Shooting incident in Kanturk, Co. Cork (Mod note in op)

ACitizenErased

3 dead - Gardai ERU flown in from Dublin by the army according to reports.
https://twitter.com/mickthehack/status/1320750935296135170?s=20

https://twitter.com/RCarrollTV/status/1320752168421437440?s=20



Mod note - This is a tragic event and details will not become clear for a number of days. Can we all exercise a bit of cop on and avoid unnecessary speculation and rumors, particularly from anyone who may or may not have 'local knowledge'. Thanks


Second Mod note - OK I see we're getting clever about speculation
It's now being dressed up as "I read in the papers..." with no link provided, or "I'm not speculating but..." then a very oddly specific hypothetical example is given. Let me be clear - any more speculating and this thread will be closed

ShamoBuc

Awful situation.

Such a horrible loss of life.

All over a will and a farm.

The mind boggles.

ACitizenErased

https://twitter.com/RCarrollTV/status/1320752168421437440?s=20

Chalk McHugh

Father and two sons dead. Horrific news.

Tipperary animal lover

Media blackout now lifted. Three dead following shooting incident outside Kanturk, Co Cork. @gardainfo briefing later today.

ACitizenErased

Row over a will according to Sinead Ryan from the Independent.

knucklehead6

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Awful situation.

Such a horrible loss of life.

All over a will and a farm.

The mind boggles.

Could be anything, not necessarily a will and land.

Second post saying the same thing, editing for clarity

TheQuietBeatle

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Awful situation.

Such a horrible loss of life.

All over a will and a farm.

The mind boggles.

Was that gossip from the area or confirmed?

mikeecho

knucklehead6 wrote: »

Could be anything, not necessarily a will and land.

But it was over the will

sallysue2

Such an awful tradegy. Poor wife/mother having to witness all this.

ChikiChiki

Very bleak news. Hard to believe a will alone could drive such a horrific situation.

Spanish Eyes

Ah Jaysus, that's awful stuff. RIP

I'm sure the story will emerge.

leahyl

This is just so, so sad. RIP to all 3. I’m at a loss for words.

whisky_galore

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Awful situation.

Such a horrible loss of life.

All over a will and a farm.

The mind boggles.

Thank be to Jesus these are rare and we don't have a gun fetish like one country in particular.
The stricter our gun laws, the better.

Gatling

whisky_galore wrote: »

Thank be to Jesus these are rare and we don't have a gun fetish like one country in particular.
The stricter our gun laws, the better.

I'd imagine there will be a call for more stringent gun controls after this ,not that it would make any kind of difference here

tayto lover

I’ve seen people flip before over land.
The Field stuff is still quite common,

Cork Lass

Absolutely awful - my heart goes out to that poor woman.

byhookorbycrook

Father and 2 sons .

Akesh

whisky_galore wrote: »

Thank be to Jesus these are rare and we don't have a gun fetish like one country in particular.
The stricter our gun laws, the better.

Nonsense. Our gun laws are amongst the strictest in the world.

Very easy to obtain a firearm in this country illegally. Adding additional rules won't protect anyone.

Spanish Eyes

The report in the IT states that Gardai were aware that there were three licensed guns on the premises.

Anyway it's a total tragedy and that's the truth.

Incel In The Membrane

Gatling wrote: »

I'd imagine there will be a call for more stringent gun controls after this ,not that it would make any kind of difference here

Don't think we can make our gun laws any stricter.

Rip to those who died.

Santy2015

Yeah terrible news, Town is in shock here.
ERU were flown in by The Air Corp as situation was fluid at the time. Also Search and rescue helicopter arrived with emergency doctors and equipment.
Supposedly over a will. Not sure who the instigator of the shooting was just yet

statesaver

What ages are the deceased ?

anewme

Gardaí not looking for anyone else on connection with the incident. RIP

frozenfrozen

very sad, good to see from the report a woman made it to neighbours so at least it wasn't any worse than it is

Santy2015

statesaver wrote: »

What ages are the deceased ?

