Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

rodneytrotter15

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120390552#Comment_120390552

Hey Mike, do you tell the car to precondition for Ionity ? Through the GPS as a destination ?

Mike2006

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120391340#Comment_120391340

Hi, no - I had to fool the system by putting in the Tesla Supercharger in Sandyford as the destination... Once it saw the Tesla supercharger as the destination then it automatically went to precondition mode..

Mike

murphaph

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120391294#Comment_120391294

Where would most of these Model 3's have been built? I wonder will the German built ones be better as they start to move through the system. None of the Teslas currently failing the TÜV were built in Germany as new vehicles do not have to be tested in Germany until they are 3 years old and from then on every two years. The German plant isn't old enough to have produced any of these failing vehicles. Of course, if the issues are design related then build quality won't help, but one could reasonably presume that parts that cause regular failures will be upgraded or redesigned. It's possible Tesla has already made some changes or will do so.

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120391553#Comment_120391553

Every Model 3 in Ireland up until about Q3 2020 was made in Fremont, every Model 3/Y that’s arrived in Ireland since then was made in China.

Old diesel

I see reports that the Highland Model 3 is going to have a temperature sensor removed..

The one that is used for dash display.....

Am I correct in assuming there are separate temperature sensors for the interior and therefore shouldn't be implications for using heating.....

https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1255/exclusive-tesla-s-model-3-project-highland-exposed-what-s-changing

slave1

I'd ignore everything in that article, it's all click bait, did you see the amount of ads that were on that webpage.

Tesla will do their thing and won't be advertising it as usual, when cars start getting delivered with changes then YT will let us know...

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120391553#Comment_120391553

No German cars will make their way through our NCT system.

What are the reasons for failure in Germany? I’ve put 2 Model S’s though the NCT without a single issue so far.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120392122#Comment_120392122

The major failure was headlamp focus related if I remember it right. Also some Fremont cars had brake lines fitted without clipping them in place properly and stuff like that.

murphaph

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120392122#Comment_120392122

The text (pertaining to the Model 3) of the original article by the TÜV association reads:

Schlusslicht des Quartetts ist der Tesla Model 3, der zu den beliebtesten Elektrofahrzeugen in Deutschland gehört. 8,9 Prozent der geprüften Fahrzeuge fallen bei der ersten Hauptuntersuchung durch. Damit würden im Ranking dieser Altersklasse nur noch vier Autos hinter dem Tesla liegen, darunter der Dacia Logan, Dacia Dokker und VW Sharan. Neben der Beleuchtung mit Defekten am Abblendlicht und an den Nebelscheinwerfern haben auch die Bremsscheiben des Model 3 häufiger Mängel als der Durchschnitt aller untersuchten Fahrzeuge. Das gleiche gilt für die Achsaufhängung

Which translates to (my translation):

In bottom place of the 4 (EVs) is the Tesla Model 3, which is one of the most popular EVs in Germany. 8.9% of the tested vehicles fail their first main inspection. As a result of this only 4 cars are worse than the Tesla in this age category, including the Dacia Logan, Dacia Dokker and VW Sharan. Apart from lighting with defective dipped headlights and fog lights, the brake discs on the Model 3 have above average defect rates compared to all other vehicles (My comment: presumably also in this age category though it's not explicit here). The same goes for the suspension.

It doesn't mention specific suspension components however. The original press release can be found here and run through Google translate for the rest: https://www.tuev-verband.de/pressemitteilungen/e-autos-mit-durchwachsenen-ergebnissen-bei-der-hauptuntersuchung

Gumbo

Not surprised on the headlights. Most of my NCT failures over the years were headlight alignment and I can only imagine the TUV being even stricter.

I’ll keep an eye on the brake discs and suspension.

I suspect many owners take the “no service requirement” to the extremes and don’t even regularly check their cars!

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120392512#Comment_120392512

I would imagine my Model 3 lights (March 2022) would fail if checked at TUV or possibly NCT. They are without a doubt the worst of any recent car I have had. Tesla say they will need the car for at least a day to refocus or whatever they have to do. Alignment doesn't work. Not doing a huge amount of night driving at the moment and with the longer days I am not too worried, but will need to have fixed before next winter.

murphaph

The brake discs are a common fault on many EVs as regen braking does most of the heavy lifting and this can lead to caliper seizure and extremely rusty discs which then (apart from being quite dangerous in an emergency) leads to test failures. I heard that some EVs actively disengage the regen periodically to force the mechanical braking system to be used, thus helping to prevent these issues.

