Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

silver_sky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120675925#Comment_120675925

That's the front end only excluding any paint correction and ceramic coating and other extras I got.

I had paint correction, PPF on the below areas (+load lip on boot), ceramic coating all over, coating on all glass/wheels/interior. Obviously this isn't a Model 3 but it's just a representative picture of the coverage from Flawless.

silver_sky

Bit of an evening sun shot. Paint was good from factory (aside from some minor chip Tesla had fixed). Now it looks even better.

MojoMaker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120676160#Comment_120676160

That's not something Flawless detailing made clear in their ads then so. So just film on the front of the car for 1800? Jesus.

The ceramic coating is advertised as being cheaper and less durable btw, or should I say PPF is being positioned as the higher grade option designed to last longer etc.

Did the market just take a huge jump upwards?

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120677884#Comment_120677884

I thought he made it pretty clear what you get for what price. What ad did you see? He’s posted specific details in the Facebook groups too.

Ceramic Coating is not a paint protection, it’s a gloss enhancement, hydrophobic layer that makes maintenance cleaning easier.

silver_sky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120677884#Comment_120677884

PPF & ceramic coating do different things.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120678099#Comment_120678099

Keep it nice for the next guy 👌

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120678575#Comment_120678575

Ceramic coating makes my washing easier. I’m not info PPF.

I would tend to wash weekly both daily cars and anyone on the road at that time. It’s my de-stress mechanism.

But I do have a full plumbed in wash set up in my side entrance so quite easy to pull up and be washing within 60 seconds.

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120678781#Comment_120678781

I have same at side of house with great water pressure, standard hose nozzle. No ceramic coating, but keep car waxed with Collinite 845 regularly (Easy job). I find that if you give the car a quick hose down immediately after returning from a wet road trip that most of the dirt falls straight off, leaving the car reasonably presentable when dry again.

Might have a hose ban soon enough though...

Gumbo

Good example of how PPF can help. From today in the Facebook group

MichaelDublin

Hi,

I've a deposit on my first Tesla - a red RWD Model 3 (my first Tesla) - it looks like I'm able to pick up in the next few days.

I'm wondering if you guys have and advice on whether to proceed or wait for the refresh and/or if you've any idea in reality, how long we'll be waiting to see the new version in Ireland?

Pros with proceeding - the €5k versus €3.5k SEAI Grant, I get it quick, presumably teething problems well sorted out in old model coming from China & at end of build cycle)

Cons with proceeding now (New model imminent with presumably a refresh inside and out and possibly even battery improvement). Resale value unknowns

I guess I'd proceed if I was certain the resale value was bullet-proof but it's a red one and I've heard that the fancy paint money just vanishes the moment you drive off in it. I'm also fearful that if the refresh comes in cheaper or if it's a huge jump forward that I lose 10 grand because I'm impatient!! Advise very welcome! Thanks

AndyBoBandy

Get it now. ASAP

you will not regret such a decision.

silver_sky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120679224#Comment_120679224

Refresh is all just rumours and speculation at this time. Resale value is unknown either way. 🤣

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120679409#Comment_120679409

There's rumours. Then there's actual pictures of which their are many of a facelifted body model 3. It will be refreshed and they are discounted vehicles ahead of this to shift the stock they have built.ļ

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120679521#Comment_120679521

There’s pictures of the Roadster & CyberTruck too but their still not available yet…

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120679595#Comment_120679595

I think everyone can agree those show boat vehicles are a completely different kettle of fish and nothing to measure their staple catalogue against. Tbf

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120679224#Comment_120679224

€3710 is a lot for the red paint, but great car and you wont regret it, as others have said..

MichaelDublin

Yeah, it was the only one left in my budget in inventory so feck it!

Redfox25

Can someone throw an eye over these figures, we did a good bit of touring at the weekend,

836 km, 123kwh used with an average consumption of 147Wh/km

Back of a napkin maths, this set me back circa 60 euro for charging. (leaving with 100%, then2 fast stops at SC in Tesla Belfast and 1 very slow 50kwh charge at ESB charger).

Does this look about right to more experienced drivers?

A family member is a real diesel head and reckons his car would do it cheaper. Its a 40mpg at best, so I can't make the figures add up on that one.

He would win on refuelling, the two SC stops were super fast, the ESB 50kwh charge was painful, single unit which was in use a few times I went past it. Where I was was very barren for charging, lots of 22kw units but few faster ones.

kanuseeme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120680638#Comment_120680638

I worked it out @ 88 euro for the 836 @ 40 mpg, I put diesel at 1.50 euro, if he can get 60 mpg then its slightly cheaper @ 59 euro, probably stopping fewer times.

