No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

straight

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Fncking hell!

Maybe the chitchat is not the best thread, but 3 dead over a 150ac farm:

https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2020/1026/1173965-cork-shooting/


Very sad for all involved.

Who said it was over a farm? Serious question. Very sad anyway

Reggie.

straight wrote: »

Who said it was over a farm? Serious question. Very sad anyway

It was mentioned in an article

wrangler

straight wrote: »

Who said it was over a farm? Serious question. Very sad anyway

It says so here

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/three-relatives-dead-after-apparent-murder-suicide-in-kanturk-co-cork-1.4391568?mode=amp

funkey_monkey

zetecescort wrote: »

I think somebody mentioned it a few days ago but Tricked out Tractors on BBC 1 Northern Ireland at 7:35

Forgot all about it until I walked in. Looked like the usual pure scutter - probably made by the same crowd that done Theres no place like Tyrone.

_Brian

straight wrote: »

Who said it was over a farm? Serious question. Very sad anyway

News said a “dispute over land”

zetecescort

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Forgot all about it until I walked in. Looked like the usual pure scutter - probably made by the same crowd that done Theres no place like Tyrone.

half hour not enough. all talk of doubling the horsepower at the start yet no mention of if they did it. all they showed was cosmetic work really

Birdnuts

NcdJd wrote: »

Always amazes me when lads fill in part of a ditch around a field not thinking of the consequences of said action and then complain when it is waterlogged at this time of the year.

Standing in a field in muck waiting for individual to arrive with jcb to undo what he done earlier in year.

Alot of the flooding and water quality issues in the country are down to an entrenched ignorance of basic hydrology - again state/semi-state agencies like the OPW,ESB, BNM are some of the biggest culprits!!

Lime Tree Farm

So very sad.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40071098.html

gozunda

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

So very sad.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40071098.html

Heard the helicopters go over this morning in response to that. I was wondering what was up.

Peace be with the rest of the family ...

_Brian

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

So very sad.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40071098.html

God bless that poor mother/wife.
It’s an horrendous end to a family.

Bleating Lamb

Deleted User wrote: »

Mid - end Feb is a good time to make decisions about land, it get's August notions out of lads heads

One ‘smart alec’ fella bought a farm of land near here around 30 years ago,was good road frontage on it......purchaser was from a farming background so knew when land would look well etc....part of farm ran beside a river,he advertised a site beside the river in June....a ‘townie’ person bought it a month later....built house on it and has being plagued ever since as the river floods its banks a few times each Winter.
Eventually the house owner had to bring in tonnes of soil and basically build a wall to defend the house and at times water has being within inches of going into the house.
The ‘smart alec’ landowner sold around 6 more sites over the years after that in safe places to build.
Myself and majority of neighbours always thought it was an awful act to sell a ‘site’ like that to someone who would not be used to flooding or farms.

Lime Tree Farm

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

One ‘smart alec’ fella bought a farm of land near here around 30 years ago,was good road frontage on it......purchaser was from a farming background so knew when land would look well etc....part of farm ran beside a river,he advertised a site beside the river in June....a ‘townie’ person bought it a month later....built house on it and has being plagued ever since as the river floods its banks a few times each Winter.
Eventually the house owner had to bring in tonnes of soil and basically build a wall to defend the house and at times water has being within inches of going into the house.
The ‘smart alec’ landowner sold around 6 more sites over the years after that in safe places to build.
Myself and majority of neighbours always thought it was an awful act to sell a ‘site’ like that to someone who would not be used to flooding or farms.

Saw that happen twice in our locality, different sellers. Fortunately, the purchasers were slow in filing their planning applications, slow enough for the flood waters to rise and they to back pedal out of the agreement.

Nekarsulm

Mean act all right, selling to someone without local knowledge of flooding.
Mind you, very rarely a site is sold without either planning in place, or "subject" to planning being granted.
So there is usually an intermediate layer of "experts" between the seller and purchaser.
Either the Architect or Planner should be able to look at a field and say, "hang on a minute, what happens here when it rains a lot?"

patsy_mccabe

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

One ‘smart alec’ fella bought a farm of land near here around 30 years ago,was good road frontage on it......purchaser was from a farming background so knew when land would look well etc....part of farm ran beside a river,he advertised a site beside the river in June....a ‘townie’ person bought it a month later....built house on it and has being plagued ever since as the river floods its banks a few times each Winter.
Eventually the house owner had to bring in tonnes of soil and basically build a wall to defend the house and at times water has being within inches of going into the house.
The ‘smart alec’ landowner sold around 6 more sites over the years after that in safe places to build.
Myself and majority of neighbours always thought it was an awful act to sell a ‘site’ like that to someone who would not be used to flooding or farms.

I starting working in a place once and a guy there had just put down a deposit on a site not far from our place. I could hear him telling the other guys in the office about how dry it was, cattle still out in it in the middle of Dec etc.

