Mod stalking posts

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

The Beast stalked my posts to read in an infraction.

He was so blinded by his prejudice his tunnel vision missed posters throwing around the word retard.

When challenged on this he said it’s not his job to infract posters for the word retard.

He gave me a warning because of his prejudice interpretation of:

No one's mind is going to be changed online.

But it sure as hell is entertaining to see you all get so wound up when you cannot respond to points raised.

Instead just allowing yourselves descend into hysterics and 'I read' statements.

He interpreted this as You are admitting to winding up other users

It’s clear that I didn’t admit to winding anyone up. I said it’s entertaining to see them wound up. And it is. The thread is full of hysteria and trans panic.

I know you’ll side with the posters who use retard and their mod the beast.

But at least it’s here in black and white, the mods priorities.

The result of a lack of diversity in mods.

Pawwed Rig

Hi

I can look at this for you. Can you confirm that you engaged with the mod in a constructive manner to understand the reason for the card and attempted to come to a mutually agreeable solution?
If so please list the pm exchange here in chronological order.

If you could link to the post in question that would also be appreciated.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

Mods upset they’re being called out on 400 pages of the vilest racism, transphobia homophobia sexism I could go on.

Ten of Swords

Moderator Note

Continuous trolling and thread derailing. DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD AGAIN

Ten of Swords
Your post:Quote: Carerhomeless
Not surprised the thread has descended into racism and homophobia now also.

Terrible to see such things printed in Ireland in 2020.

Stating facts too painful for boardsies?

Pathetic

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

Text book homophobia here but tens of swords thread bans me for calling it out. Saying gay people have nothing to contribute and are against nature is saying homosexuality is a death cult a term used by the alt right. But hey Mods are going side with their Ilk.

Jaxx (how fitting)

HETEROSEXUALITY IS THE DEFAULT

How would animals breed if everyone was gay?? Life is about survival.

For animals, that means reproduction.

HOW CAN YOU REPRODUCE WITHOUT MALE AND FEMALE??

Are most people hetero or bi? Umm,

NO SH*T SHERLOCK!

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

‘Blacks’ is not an acceptable term.

Please listen to black people on the subject.

The argument thrown back is if black people can say it white people can. The same that alt right use for the N word. Is boards really condoning that?

Mickeroo

Can you clarify which infracion you are appealing and whether you have engaged with the mod who gave you said infraction to try and resolve before coming here.

If you aren't appealing an infraction or ban then this thread does not belong here.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

Mickeroo wrote: »

Can you clarify which infracion you are appealing and whether you have engaged with the mod who gave you said infraction to try and resolve before coming here.

If you aren't appealing an infraction or ban then this thread does not belong here.

I’ve laid out the two.

Mickeroo

OK then if you are appealing both that is fine.

I will let Pawwed Rig take it from here, please confirm for them if you have engaged constructively via PM with both mods who have infracted you.

Thanks.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

Mickeroo wrote: »

OK then if you are appealing both that is fine.

I will let Pawwed Rig take it from here, please confirm for them if you have engaged constructively via PM with both mods who have infracted you.

Thanks.

I attempted to engage but when the mods aren’t for turning what can you do?

If one can’t see homophobia, racism, ableism when it’s in front of them, they need more than Specsavers.

I won’t bring in transphobia because Mods have decided such a thing doesn’t exist.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

As a single parent carer I have used this site for company and participated in threads on food and shopping during lockdown.

However, the main page is continually flooded with absolute horrendous content. I was shocked. It’s hard not to be drawn in, in to attempt to just counter some of the awful things written because the mods allow it.

Someone needs to say trans people, gay people, black people, people with disabilities are PEOPLE. They are human and they are valued.

This site is so Americanised are the posters even in Ireland? The constant referral to kool-aid is so insidious.

Pawwed Rig

Can you confirm that you engaged with the mod in a constructive manner to understand the reason for the card and attempted to come to a mutually agreeable solution?
If so please list the pm exchange here in chronological order.

If you could link to the post in question that would also be appreciated.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Can you confirm that you engaged with the mod in a constructive manner to understand the reason for the card and attempted to come to a mutually agreeable solution?
If so please list the pm exchange here in chronological order.

If you could link to the post in question that would also be appreciated.