Redfox25

Cheers, that's what I was getting too.

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120672314#Comment_120672314

30k km on the clock so far. Yes I feel the same about the price drops etc vs the balloon payment. My balloon is 26k and its now like 12k on new PCP agreements based on the new price.

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120680638#Comment_120680638

A family member is a real diesel head and reckons his car would do it cheaper.

Ask him what he pays every other week when your charging your car at home.

slave1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120680638#Comment_120680638

EV is maxed on savings in the following order

PV only, lots of folks on the Renewables forum are 100% off grid since end of April, (ignoring Capital costs) free fuel, I charged once off the grid since Mid April

Home Charging at lowest market night rate, no Smart Meter and cheapest, I'm currently paying 7.9c night rate (rate no longer available to new sign ups)

Home Charging at lowest market rate 24/7, I never charge from the grid at home during the day

Also should thrown in free working charging...I've never had it

The most expensive way to fuel an EV is public charging, should only do this when unavoidable.

In your case you left with 100% which is perfect, then just take on the chin the uber expensive public charging costs but as Wassie said, balance that cost versus your total cost of fuelling

wassie

My app (iOS) started exhibiting some weird behavior over the weekend. I lost the service menu option completely. But in the climate section it was showing heating control for rear seats (I've never had this option as it was base SR+).

Went to test it out, but at that point app was completely unresponsive to the point I had to reinstall the app. Everything went back to normal - boo!

josip

I don't think it's valid to ignore the capital costs of home PV and I suspect that for most people a D/N meter rate works out the most cost effective.

The €10,000 cost of home panels would purchase 100,000 kWh at a 10c night rate which is almost 600,000km/20 years of driving.

Unless there's something off with my numbers/sums, then it would not make financial sense (for us) to buy PV.

sk8board

2 family members have PV panels and neither use it for the EVs - simply because the cars are commuting every day and only charging at night. The panels feed the house during daylight hours. Indeed both houses are completely empty Mon-Fri 8-6pm, so they have household appliances on timers.

as an aside, I also dislike the repayment model for PV panels, because it ignores the opportunity cost of investing that €6-8k rather than spending it on panels.

the reality is that after 15years, the panels have probably paid the €8k back, but even a safe global index fund would be close to 100% more after 15years.

it’s a tangent, sorry - but the panel financial argument is very narrow one, unless you use a lot of electricity during the daytime.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120681784#Comment_120681784

Your average night rate is closer to 20c than 10c at the moment so you would purchase 50,000kWh, which is about 300,000kms or 10 years.

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120681784#Comment_120681784

I feel car pv charging is like the icing on the cake. Great if you can get some, has been excellent lately.

More important is the loads of hot water and big reduction in expensive daily electricity rates.

Also adds value to your property, a bit like that patio out the back. I also get pleasure from the pv system…😋

kanuseeme

I just worked out my own phev for 836 km, based on last months electricity used, mix of night and day rates @ 20cents and 40 cents which works out at .28 cents and average consumption of 1.6 l/100km and 16 kw/100km, over 7000 km, total was 56.70 euro.

In reality I probably would have spend 91 euro on fuel, but at the end of the year, its the average consumption is what the real cost is.

Petrol @ 1.55 euro

AndyBoBandy

Yeah its the PV for me all day long too.....

I'm lucky in that the car is on the driveway all day during the week, so can easily avail of solar excess..

My system cost €8,800 17 months ago, and do date has generated 5,924kWh of which I've used 5,384kWh, with my day rate being in or around €0.42/kWh that means I've saved myself around €2,261 of electricity (the price per kWh hasn't been exactly that for the full 17 months, but for most of them...). I've also earned €366.03 to date from deemed export, so in 17 months I've clawed back €2,627 of my initial outlay of €8,800.

Assuming electricity rates don't massively decrease over the next 2-3 years (and I can squeeze another year or 2 out of deemed export), The system will have paid for itself in another 3yrs & 4 months, giving a total payback period of just over 4.6 years..

I don't care where the electricity goes, as long as I use it, so it going into the car is just a bonus.. and yes technically I did pre-pay for this back in Oct 2021 when the pv was installed, but so what, that's expenditure that's long since flowed under the bridge... what matters is now and the fact I haven't had to charge the car from the grid since April 5th.. It's currently sat on the driveway at 90%..

Before PV I had to run the gas boiler in 'water' mode for 30 minutes a day during the summer.. now I don't.. always have a half tank of piping hot water... so I'm not even counting the gas savings being made (as well as using a €50 Ikea induction hob that I use instead of the gas hop when I can).

Solar for the win.