Down Royal Saturday

leko99

After a few shocks yesterday will it be the same today?!?!?

Quilixios 8/13
Ballyadam 4/11
Samcro Evens
Sir Gerhard 1/4

Coneygree

Have Ballyadam and Sir Gerhard backed AP so hoping for good showings.

Samcro opened up second favourite but obviously there's big support.

Loving the support for Vinndication too.

supremenovice

I missed the 5/1 earlier this week on Vinndication. Seems to go well fresh but Cyrname should be different class.
Tout est Permis is the big bet. As I mentioned in the 'Jumpers' thread, Noel Meade is expecting a big run after seeing him work earlier this week. Delta Work probably won't be wound up for this and Presenting Percy, well Elliott is talking Grand National so no way he will want him winning this. Chris Dream is a good handicapper. The Storyteller is match fit so could be a threat but Noel Meade has won 3 of the last 6 runnings so 16/1 each way is great value.

gazza1

Cyrname 3m on left handed track.......no thanks.
I've gone for Sam Spinner
And will try Noel Kelly's Decor Irlandais in the 2.45
GL

RivetingRoger

Percy Samcro Double
3 chevely shorties plus vindication Acca

Anyone backing delta work will be disappointed
Tomorrow is not his day

Gavin "shels"

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Percy Samcro Double
3 chevely shorties plus vindication Acca

Anyone backing delta work will be disappointed
Tomorrow is not his day

Big fan of Delta but Chris's Dream tomorrow I'd say. Be interesting to see Percy after the switch.

Gavin "shels"

gazza1 wrote: »

And will try Noel Kelly's Decor Irlandais in the 2.45
GL

Great minds, he's one of my tracker horses! 8/1 looks very big.

posturingpat

How is Vinndication favourite in the Charlie hall tomorrow. I had originally planned to lay Cyrname thinking he'd be between 4/5 and 5/4 but he's 11/4 and looks to be getting bigger. Having wanted to lay him I'm now going to back him.
The price is an insult.

posturingpat

Gavin shels wrote: »

Big fan of Delta but Chris's Dream tomorrow I'd say. Be interesting to see Percy after the switch.

Going to be a cracking race. More I look at it the more it's a no bet race.

RivetingRoger

posturingpat wrote: »

How is Vinndication favourite in the Charlie hall tomorrow. I had originally planned to lay Cyrname thinking he'd be between 4/5 and 5/4 but he's 11/4 and looks to be getting bigger. Having wanted to lay him I'm now going to back him.
The price is an insult.

Left handed
3m
Soft ground

None suit Cyrname (we think)
That's why

Not saying he won't win, but that's why

Slattsy

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Great minds, he's one of my tracker horses! 8/1 looks very big.

What's he in the tracker for? What did you see!?

RivetingRoger

As Ger Loughnane famously said in 1995
Percy is going to do it
He is going to do it

Coneygree

The road to Vinndication being a player in the Gold Cup starts tomorrow It would be great if he beat that pox of a thing.

Gavin "shels"

Slattsy wrote: »

What's he in the tracker for? What did you see!?

He's been in it since 17th December 2019 when he cantered home!

Plasandrunt

Singles on Chris's Dream and Vinndication.

Reverse f/c on Samcro and Sizing Pottsie.

Should be a great days racing. Can't wait.

posturingpat

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Left handed
3m
Soft ground

None suit Cyrname (we think)
That's why

Not saying he won't win, but that's why

Is there heavy rain due? Ground looked beautiful today. Will suit him perfect. Going left handed is a possible issue as his improvement coincided with his running right handed but I suspect hell handle left handed no problem looking at this last few runs.
He's a stone clear. There is no way Vindication should be shorter. He was beaten off 159 on his last run. Definitely red for example pissed up off 156 last time and he's double figures and has won the race previously.

posturingpat

Coneygree wrote: »

The road to Vinndication being a player in the Gold Cup starts tomorrow It would be great if he beat that pox of a thing.

Starts and ends I think. How many horses that can't finish in the first 3 in a handicap off a mark in the 150's the previous year go on to be competitive in a gold cup?

Coneygree

posturingpat wrote: »

Starts and ends I think. How many horses that can't finish in the first 3 in a handicap off a mark in the 150's the previous year go on to be competitive in a gold cup?

Ah probably so. Saying that, he's gone from 50s to 33s since this morning for the Gold Cup, so I'll take that!

posturingpat

Coneygree wrote: »

Ah probably so. Saying that, he's gone from 50s to 33s since this morning for the Gold Cup, so I'll take that!

Ah In fairness if he did happen to go and win well tomorrow he'd be 14's so those with 50's and 33 be loving life then.

Kauto

posturingpat wrote: »

Starts and ends I think. How many horses that can't finish in the first 3 in a handicap off a mark in the 150's the previous year go on to be competitive in a gold cup?

He was short going into Cheltenham last March. Would have won if they got a few more bits of work into him.
The big drawback for the horse is having that useless yoke David Bass on his back. Brutal jockey.

Doctors room ghost

GO ON THE PERCY

Coneygree

posturingpat wrote: »

Ah In fairness if he did happen to go and win well tomorrow he'd be 14's so those with 50's and 33 be loving life then.

I do like Nicholl's angle of throwing Cyrname into the deep end of 3m and going left. It'll answer a lot of questions that he has about the horse and if he hacks up then he becomes a big player again.