I questioned the warning but he wasn’t open to engagement.

When I reported to him the use of the word retard against me and in general he told me he wasn’t a mod and wasn’t going to deal with it.

It’s not very civil to stalk peoples posts to silence them because you want to continue a harmful thread.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

I will be called uncivil because I challenged the mods but the people using retard won’t.

Look the mods here will just sweep this under the carpet. They don’t like being challenged.

I didn’t even get a response to the last time I complained about a mod here.

Sweep it under the carpet.

Either the mods are worse than the posters or they don’t want to be mods and allow the site to be overrun by extremists.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

Facts are.

Mods turn a blind eye to transphobia and terms of abuse like retard.

But they actively try to spin posts which challenge these views by interpreting them as trolling.

Saying I’m amused by ignorance isn’t trolling.

Saying it’s entertaining to see people screaming hysterically with trans panic is not trolling it’s a fact.

The people on the thread are so paranoid so extreme the only response is to laugh at them.

It’s not trolling to tell someone how they make you feel.

Edit: Also telling me to report is disingenuous. I was kindly warned that if you report posts you'll be infracted for spamming reporting. You can't win.

Pawwed Rig

Ok last chance.

Can you do the 3 items I have listed below;

1. confirm that you engaged with the mod in a constructive manner to understand the reason for the card and attempted to come to a mutually agreeable solution?

This requires a Yes or No answer.


2. Please list the pm exchange here in chronological order.

This requires you to post on thread (or pm me) with the conversation you had with the relevant mod.


3. Link to the post in question.

This requires a url link. So open the post, copy the web address and paste it here.

This appeal can go no further until the 3 items above are completed.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

I am a carer for a dependent adult child I don't have time for schoolboys.

We both know this is already decided so give me your decision.

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Ok last chance.

Can you do the 3 items I have listed below;

1. confirm that you engaged with the mod in a constructive manner to understand the reason for the card and attempted to come to a mutually agreeable solution?

This requires a Yes or No answer.

Yes to reasonable people.


2. Please list the pm exchange here in chronological order.

This requires you to post on thread (or pm me) with the conversation you had with the relevant mod.

I don't know how to do that.


3. Link to the post in question.

This requires a url link. So open the post, copy the web address and paste it here.

Can you specify what you're looking for?

This appeal can go no further until the 3 items above are completed.

Pawwed Rig

I haven't even looked at it yet so do not have an opinion on the matter. However you chose to ask for my time to assess your appeal (which I am happy to do) so it is up to you to follow the procedure as it is laid out.

Who are the schoolboys you are referring to?

To show me the pms you;
1. open the pm.
2. Select the text.
3. Right click copy and then
4. paste in this thread.

I need a link to the infraction you received as I cannot make a determination without reading it.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114757082&postcount=4706

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114760834&postcount=4776

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114761080&postcount=4801

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

And if the mod is doing a cleanup "Thread needs a bit of a review and cleanup, " why does the homosexuality isn't natural stuff remain along with the blackface and retard comments?

Mods will sniff out any criticism of them or interpret things to suit their agenda but are blind to the above. Confront the prejudices the mods have here.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

Dear Carerhomeless,

You have been warned for Trolling.

This means you are posting in an intentionally provocative fashion in order to gain a reaction from other members. This is disruptive and causes stress to other members.
We don't want that here.

For more information please refer to the Boards.ie FAQ.



Beasty

Moderator Note

You are admitting to winding up other users

Your post:Quote: Carerhomeless
No one's mind is going to be changed online.

But it sure as hell is entertaining to see you all get so wound up when you cannot respond to points raised.

Instead just allowing yourselves descend into hysterics and 'I read' statements.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

Report posts you have an issue with and the mods will review and act as they see fit

Quote: Aydin Sharp Query
Wrong

I said that it’s entertaining to seen people get wound up.

I didn’t admit to winding anyone up.

Focus on people using the word retard perhaps.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

I’m sure Beaty said he wasn’t a moderator then but was that my message to him sent back to me? Confused

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

I said report. Those of us who are mods can then have a look

Quote: Aydin Sharp Query
I’m not a mod.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

The confusion over me thinking he said he’s not a mod made me question why he was interfering with my posts.

