Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120119153#Comment_120119153

Just assume 2kw charging. You won’t go wrong with that.

sk8board

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120106469#Comment_120106469

“there were 40-45 M3’s on carzone for months, give or take, 47 yesterday after this news broke and 57 this morning, albeit €42k still the cheapest, a 192.”

Quick update on the 2nd hand listings:

today there’s 61 M3’s for sale on carzone and 6 are now under the €42k I mentioned 3 days ago.

€39.9k is the cheapest (base spec 191 sr+ with 55,000 kms).

still a long long way to drop over the coming months as the batch of buyers jumping into the cheaper (& better base spec) 231’s start delivering.

In todays market, com July 2023, what’s the 3.5yr depreciation on an original freemont SR+ & it’s battery/spec? It’s €30-35k you’d think.

Gile_na_gile

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120119456#Comment_120119456

Since we're both on the lookout following prices over the last year or two, can PM you if I see something standout and vice versa. On DD there are two SR+ for 37k. One is a reasonably accurately priced 2020 SR+ in blue with 40k km (private sale, so buyer beware regards outstanding finance, clock accuracy, damages, etc. etc.), and the other a 2019 SR+ which is well out of basic warranty with 93k km (also private sale). Private sellers seem to decrease first.

Another good price is a 41k LR AWD in white 2020 on DD (private sale, 52k km). I'm not interested in white, but that is a fair price for the time being as Tesla have not reduced their own used stock further in line with new prices across Europe. Exception is large markets like France which massive downward pressure on M3s, so their 2019 SR+ are already at 30k.

edit: like you said, there will be a lot of M3s for sale as people move to 231 MY to accommodate growing families or just because they like the space and height.

gallagheri

What's everyones experience with range in the RWD LFP? I was hoping to get 350 easily maybe 380 on motorway at 100-110? I'd be bummed if I got 280-300 tbh.

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120119626#Comment_120119626

100 on the motorway? That's Leaf behaviour and bad form for a Tesla 😀

gallagheri

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120119641#Comment_120119641

Lol. I find myself not doing 130 km/h anymore. Getting old I suppose?

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120119641#Comment_120119641

That’s the limit for the M50 in Dublin, so not to be sniffed at.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120119456#Comment_120119456

You can already see the influx of EV’s on the market.

this time last month you couldn’t get a BMW i4 anywhere, now donedeal is flooded with them!

times are changing.

RE the SR price. When did we get them, 192 I think, so we are 3.5 years in on them, what’s normal depreciation…

192 should be worth 30ish maybe?

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120119911#Comment_120119911

I don't think the OP planned to do 380 km driving back and forth from the airport to Sandyford all day 😀

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120120005#Comment_120120005

Could be a taxi driver 😉

gallagheri

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120120005#Comment_120120005

Definitely did not plan that lol! Definitely would still be doing 110 at most. Maybe 120-130 to try it out for a stretch. I like to keep things quiet honestly.

slave1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120120062#Comment_120120062

Taxis/Uber etc are not supposed to use SuC ever so if the driver is reported Tesla will OTA take away SuC access off that vehicle very quickly

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120120143#Comment_120120143

Perhaps I am getting older as well, don't think any of us are getting younger 😋, I often prefer to drive at about 110 km/h on motorways when they are busy, find it much more relaxing. But will go 120+ on quieter ones like in Co Wexford or Co Waterford. Recent trips up north with freezing fog often meant 110 was on the high side, but it's rare for me to do all motorways, usually a good bit of 80 and 100 km/h limits. I reckon about 350km range would be at the lower end for my sort of driving in my RWD.

mfceiling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120120228#Comment_120120228

Is that true? I've seen a fair amount of model 3 taxis around. Never knew they couldn't use the SuC.

slave1

Taxis and the like have never been allowed access to the SuC network, it's more prevalent in the US where they get "barred". If you are in the US and see a high mileage Tesla you will be on the lookout to see does it still have SuC access or has it been revoked.

Tesla have it in their T&C somewhere

slave1

There you go, so commercial operations should contact Tesla for charging rates if commercially associated...

Supercharger Fair Use Policy

We are continually expanding our global network of Supercharger stations, which enable long distance travel and provide a charging solution for those without access to charging at home or work, and are thereby accelerating the world’s transition to sustainable energy.