As well as that, as much as I adore the horse, if Samcro doesn't flatter tomorrow they might actually have to try him out over 3miles finally. He had an entry to the 3miler tomorrow so you'd have to think they've at least considered it.

del roy

Vinndication is 3-3 first-time up, is progressive and looks set for a massive season

Jamie Hart, Tote racing director Vinndication would have been clear favourite for a repeat win in today’s Sodexo Gold Cup at Ascot, so the fact Kim Bailey sends him north to Wetherby suggests he carries plenty of stable confidence against a horse with question marks over the trip and suitability of a left-handed track.

KEEPER HILL would need to step up on what he’s shown previously but worth noting that he does have Prime Conditions to shoot for… Nov-Feb | fields of 13 or less | Flat-Slightly undulating tracks | trips of 3m0.5f or less = 2115F1111121 (8/12, 2p – all 8 career wins)…and he has scored in a G2 previously. His 1.3L second to Frodon at Kempton in February also reads pretty good now as well.

@7s

Battleoverdoyen @7s.

Chris's Dream/Quilixios @5s

RivetingRoger

Any fear of DR in this weather?

Coneygree

Might Bite the mad yoke is 20/1 today in the Sodexo. I thought they retired him after the XC in March?

TRANQUILLO

Is Cyrname a great price or a crazy price. 11/4 could look huge if he runs to his ability.

ON ZEE BRIDLE

Percy to win today

posturingpat

TRANQUILLO wrote: »

Is Cyrname a great price or a crazy price. 11/4 could look huge if he runs to his ability.

Huge.

supremenovice

Coneygree wrote: »

Might Bite the mad yoke is 20/1 today in the Sodexo. I thought they retired him after the XC in March?

I think Hendo is continuing to send him over X Countrys for the season, according to his stable tour

RivetingRoger

Percy
Samcro
Cyrname

All backable individually
Very tasty treble @40/1

Easy Game a terrible fav

The Mig

Cyrname 10/3 now. Has he lost a leg?

AnniePowwa

The Mig wrote: »

Cyrname 10/3 now. Has he lost a leg?

must be a certain non stayer

RivetingRoger

10/3 is mahoooossive
Its not like he is up against ABP etc

@6/1

Nibble on Commanche Red @6/1 in the 15.40

IAMAMORON

Ascot
1.55 Flaminger
3.40 Adrien De Pont
Wetherby
2.45 Next Destination
3.20 Sam Spinner
Down Royal
2.25 Delta Work - Balko De Flos ( ew )
3.00 Easy Game ( because it is )

I bent my head backwards over the chase at Down Royal. At the end of the day I think Delta Work still beats these even if not fully tuned up, he has a stone on them. I also could not ignore the juicy exchange prices on Balko Des Flos. It is a stretch but it is the only other horse that I have seen in the field that if running to its best potential could be winning this. In saying that so should Presenting Percy and it is telling how much improvement Gordon Elliot has gotten out of the Reynolds horsies since taking them on. If they were genuine about a grand national attempt they could not be running him in this surely? It will destroy his rating if he picks up a place? What a head phuck and at the prices I would rather blow a tenner on Balkos de Flos at around 33's.

IAMAMORON

I don't think Cyrname is all that good. The Brits overhyped him. He doesn't get the trip either, Ballyoptic or Sam Spinner will outstay him.

Just Saying.

1.50 DR Ex Patriot e/w at 40/1

Ballyoptic @ 7/1 and bigger in the Charlie Hall. Forget about them fancy shmancy Cheltenham GC types :pac:

It's Wetherby in late October, and he won it last year.. Get on!

Slattsy

Ballyadam is a good un. Backed for both the Ballymore and the Supreme ante post.

Initially thought there was no way he goes Supreme but after Malone Roads flop I think he will end up there so wanted to cover both races.

TRANQUILLO

awful hard days punting so far

RivetingRoger

Slattsy wrote: »

Ballyadam is a good un. Backed for both the Ballymore and the Supreme ante post.

Initially thought there was no way he goes Supreme but after Malone Roads flop I think he will end up there so wanted to cover both races.

Just press mute and pretend it's Malone Rd Sluttsy

IAMAMORON

Joke of a race.

I thought Chris's Dream was going to saunter home, jumped the last six brilliantly and looked to be cruising.

AnniePowwa

Well you can write all them off in the gold cup

Coneygree

Percy for the GN, was giving them fences some air.

IAMAMORON

Coneygree wrote: »

Percy for the GN, was giving them fences some air.

He will be given top weight. He is rated 165.

piplip87

Well lads Samcro and Wholestone to save the day. Thi gs are not going too great today but jaysus it's great to have graded jumps Saturdays back.

AnniePowwa

Coneygree wrote: »

Percy for the GN, was giving them fences some air.

Doesn't even stay 3m well let alone 4, his win at Cheltenham must be the biggest fluke of all time, just shows how little novice for means

RivetingRoger

Ye are very harsh lads!!

Great race. A joy to watch.

Percy did well, delta did what delta does, Chris Dream did well. Pipe opener for the big boys, The biggest day for Storyteller

Very enjoyable. Happy with Percy


Love the jumps

RivetingRoger

AnniePowwa wrote: »

Doesn't even stay 3m well let alone 4, his win at Cheltenham must be the biggest fluke of all time, just shows how little novice for means

Which one, you cabbage