I have no idea what you are attempting to say

Quote: Aydin Sharp Query
Why are you interfering with me then?

Oh right.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

It’s the usual from the mods any ism must be reported but we’ll act independently for anything challenging us or our moderation.

I've told you to report posts you have an issue with

In terms of your card, you have made little attempt to challenge it. You have simply become confrontational presumably to suit your "agenda"

Quote: Aydin Sharp Query
You’re not a mod to clean up horrific abusive terms like retard but you can read a message to suit your agenda?

Transparent

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

If you are not going to engage in civil discussion I cannot see how this can be progressed further. You are supposed to make a genuine attempt to resolve this with me, but all I'm getting from you is deflection from the card itself.

Quote: Aydin Sharp Query
You ignored my attempt again to suit your agenda.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

I asked you to report any posts you have an issue with. I dealt with the post you did report within 3 minutes of it being reported

Now you seem to want to take over Feedback with your "cause" that, so far as I am concerned has been dealt with. Yet you continue with this barrage of PMs telling me to do something that I dealt with within those 3 minutes of the report

Quote: Aydin Sharp Query
You revealed to me in pm you only mod people you disagree with. You deliberately trolled my posts to find something to warn but you then said you are not responsible for dealing with posters who use terms like retard.

That reveals what you’re about.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

I think that’s it.

By the way asking for the sanctioning of retard/blackface isn’t a cause, it’s just being decent to your fellow human beings.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

Also who was banned from the thread?

The person saying someone is a retard posting blackface images saying homosexuality isn't natural or the person who said said none of those things?

Who is still posting after spamming the thread with hysterics of 'they' are attempting to shut down the thread, they are trying to derail the thread and using uncivil language?

Pawwed Rig

Aydin Sharp Query wrote: »

The confusion over me thinking he said he’s not a mod made me question why he was interfering with my posts.

Ok to looks like you got confused during the pm exchange. Just to clarify that Beasty is a mod of the forum and it was with him that you needed to have a civil discussion with to understand why you were infected and attempt to resolve the issue.
Because of your confusion this has not happened.

I would also note that noone was stalking you. Your posts were reported by users (non mods) and acted upon by the moderators of the forum.
It is not possible for any moderator to read every thread in the forum never mind every post so where there are issues we rely on the users in the threads to report posts where they have concerns. Where posts are not reported it is unlikely that they will ever be seen by a current affairs moderator given that it is one of the busiest forums on boards.

With the above in mind can you let me know where you want to go from here?

Can I ask that you respond 1 post at a time from here on?

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

You state someone reported my post:

No one's mind is going to be changed online.

But it sure as hell is entertaining to see you all get so wound up when you cannot respond to points raised.

The moderator then sprung into action and actioned that post because they interpreted it as You are admitting to winding up other users

1. I contest this. I didn't admit to winding up other users I said it was entertaining to see them GET so wound up as they have no argument. There were posters just responding shouting THEY'RE DERAILING THE THREAD/THEY'RE TRYING TO SHUT DOWN THE THREAD.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114756985&postcount=4703

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114756695&postcount=4683

It was over the top and very transparent and I found it funny. This infraction should be revoked.
What was more insidious was the assertion that mods spring into action when a post is reported and don't read surrounding posts for context. I don't believe that. Further, the blackface/retard meme is still on the thread.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114757281&postcount=4713

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Responding to a claim that homosexuality isn't natural and the verbal diarrhoea of the argument shut-down Trumpism Kool-Aid and the use of the term 'the blacks' I said:

Not surprised the thread has descended into racism and homophobia now also.

Terrible to see such things printed in Ireland in 2020.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114760796&postcount=4769

The mods sprung into action again and thread banned me for stating the bleeding obvious.

It's not acceptable to say what Jaxx said:

HETEROSEXUALITY IS THE DEFAULT

How would animals breed if everyone was gay?? Life is about survival.

For animals, that means reproduction.

HOW CAN YOU REPRODUCE WITHOUT MALE AND FEMALE??

Are most people hetero or bi? Umm,

NO SH*T SHERLOCK!

This claiming that homosexuality is a death cult.

