Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

yoke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120911111#Comment_120911111

You’ve probably already seen this in the other thread, but I’ll answer here anyway too 🙂 it’s a model S P85 from 2014.

The model S P85 seems like a pretty solid car, with lots of boot space, and my plan is to convince the wife to take it from me next year, after I prove to her that it can go pretty much anywhere in Ireland (with the help of the supercharger network of course 😂), and then I’ll look for a “cheap” M3P at the time for myself..

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120921783#Comment_120921783

Yes I seen it after I posted. Great cars. I also had a P85+. Great fun 🏎️

yoke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922213#Comment_120922213

Lovely looking aren’t they 😀

September1

I hope Tesla would enable Android Auto, because navigation is atrocious. When driving longer distances on motorways it would make massive mistakes in estimated SoC, I saw it estimating that driving RWD 270km on motorways will only use 31% (actual 68%) and 182km 72% (actual 51%) - both situations on single day.

slave1

That's the first time I've even seen anything like the discrepancies you have experienced, I'm using Tesla Nav years now and it's always within a percent or two, amazingly accurate given it takes traffic, weather, elevation and temps into account.

I would log that with Tesla as something does not appear right

josip

Also within a couple of percent in my experience, including long motorway runs.

I like how at the end of the trip it will also explain the reason for any discrepancy.

mfceiling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120925296#Comment_120925296

I had a mad one just once with it.

I had it in the actual graph for a trip and it said I would arrive on something like 63%. I instantly knew this couldn't be true as I had something like 40 miles to travel and I was on 66%!!.

Tried ending the navigation and starting it again but it kept showing those figures.

That was the only time it ever did that. Every other time it has been accurate to within a percent or 2.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120924926#Comment_120924926

Are you sure you were not looking at the return figure?

If there’s one thing about the Tesla nav, it’s that the SOC at destination is 99.9999% accurate.

September1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120926875#Comment_120926875

Yes, I'm sure about it. I had mostly positive results until this one time, as in either usage was as planned or there has been some major deviation in conditions such as traffic jam, heavy rainfall etc even then I never got such degrees of under or over estimation.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120926653#Comment_120926653

I did try to do two button reset during second of miscalculated trips but it came back with same number.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120925296#Comment_120925296

I think I will do it, I presume they can look into remote logs etc? I did not take any screenshots....

rob w

Starting to get a little disheartened with my M3 LR I picked up at end of May. Have only a little over 4000km on it now, but have just booked my 3rd service appointment! 😒

Appt #1 - Damage found on the underside of the rocker cover along the side of the car after collection, occurred during transport. That's fine, these things happen. Booked in an appointment in Sandyford. While waiting for that service, started to get a creaking noise in the drivers seat - added that to the service to get looked at. They repaired the rocker cover no questions asked, tried to repair the creaking seat but couldn't do anything to sort it. They told me to book a mobile service to get it replaced (I live 150km away from SC)

Appt #2 - Booked a second appointment as a mobile service to get the seat replaced. Only to be told that it couldn't be done mobile and I would need to travel back up to Sandyford to get it replaced. Also reported an issue with my connectivity, which disconnects for a few minutes while driving along (can happen multiple times on a long trip), even in areas where my phone signal remains - so I lose maps, Spotify stops - they diagnosed this remotely and was told this was a common issue and a software update will fix in time (8 -10 weeks). Paying €10 a month for this service, that they know is not working properly. While waiting for this service appointment, I started to get a rattle coming from front dash somewhere and added that to the appointment. They replaced the drivers seat, creaking noise gone straight away - all good! They didn't have time to look at the rattle so told me to book in a 3rd service appointment to get it diagnosed

Appt #3 - Booked in a mobile service for the rattle, but a 5 week wait to get an appointment. After I booked it in and only 400km or so driving in the new seat, I'm getting the exact same issue I had with the seat they replaced (Its a creak in the area behind my left shoulder blade, makes a noise when going over a bump, accelerating/braking, moving in the seat. I cant replicate the noise in the passenger seat, its solid). I'm now also starting to get rattles coming from the back seat area, 2 distinctly different noises - hard to tell where they are coming from (maybe the seat belt tensioners and the seats, but not sure). Hopefully they can locate and fix these noises on the mobile service - but I reckon I'm going to have to travel back to the SC for a 4th appointment for the seat again.

It all very disheartening, I was really looking forward to getting into this car and its the first brand new car I've ever bought. I just hope they can sort these issues out, otherwise I'm starting to wonder if I should cut my losses and get rid! I've driven much older, much cheaper cars that didn't rattle and make noise like this after years of driving! I read something the other day on a thread where someone said something along the lines of the M3 being a 'cheap car sitting on an expensive battery' and I'm starting to understand that now I think!

wassie

I've had 2 cameras replaced, track rods replaced, boot lid & motor repaired and bumper resprayed all under warranty. Mine is the last of the Fremont M3s so not unexpected.

But once the repairs were assessed, there was never any argument. Tesla SC just got it done. Time to get parts can be frustrating, but much better service than any ICE car warranty work I've had done in the past.

DrPsychia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120929424#Comment_120929424

Teslas build quality can be hit or miss even with MiC models. I know someone who had few faulty cameras on a 2023 MiC MY replaced, also issues with loud rattles. Not sure if all their woes are fixed yet though. But then you have people who have very few issues if any. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be with a brand new car.

It's stories like this that make me question whether is should buy a M3 even though I've been longing to own one for so long. Whenever I find one I will definitely need to take it for a thorough drive on a variety of roads, pronounced rattles would really annoy me.

rob w

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120929500#Comment_120929500

Yeah, I wouldn't mind that kind of thing so much.