Eventually he came and told me about it and I asked where was it exactly. It was lowing lying corcas land between two hills. The whole road was built on and this was the only site left. I told him we had land nearby and no way in hell, I would build on it. I told him how high the water table was there and he would have trouble with septic tanks etc. I told him to go talk to someone already living there and see for himself.
As it happened, he knew someone living there and they told him how the picture frames moved on the wall, when a lorry drove down the road and the septic tank was constant trouble.
He went straight to the auctioneer and he gave back the deposit, no bother. There's another house on it now.
if the banks of the shannon burst, the whole place would be under water. There's about 15 houses in the area.

Nekarsulm

A guy near us in Cavan here bought a site and applied for planning.
On low lying ground near a bend in a river.
Cavan County Council refused planning twice, on account of water table, etc.
Somehow, he got planning on the 3rd attempt ( speculation remains on how he managed it).
Started building, and was up to the wall plate when there was a months wet weather.
Flood came up, and rose to just touch the bottom edge of thewindow cills.
When it went down, instead of saying "OK, this is my new sub-floor level" he finished the house and moved in.
Been flooded out at least twice since...

ganmo

schadenfreude

Panch18

Nekarsulm wrote: »

A guy near us in Cavan here bought a site and applied for planning.
On low lying ground near a bend in a river.
Cavan County Council refused planning twice, on account of water table, etc.
Somehow, he got planning on the 3rd attempt ( speculation remains on how he managed it).
Started building, and was up to the wall plate when there was a months wet weather.
Flood came up, and rose to just touch the bottom edge of thewindow cills.
When it went down, instead of saying "OK, this is my new sub-floor level" he finished the house and moved in.
Been flooded out at least twice since...

There's no accounting for stupidity - and it should never be underestimated how stupid people can be

Birdnuts

Nekarsulm wrote: »

A guy near us in Cavan here bought a site and applied for planning.
On low lying ground near a bend in a river.
Cavan County Council refused planning twice, on account of water table, etc.
Somehow, he got planning on the 3rd attempt ( speculation remains on how he managed it).
Started building, and was up to the wall plate when there was a months wet weather.
Flood came up, and rose to just touch the bottom edge of thewindow cills.
When it went down, instead of saying "OK, this is my new sub-floor level" he finished the house and moved in.
Been flooded out at least twice since...

Doesn't surprise me really given the record of CC's in this area over the years - just the other day a relative was telling me about a site on the edge of Naas that got rezoned a couple of years ago despite having several streams and springs that regularly flood on one side of it. Currently planning for 200 houses and a SC on it. Its highly likely that development on the site will also significantly increase flooding downstream into the town itself according to a hydrologists that worried locals have employed to look at the issue. Until senior planners, country managers, ABP etc are held personally liable for such reckless behaviour we will continue to have such issues in this country - not to mention the vast amount of tax payers money that has to be shelled out to fix such messes when the inevitable happens in terms of flood damage, fixes etc.

Nekarsulm

Birdnuts wrote: »

Currently planning for 200 houses and a SC on it.tc.

Councils see about as far as the Developers Contribution.....

Birdnuts

Christmas Radio has just checked into my Sky Box - the fact that I'm a big Slade fan helps gets me threw these coming weeks in Shops and that:pac:

NcdJd

Birdnuts wrote: »

Christmas Radio has just checked into my Sky Box - the fact that I'm a big Slade fan helps gets me threw these coming weeks in Shops and that:pac:

Not having to listen to Christmas FM in work, the only good thing about 2020 for me ha.

whelan2

NcdJd wrote: »

Not having to listen to Christmas FM in work, the only good thing about 2020 for me ha.

Are you a grinch?

NcdJd

whelan2 wrote: »

Are you a grinch?

I'm a grinch in public but..






I secretly look forward to the cheazy Christmas TV but don't tell anyone.

NcdJd

NcdJd wrote: »

Not having to listen to Christmas FM in work, the only good thing about 2020 for me ha.

2020 better not deprive me of THE Christmas film




Die Hard!

NcdJd

[Deleted User] wrote: »

2020 better not deprive me of THE Christmas film




Die Hard!

Groundhog day would be a good one for this year !

ganmo

NcdJd wrote: »

Groundhog day would be a good one for this year !

Oh how I'd love if they put in on a few days in a row

Say my name

ganmo wrote: »

Oh how I'd love if they put in on a few days in a row

It'd be like Atlantic 252 in the mornings.

NcdJd

Looks like poor Punxsutawney Phil's days are numbered if Peta get their way..

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/28/us/peta-punxsutawney-phil-ai-groundhog-trnd/index.html

Say my name

NcdJd wrote: »

Looks like poor Punxsutawney Phil's days are numbered if Peta get their way..

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/28/us/peta-punxsutawney-phil-ai-groundhog-trnd/index.html

I wouldn't blame Peta.

It's tough getting dragged out of your hole. :pac:

There must be an Irish author of that piece..

Water John

Ah the joy killers. We would never had the film, Groundhog Day.