To help ensure Superchargers are available for their intended use, we ask that you not charge your vehicle using a Supercharger if your vehicle is being used for a commercial purpose (such as a taxi or for ridesharing through services like Uber or Lyft), unless you charge on a pay per use basis.

If you charge your vehicle in a manner that does not comply with this Supercharger Fair Use Policy, we may ask you to modify this behavior, or we may take additional action to protect the availability of Superchargers for their intended purpose, such as limiting or blocking your vehicle’s ability to use Supercharger stations.

This Policy applies to all Superchargers worldwide and all Tesla vehicles with free unlimited Supercharging or free Supercharging for the lifetime of vehicle ownership, purchased, either new or used, whether from Tesla or a third party, after December 15, 2017.

Charging Alternatives: We encourage the commercial use of Tesla vehicles while using appropriate charging solutions. Please reach out to your local sales contact to explore transitioning to pay per use charging, or other vehicle and charging options that suit your needs. For questions related to home charging, please contact charginginstallation@tesla.com.

josip

Reads like it was brought in when Supercharging was free. Would it still be relevant and applicable now when all new customers are paying for it and presumably it's no longer a loss leader for Tesla.

Core6

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120118975#Comment_120118975

I was charging using the granny cable on my M3 RWD before I had the Zappi installed.

I recorded the time that the charger was used and compared the theoretical 2.3kWh versus the actual kWh used from the data from the smart meter.

There was an approximate 5% loss on average over a couple of months. For example, on a 6 hour charging session which in theory should have used 13.8kWh (6 x 2.3), actually used 14.45kWh which is just under 5% loss. The 14.45kWh was, of course, the entire household usage for that time but it was at night so very minor load.

Also, I was only recording the Battery % change -- it was adding somewhere between 3.5% and 4.0% to the battery per hour.

slave1

Commercial customers pay commercial rates is the way it should be/is now, anyhow belongs on SuC thread.....

Thor

For those who have been around the block. Is there much difference between 2020 and 2021. I believe the heat-pump is the main factor, but does it bring large benefits as one would hope.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120120228#Comment_120120228

We are talking about driving 100km/h on the M50. Nobody mentioned supercharging.

MightyMunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120121271#Comment_120121271

2020 is faster and the battery should perform better in this weather, I'd recommend snapping one up on Donedeal 😁

embraer170

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120119626#Comment_120119626

I got a new RWD LFP Model 3 late last year. I don't have any home charging these days so I have been monitoring the car's consumption closely to fit in as many returns to work as possible and avoid spending time in the evening at public chargers. I have 80km return journey to work, almost all motorway where I drive around 85-100kmph with moderate heating (19.5c, fan speed 1) but plenty use of heated seats/steering wheel.

In the current winter weather, I manage about 330-360 on one charge (4 days of work journeys). If I do many short journeys (for example on Saturday), the consumption increases dramatically (activating and heating the car each time) and I can't imagine managing much more than 250. Doing a single long motorway journey at 85-100 and the same moderate heating use, I would imagine getting closer to 380-400 (but haven't tried yet). Figures will probably improve as it gets warmer.

I love the car (except for the lack of the parking sensors) but I can't imagine reliably getting 350-380 at 110-120 motorway speeds.

One thing I hadn't considered was battery drain. Parked outside in the cold, my Tesla consistently loses 1-2% overnight (adds up over a week). My other EV (an e-Up) can be left for weeks with absolutely no drain at all. As for Sentry, that uses 8-10% over 24 hours (not even worth considering in my case as I discovered).

Dubron

Has anyone managed to pick up a set of aftermarket alloys similar to the 19in sport wheels for the Model 3? A LR model with a colour change and the alloys comes in over the grant threshold unfortunately.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120122555#Comment_120122555

Greendrive have them.

https://www.greendrive-accessories.com/en/products/168/-set-of-4-19-or-20-sport-rims-tesla-model-3-and-tesla-model-y.html

Bif

Hi. Can anyone confirm if Tesla can retrofit a tow bar to the latest model 3? Thanks.

GTE

@MightyMunster What's the difference between the batteries?

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120122845#Comment_120122845

The LFP battery is more sustainable using less rare earth materials. It allows 100% charging whenever you want. But the trade off is less performance and lower cold weather performance than the batteries in the older cars.

slave1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120122748#Comment_120122748

Nope, factory only, the Tesla Model 3 page clearly states this

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120119911#Comment_120119911

Only down as far as Sandyford, as the limit from Sandyford to the M/N11 is 120 km/h