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Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭wassie


    I read about that also - but didnt the fault result in the units tripping out and unable to be reset?

    Just curious to find out more and if I could have been affected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭Foreign Sports


    I had one of the faulty Garo RCBOs.

    It would trip during the night and randomly. It happened about 3 or 4 times in about 6 weeks.

    Then the installer's came out and switched it for a hager. It has been totally fine since. No random trips or anything, even with a ct clamp and electric shower.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 TSLQs


    Anyone know the difference between the two charge cables that come with a model 3? One in the little square black canvas bag and the other in a plastic bag?

    Thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭eagerv


    One should be the granny charger, ie have a 3 pin domestic plug connection. Other should be a type 2 cable, ie for charging at slow ac chargers without their own cable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭rx8


    One is the type 2 cable for public,non tethered charging, the other is the granny charger for the 3-pin outlet at home.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 TSLQs


    So the type 2 one isn't much use is it? Are there chargers out there with no cables?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,530 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    You’ll use the type 2 cable at home, SCP’s and every other destination charger in the country. So yeah, they kinda do have their use.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 TSLQs


    Sorry new to this.

    Why would I use it at home?

    So chargers don't have their own cables? Like ESB Ionity etc?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,530 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Home chargers come in 2 variants. Tethered and untethered. You use the type 2 cable for untethered chargers.

    eCars and ionity are fast DC chargers, 50kw plus so they have their own cables. But eCars also have 22kw chargers that you use your own cable on. Same for easygo in Lidl, car parks, hotels etc

    Post edited by Gumbo on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭grimman


    the one with the little square is a "granny charger" where you can charge with a normal 3-pin 220V socket. The other in the plastic bag is the cable that you would attach at a dedicated charge point: like so https://images.storychief.com/account_35435/iStock-1442120736_f3320fc6dc7f8973fe044580836ec59a_1600.jpg



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭Paul Kiernan




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,530 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    DC (Direct Current)(Fast) Chargers will always have their own cable and plug attached to the charger (Tesla SuperChargers, Ionity, AppleGreen, eCars DC), and the plug (CCS2) will look like this one below. DC charging means the power goes straight into your battery, and goes in fast (up to 170kW on RWD Model 3/Y, and up to 250kW on LR/P versions)

    CCS2-1106965-Phoenix.jpg

    AC (Alternating Current)(Slow) chargers are what you will do on your driveway, or using eCars 22kW AC chargers, EasyGo or Tesla DESTINATION Chargers etc.. The majority of AC chargers will be untethered, so you will use your own Type 2 Cable that came with the car, but some AC chargers will be tethered and therefore you don't need to use your own cable (Tesla Wall Connecter is tethered, Zappi comes in both tethered and untethered options).

    Here is a Type 2 cable. The thicker end goes into the car, and the thinner end into the charger... you could go months/years without ever using it, or you could end up using it everyday, depending on what type of home charger you have installed, and if it's tethered or not (i.e. comes with its own cable attached to it, meaning you don't have the hassle of taking your own mobile cable out of the boot every few nights).

    Type-2-to-Type-2-option-2-scaled.jpg

    Then you have the UMC (Granny Charger), which is an AC charger, but specifically designed for being plugged into domestic sockets like a standard Irish 3 pin plug (though with the UMC, you can swap the 3 pin for a Schuko plug (for use in Europe), or a blue 16 amp or 32amp industrial socket you might find in an industrial setting or at a caravan park. Note: You will only receive the U.K./Irish 3 pin adaptor with your UMC, and if you want/need additional adaptors you need to buy from Tesla separately. For instance I also bought a Schuko adaptor for mine for use in Europe, however after over 3 years, I've never actually used my UMC. On a 3 pin domestic plug the max rate of charge is 13 amps so 13 x 230v = 2.99kW*, but by using a blue 16/32amp adaptor and if the supply is there the UMC can charge at the full 32a on single phase meaning you could get the full 7.2kW from one. (for some people the UMC suffices in place of a dedicated home charger if they have a 16a or 32a outdoor socket they can plug the UMC into)

    *drawing 3kW from a 3 pin socket in your home for boiling a kettle for a few minutes is fine, but continuously drawing 3kW for a number of hours to charge a car could put strain on the domestic socket not to mention heating it up excessively, so if/when ever using the UMC, just keep an eye on the socket it's plugged into for heat build up, and if necessary you can dial the charging rate of the car down as low as 5a to reduce stress on the domestic socket/house load...