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Myself and other poster have sustained personal attacks on the thread and have a tough enough skin but it's clear if its the other way around its actionable.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114757400&postcount=4721

I was called a danger to society for calling out racist terminology
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114760889&postcount=4787

It then descended into well the well worn if black people can say xxxxxx so can I. Is that what Boards is defending?

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When I challenged them on comments made about 'two-spirit' people, I was accused of all sorts. They stated that an idigenous person stating they are 'two-spirit' would not get any, they refuse to allow people to self-identify even ones with proud histories like 'two-spirit and hijra'.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114757151&postcount=4710

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Finally, the Moderator banned me from the thread and said he'd clean it up. I have seen no evidence of this.

In the exchange that resulted in my ban I was the only one publicly banned, very revealing in itself.

Do you ever change the mods around?

The posters in the thread also admitted that they are safe to post, not to be muzzled with certain mods. This is a sad reflection on Boards.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114770527&postcount=4909

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I think my first infraction was a wrong interpretation of what I said.
The thread ban was for continuous trolling but no evidence of that can be furnished.
Calling people out on their views is not trolling. Screaming that a thread will be derailed is trolling and spamming but none of the posters who aligned with the 'the blacks/the retards' style of engagement were banned publicly.

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If the mods were unbiased then these infractions wouldn't have happened.

I come here for baking and shopping and advice but seeing the JK Rowling/TERF **** on the front page everyday is disgusting and off-putting.


Just like Trumps shout out to the Proud Boys last night which resulted in encouraging them to be even more antagonistic online the posters on the thread stepped up their vitriol after my ban and now are using the word retarded in other contexts because the mods condoned it.

While it's an informal use of retarded it's still considered offensive.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114777071&postcount=5048

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Lastly I would like to draw to your attention that people post with abilities and you should be cognisant to all capabilities and provide reasonable accommodation. I did your request to post in one post but my memory may blank and I may have to add, I ask not to be penalised for this but for accommodation for my age and capabilities.



Thank you.

Pawwed Rig

Ok calm down.
I am dealing with your appeal. That is all. I am not looking at any other posts. Report any that you take issue with and the mods will assess them.

Aydin Sharp Query wrote: »

The moderator then sprung into action and actioned that post because they interpreted it as You are admitting to winding up other users

Great. Now we are getting somewhere. So your claim is that the moderator misinterpreted your post.
That may or may not be the case but that is the reason for the first step in the DRP. Therefore at this point given the clarifications and explanations I have laid out above I want to invite you to reengage with the moderator (who is a volunteer by the way) and explain why it was misinterpreted. If you can do this in a civil manner and it fails then we can move onto step 2 of this process.

When you are discussing with him please keep to the issue at hand rather than firing walls of text at him. He will not discuss other posts or posters at this point either nor will he (or I) engage you in a discussion about Donald Trump or your views on Harry Potter authors.

0xzmro3n4y7lb5

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Ok calm down.
I am dealing with your appeal. That is all. I am not looking at any other posts. Report any that you take issue with and the mods will assess them.



Great. Now we are getting somewhere. So your claim is that the moderator misinterpreted your post.
That may or may not be the case but that is the reason for the first step in the DRP. Therefore at this point given the clarifications and explanations I have laid out above I want to invite you to reengage with the moderator (who is a volunteer by the way) and explain why it was misinterpreted. If you can do this in a civil manner and it fails then we can move onto step 2 of this process.

When you are discussing with him please keep to the issue at hand rather than firing walls of text at him. He will not discuss other posts or posters at this point either nor will he (or I) engage you in a discussion about Donald Trump or your views on Harry Potter authors.

That’s a very disingenuous post.

I did engage. I posted the exchange here. Of course you’re going to say it’s uncivil do it again because you are on a power trip. He chose not to engage. End of.

Can you point me to where I expressed my views on a Harry Potter author in the last week?

I’m not here to sort out Boards if the mods want it full of racist, transphobic bile that’s your problem.

If someone keeps shouting at you incoherently and hysterically about kool aid I am going to question the source of this immature phrase.

I’m sorry if the job is too much for you but as volunteers I’m sure you can hand over the reigns to someone qualified and look at a more diverse pool.

Pawwed Rig

Ok I tried.

Card upheld. Please let me know if you want to goto an admin review

Boards.ie: Niamh

No need, OP has had their account closed and anonymised.