Both sons in 20’s father in late 50’s

Spanish Eyes

statesaver wrote: »

What ages are the deceased ?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/three-men-have-died-after-a-shooting-incident-at-cork-farm-39668325.html

Stheno

Santy2015 wrote: »

Both sons in 20’s father in late 50’s

Thats an awful loss of life

The wife/mother will be traumatised for life poor woman

Man with broke phone

Santy2015 wrote: »

Yeah terrible news, Town is in shock here.
ERU were flown in by The Air Corp as situation was fluid at the time. Also Search and rescue helicopter arrived with emergency doctors and equipment.
Supposedly over a will. Not sure who the instigator of the shooting was just yet

Id say there is a bit more to it. 2 lads in their 20s shouldnt really be losing the run of themselves over their 50 year old fathers wishes after he dies. With the mother still alive as well. Who knows, horrible tragedy either way.

byhookorbycrook

Family dispute , but I’m not going to post much more about it . The poor mother .

May they Rest In Peace.

Spanish Eyes

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Family dispute , but I’m not going to post much more about it . The poor mother .

Speculation is futile. I'd say many from that neck of the woods have an idea what this was all about anyway.

The poor mother/wife (as I think she is). God love her.

Santy2015

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Id say there is a bit more to it. 2 lads in their 20s shouldnt really be losing the run of themselves over their 50 year old fathers wishes after he dies. With the mother still alive as well. Who knows, horrible tragedy either way.

Yeah look impossible to know, it’s just sad regardless.

ThewhiteJesus

Awful tragic news and so unnecessary no matter the argument. The poor mother I can’t even imagine what she’s going through probably getting grilled by gardai

Sam Hain

Terrible news and a terrible thread title. Sounds like a play or a blues song.

Sardonicat

Truly horrific. That poor woman.

Spanish Eyes

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

Awful tragic news and so unnecessary no matter the argument. The poor mother I can’t even imagine what she’s going through probably getting grilled by gardai

I'd say they would be a bit more sensitive than that for a few days anyway. Offering support more like.

ThewhiteJesus

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

she’s going through probably getting grilled by gardai

Probably being treated extremely well by the gardai

ThewhiteJesus

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I'd say they would be a bit more sensitive than that for a few days anyway. Offering support more like.

I do hope so

statesaver

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

Awful tragic news and so unnecessary no matter the argument. The poor mother I can’t even imagine what she’s going through probably getting grilled by gardai

' grilled ' ?
I think the Gardai are more professional than you gave them credit for.

Happy4all

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

Awful tragic news and so unnecessary no matter the argument. The poor mother I can’t even imagine what she’s going through probably getting grilled by gardai

Awful thing to say

Trouser Snake

Rip to all the victims. Makes you appreciate the more all you've got when these things happen. Small town in the country, you'd say how could it happen.

Spanish Eyes

bubblypop wrote: »

Probably being treated extremely well by the gardai

I have no doubt that the Gardai have protocol in such incidents and defer the difficult issues until the witness etc. is in a position to co-operate. God love that poor woman. May they all RIP.

Must be traumatic for the local community also. Horrible thing to happen.

Mr.burgess

When it comes to a will you will be surprised how **** some in your family can be all they care about is money

Roots 2020

Awful tragedy.

I'm from a farming background and unfortunately in my locality I'd know of 3 or 4 situations where similar is bubbling under the surface. It takes very little to ignite.

I don't know, this desire for land seems to go back to penal times, the tithe war of the 1830s, the great famine, land war and so on.

JP Liz V1

sallysue2 wrote: »

Such an awful tradegy. Poor wife/mother having to witness all this.

God love her

RIP

Man with broke phone

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Id say there is a bit more to it. 2 lads in their 20s shouldnt really be losing the run of themselves over their 50 year old fathers wishes after he dies. With the mother still alive as well. Who knows, horrible tragedy either way.

Seems the Dad was 59 and the mother in her 60s and in ill health recently. With the pandemic, many people in the upper age groups are sorting out Wills. But I have no idea if this was the case in this awfully sad event. RIP and heaven help the poor mother.

byhookorbycrook

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Speculation is futile. I'd say many from that neck of the woods have an idea what this was all about anyway.

The poor mother/wife (as I think she is). God love her.

I’m not speculating, grew up a few miles away . But let the facts come out to the wider public first .

sallysue2

I have 2 sons, who are still babies but couldn't imagine this happening to us. A lot of my family are farmers and I've seen so many families torn apart by land and not speaking for years. This really is so desperately sad

BorneTobyWilde

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Row over a will according to Sinead Ryan from the Independent.

Paper ink.


Do we know that for sure.


After incidents like this people love to give a reason.

Santy2015

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Paper ink.


Do we know that for sure.


After incidents like this people love to give a reason.

Seems to be the case I’m afraid