    UMCgen1-2-672x283-1.jpeg


    A point worth mentioning on AC charging though is the car has the onboard AC charger, which converts the AC energy you put into it to DC current which goes into the battery, so essentially any AC charger like an eCars 22kW or your home charger is only really a fancy socket, as the AC charger itself lives in the car.

    Also, there are limits on AC charging. When on single phase (your home supply) the max rate of AC charging is 32 amps on the single phase which gives you about 7.2kW charging speed (230v x 32amps = 7.36kW), but when on 3 phase (22kW chargers) the max rate per phase is only 16 amps, so 230v x 3ph x 16amp = 11.04kW. So when you plug a Model 3 or Y into a 22kW AC charger, the most you'll ever see is 11kW charging speed (and this is a very common question in the fb groups: why am I only getting 11kW from a 22kW charger?.....).


    Either way I'd highly recommend carrying both the Type 2 cable & UMC in the car at all times... even if your day to day driving would mean you'd never use them.. the Type 2 AC cable is your lifeline if ever stuck somewhere and low on charge and there aren't any DC chargers around you, and the UMC is the ultimate last resort.. I've never used mine, but it's been in the boot for all 79,000km's the car has ever driven...

    Post edited by AndyBoBandy on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭rx8


    Superbly explained Andy,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Just a small tip for anyone using the voice recognition for Navigation etc.

    It often doesn't recognise a common english pronunciation of a place name, for example if I input a common destination for me "Kilmore Quay". Tries to get me to one of the Florida Keys.😊

    If I say it literally, ie " Navigate to Kilmore Kway" then it has no problems..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,401 ✭✭✭Fingleberries


    🙂

    Does it still do that if you use the new 'British English' voice commands?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭eagerv




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,159 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Thinking of getting an aftermarket tow hook fitted to carry bicycles. Has anybody had any experience of doing this?

    Working out at about half the cost of including it in the new car order, presumably due to the sliding VRT scale



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I believe it can be done, but will never be rated to tow... only to carry a bike rack or a box...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Has Tesla ever not honoured the warranty due to an aftermarket tow hook?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,159 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Don't need it to tow so that would be grand.

    Although it is confusing as 3 bikes can be heavier than some fully laden trailers...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,159 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Charlie 22


    Anyone have an experience on the colour choices? I've never owned a white car but the cost reduction seems compelling, otherwise I would go for the metallic blue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,159 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    The difference is about 2k when you account for VRT, or 5%, crazy stuff altogether



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Charlie 22


    Its wreaking my head alright. I think I might go for it. The other colours are very dark.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭toushea


    The red is very nice but its €3700 extra with VRT etc. I love black cars but nightmare to maintain. The blue and MSM I agree too dark in my opinion. The multicoat white I'm very fond of and a wrap is always an option. I got quotes for wrapping around €2-2500.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,502 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Blue looks real nice in the sun. Otherwise it's dull. I went for MSM and love it.

    The white cars look good, but the curves get hidden a fair bit. For the sake of 2k....if you plan to keep the car, choose the one you love.

    Oh, and don't forget to use a referral code when ordering for free credits. Mine is in my signature and takes you to the M3/Y page. 😀

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭eagerv


    I never really liked white cars, but our present two and our previous two are white.😋

    But they are easier imo to keep looking good, don't show swirls, rain marks and dust as bad as darker colours. Also still look good when a little dirty. Tar spots do show up however, but a quick once over yearly with tar remover should sort that.

    Also a bright colour is apparently safer on the road, also cooler in sunshine (Though the Tesla roof does negate that a bit).

    Colour is very much a personal preference, my choice would be MSM or the new silver when available. But I think need the light interior to give the car a lift.

    Another advantage of the Tesla white is that is appears good quality paint. After my 21K kms there are no paint chips evident as yet..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Get the white car, and what you save on paint will pay for a wrap in 1-2 years if you so wish, to completely change the look of the car...


    There are some fantastic looking wrapped Model 3's out there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Charlie 22


    Thanks for the advice lads, I went for white. I think the money now and wrap later is a nice option which I didn't consider.

    I take it estimated delivery May/June is total fantasy? I guess I get to join the other thread now (waiting room!)



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