When its a very definite part that doesnt work or is obviously damaged and it just gets replaced, that's not so bad - and yeah the SC have been good in that respect, replacing rocker cover and seat quickly and easily.

It's the interior rattles/noises that are just starting so early in ownership of the car. Much harder to find, let alone fix!

rob w

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120929761#Comment_120929761

Yeah, can be extremely frustrating. My wife looks at me like like I'm losing it when I drive around trying to listen and locate the rattles in the car. They just shouldn't be there after such low mileage!

wassie

I notice I'm much more sensitive noises/rattles in the car primarily as it much quieter. Im sure my previous ICE cars made as much noise, just that the engine and components masked them.

wotzgoingon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120932605#Comment_120932605

It's normal to get noises in cars. You would even get them in super cars. That fellas off the head bringing it up with Tesla over every little creak he hears.

rob w

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120932649#Comment_120932649

Its easily trivialised like that if you don't see any issues with your own car!

Its hardly every little noise I have brought up with Tesla. The issue with the seat was acknowledged by them as a manufacturing defect and replaced. It creaked like an old floorboard, I'm not sure why you think I would accept that and just carry on driving around with that issue on any car - I'm not sure anybody would!

The other noises I've mentioned are likely due to something loose in the car - again I don't know why you would think that's ok to accept poor manufacturing quality on a brand new product - there is people on here with all sorts of issues with poor manufacturing - a quick google will show you reams of pages and videos of peoples new M3s rattling inside. I've driven many different cars for a long time and these don't fall into the category of normal acceptable car noises, particularly after only a couple of '000kms.

innrain

I was in Sandyford yesterday and they've replaced a TMPS sensor for my 211 M3LR they also noticed the charging door a bit askew and they ordered a new one. Frustrating that it takes 4-5 weeks to get the part then get it done. More frustrated as some member of my family wanted to move a pillar in the carpark yesterday USS and all

Who does body repair for Tesla? I see Ace in Fairview but I believe there was another one

AndyBoBandy

Ashmore Ryder seem highly recommended…

Ace have been known to take the cars for joyrides….

innrain

Last weekend it was the first time when we did a longish trip in convoy with he 211M3LR on 18"and 231MYSR on 19" so I saved the trip logs maybe would help some decide. We were 9 people 5 in MY and 4 in M3 both full with luggage. On the motorway where possible autopilot on the speed limit +2, AC 21-22

Trip 1 Dublin - Killarney through Adare.

M3 reports 334km used 56kWh average consumption 16.8 kWh/100km

MY reports 332 km used 58kWh average consumption 17.5 kWh/100km

Trip 2 Ring of Kerry.

M3 reports 183 km used 25kWh

MY reports 182km used 24 kWh

Trip 3 Killarney - Dublin through Mallow

M3 reports 326 km used 47 kWh

MY reports 323 km used 50kWh

Overall:

M3 843 km used 128kWh average consumption 15.2kWh/100km

MY 837 km used 132 kWh average consumption 15.7 kWh/100km

Very impressive results from the MY considering the size and all. It was actually more efficent than M3 on the Ring drive probably due to more recuperation.

slave1

Less difference than the 10% often mooted, good going on the Y considering on 19s and heavier car.

That 10% is on direct battery size comparative though.....

DrPsychia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120933988#Comment_120933988

Tar and Feathers would be my punishment of choice😧

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120934101#Comment_120934101

That's pretty incredible considering the difference in size/space. Anyone have any guesstimates how much less efficient a MYLR would be for the same trip?

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120937906#Comment_120937906

Can't say for that trip. Our long term average, of which half would be 120kph, is 17 kWh/100km.

On the motorway at 120, we're getting 18.7-19 kWh/100km depending on conditions

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120934101#Comment_120934101

Great comparison.

It’s worth noting that the MY efficiency is good but the LR would have travelled further without stopping if required.

innrain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120938041#Comment_120938041

Absolutely. In the first run MY used 100% of its battery while M3 only 75%. I think M3 would have reached Kenmare without charging. Having said that we had to stop for the kids and charged anyway. I had to move both cars from the chargers before the kids were done. Also comparing the two trips Dublin - Killarney shows the effect the speed has on consumption. The route through Mallow is slower, with more 80km/h roads and with less motorway but >10% more efficient.

silver_sky

FFS... had to order touch up pens for the wheels. It wasn't me... 🤬

I ordered from greendrive as it seems none of the amazon sellers have stock. Reviews of the paint on greendrive seems good.

mfceiling

I know someone here recently posted about the cars navigation not being accurate with the percentage of battery left at the end of a journey.

This was mine yesterday. I'd left birdhill and had done around 60kms so the car "should" have worked out my consumption. Based on the figures I was going to do 114kms on 19% battery (mostly motorway), giving me an overall range of approximately 570 Kms!!

Not a hope. I ended up getting home with 26%.

Redfox25

Thats odd alright, I have found it to be very accurate on any drives I have done, long or short distances.

Maybe raise a ticket and ask the Tesla service team to review your logs.

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949218#Comment_120949218

Mine threw a wobbly recently also, but is generally +/- 1%. It got a bit confused (Approx 13% optimistic) in rural north west co Cork.😊

I had a grave calculation problem like that driving from the new Caen, F SuC last month where the car estimated that we had over 30% left where in reality we didn't even have enough to reach the destination Apart from that calculations have been always been accurate within a few percent. They are based on the fleet data so there appears to be a problem with the data for some sections of roads.