Thumper Long

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120392782#Comment_120392782

I’m the M3 i would weekly perform an emergency stop by slamming on the brakes to clear any crud, have a deserted road I drive regularly that is straight for a long way with no turns or houses so is ideal for a brake test, one you get used to regen I reckon 95% of my driving is one pedal

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120391242#Comment_120391242

You can also enlarge the car temporarily to see the brake lights, using the pinch and zoom with 2 fingers.

eagerv

I find with the weak regen in the colder weather that I am using real brakes a little more than other EVs, so hopefully they will stay clean.

wassie

Installed new wipers this week and has made a massive difference with the auto-wipers. Was driving me crazy last week on the motorways with the constant use of AP.

Now if they could only allow a setting to stop auto-headlight automatically engaging. Very frustrating on the intercity motorways in the evenings when passing cars and re-engaging AP.

I am frequently momentarily blinding oncoming trucks whose lights are hidden by the concrete crash barrier before I can disengage the high beams.

slave1

Just push the left stalk away from you to disengage auto high beam, you'll need to do this every time you go into CC or Auto Steer in the only thing

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120393593#Comment_120393593

my car must be a glitch in the matrix because auto high beams never come on when I engage autopilot at night….

Bovakinn

Looks like Tesla vision is getting distances back, although according to the OP on Reddit, it's not great.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1207hqe/tesla_vision_parking_sensors_update/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Gumbo

Model 3 price reduced to €43,558.

Just in case anyone is on the fence.

murphaph

About the suspension failures....I asked a forum member (not a motoring forum) of another forum I'm on here in Germany. He said the following when I asked him if it was a Model 3 and what exactly went wrong with the suspension:

Yes, Model 3. The suspension would creak when turning the wheel, accelerating, decelerating, and when I would push the front end of the car down with my hands. Left and right wishbone assembly replaced. Front left and right control arm assembly replaced. Cost: €935.96

YMMV but one to look out for. When I hear control arms replaced I get flashbacks to the awful VW/Audi B5 platform that ate control arm and drop-link bushings and ball joints on both sides. I was warned by a VW mechanic to stay away from both the A4 and Passat but I ignored his advice and paid the price lol. Eventually the affected parts were redesigned and up-rated but the problem with the design was never truly solved and I believe the B6 platform went back to more conventional McPherson struts.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120394983#Comment_120394983

Actually the early Model 3’s have a recall for the front suspension part that creaks. I’ll try route it. It may not actually be a recall but a few Irish owners logged creaking and it was replaced FOC as there’s an updated part seemly.

Edit - front suspension upper control arms. Replacement under warranty for free.

I wonder if this is that?

murphaph

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120394999#Comment_120394999

He will kick himself if it was a recall as he paid nearly a grand for the work to be carried out!

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120395004#Comment_120395004

Deffo being done for free here anyway. A few in the group had it. Seems to hit the SR+ more than the P from my looking into it.

I know my P is fine but recently had the ranger out replacing the humidity sensor and he checked it in the garden.

wassie

I had mine replaced last August - SR+ (21 refresh model) but from Fremont. Mobile engineer came out on site and replaced it in half a day. No creaks since!

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120393593#Comment_120393593

But thats there the problem is. Theres a brief flash between the high beams coming on to manually switching it off.

On a 'dark' motorway with no cars directly in front, often the oncoming traffic lights on the other side are obscured by the concrete crash barrier so the car puts on the high beam. Any trucks coming towards me then cop a flash as the cabin is sitting above the crash barrier.

Its a PIA on the intercity motorways in the evenings when you constantly overtaking and re-engaging AP frequently.

THE ALM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120395207#Comment_120395207

It's the same with the ID3 matrix and I end up disengaging the auto function.

As you say, cars are ok as they are sitting lower but I will get flashed by trucks etc.

MightyMunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120395207#Comment_120395207

If there's a car coming towards you the auto beams are active but will stay dipped from my experience. Find them working well since Decembers update, had them off since 2020 before that.

mfceiling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120395016#Comment_120395016

I got mine done for free last year. Ranger came to the house and did it.

Something to do with the amount of grease in a joint being increased as the margins were set for California (freemont build) and needed to have more for the damper conditions in Europe.

aigne

Front control arm replacement fixed previous creaking problem for me, but creaking has returned in 2023. Diagnosed as rear links and knuckles. ~110,000km 2020 sr+