New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

suicide_circus

Who dat

ancapailldorcha

suicide_circus wrote: »

Virtually all mainstream media in the Anglosphere is decidedly left wing progressive.

Proof please.

suicide_circus

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Proof please.

I'll prove it when you prove that this new channel is far right.

In both cases it is our perception.

ancapailldorcha

suicide_circus wrote: »

I'll prove it when you prove that this new channel is far right.

In both cases it is our perception.

You can't then. This channel hasn't launched yet so there's no data about it but you're clearly just talking nonsense here.

By the same token, I could argue that anyone to the left of Hitler is dismissed as far left.

1800_Ladladlad

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Another far right outlet parroting white victimhood and ethnic nationalism. Joy.

That didn't take long.

FTA69

Lol at the idea of the British media being “far left”, people have short memories. During Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership of Labour he was subject to perhaps the most prolonged and savage media barrage I’ve ever seen. This took place across the media spectrum, from the liberal Guardian to the Murdoch outlets to the BBC, the only paper that didn’t boot him on a daily basis was the Mirror. The BBC at one point edited out footage of the audience laughing at Johnson during a debate between the two. Something ridiculous like 75% of coverage of Corbyn on the BBC was wholly negative. Smears on every topic known to man were invented and thrown with all good journalistic practice thrown out the window. He was a spy for the Czech communists, he was in the IRA etc etc. I got into a mad email chain argument with the editor of the Metro when on the front page one day they had “Jeremy Corbyn hosted an IRA delegation in Westminster” - completely preposterous.

When there is a viable left wing in Britain the media turn against it in lockstep, the idea Rupert Murdoch and the private school lot in the BBC are all mad socialists is just ridiculous to be honest.

What we do see in the media these days is an increase in American liberal identity politics that conform to the economic status quo while browbeating us about nonsense inconsequential issues. That’s becoming more evident, but it’s got sh*t all to do with socialism. Jeff Bezos was jumping on the BLM stuff, but I’d hardly call him left wing.

suicide_circus

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

You can't then. This channel hasn't launched yet so there's no data about it but you're clearly just talking nonsense here.

By the same token, I could argue that anyone to the left of Hitler is dismissed as far left.

So you've made an assumption based on no data and i've made an assessment based on my own perception. Do you read what you type?

ancapailldorcha

suicide_circus wrote: »

So you've made an assumption based on no data and i've made an assessment based on my own perception. Do you read what you type?

Well, it's supposed to be a UK version of Fox News.

Since you have no evidence, I'm going to dismiss your silly claim as nonsense.

suicide_circus

FTA69 wrote: »

Something ridiculous like 75% of coverage of Corbyn on the BBC was wholly negative.

So very similar to the electorate's assessment of him then?

suicide_circus

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Well, it's supposed to be a UK version of Fox News.

Since you have no evidence, I'm going to dismiss your silly claim as nonsense.

Good lad

FTA69

suicide_circus wrote: »

So very similar to the electorate's assessment of him then?

Regardless, my point still stands. The BBC editing footage of live audience debates to make Johnson look better and national newspapers pushing outright and blatant lies born of partisanship isn’t journalism, it’s propaganda. The idea the media here is left wing just doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny.

suicide_circus

I refferred to the Anglosphere but i accept that perceptions of the same thing can be wildly different.

Hamsterchops

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Interesting development this, there had been rumours for the last few months.

Andrew Neil has left the BBC to launch a 24-hour news channel to rival BBC and Sky.
GB News will launch early next year – under the chairmanship of Andrew Neil, who will be its flagship presenter.
GB News is aimed at the vast number of British people who feel underserved and unheard by their media.

Its being backed by Discovery and Rupert Murdoch .

https://deadline.com/2020/09/gb-news...il-1234585344/

This should be a welcome addition to counter the far left /woke media so prevalent now.

Another news channel to add to the fifteen I already have on my sat-box, no thanks .......

afatbollix

There is a huge market for this in the UK.

Same as Ireland head out of the capitals and they are a bit old fashioned than the younger city folk.

They seem to be going to make mostly interview style shows like radio talk shows but on TV, Cheaper these days due to Zoom interviews being the norm. It will cost feck all to produce. It wont be about telling the news more setting the news agenda.

The normal media will be outraged and write pages and pages on it each day making it bigger and bigger.

One thing I noticed that has come out about Ofcom is that you have to show both sides of view but you don't have to have equal time for each point of view. I can see them doing an interview for 27 minutes from one side and 3 minutes of the other and that keeps Ofcom happy.

MisterAnarchy

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Well, it's supposed to be a UK version of Fox News.

According to whom, The Guardian is it, because its not mentioned in the vast majority of announcement articles.
The Guardian seem to be going with that line, a UK version of Fox News but that wouldnt surprise me as the The Guardian is a woke rag and untrustworthy.

Another article claims its "expected to be right-leaning", so its possibly centre right, not far right as you claim.

It only has to be non PC, non woke, and fair in its handling of major stories to be an improvement on BBC and Sky News .

listermint

suicide_circus wrote: »

I refferred to the Anglosphere but i accept that perceptions of the same thing can be wildly different.

Not perceptions factual. Leave perceptions at the door.

suicide_circus

Yes, master

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

listermint wrote: »

He's not remotely even handed. You haven't been following along. He's selective. Very much so

Try to be more patronising there, listermint. I don’t think you’ll succeed, you maxed out.

ancapailldorcha

FTA69 wrote: »

Regardless, my point still stands. The BBC editing footage of live audience debates to make Johnson look better and national newspapers pushing outright and blatant lies born of partisanship isn’t journalism, it’s propaganda. The idea the media here is left wing just doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny.

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words:

suicide_circus

If the ushanka fits...

suicide_circus

I'm sure if i knew where to look i could find some equally hilarious graphic with Trump referencing Russian collusion. I note your pic includes the notoriously right-wing Emily Maitlis.

macpaccrack

Ahhhh a news channel for the Far Right Irish 'Patriots' to jizz over with their Loyalist mates up North.

Breaking News: No girlfriend? No job prospects? You ARE important! You are on the front lines of fighting a racial Genocide!!!1111

Whatever those losers need to distract themselves from their own existence and feel important LOL

CtevenSrowder

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Well, it's supposed to be a UK version of Fox News.

Since you have no evidence, I'm going to dismiss your silly claim as nonsense.

No it isn't. He has rejected this claim himself.

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1309553308055539712?s=19

imme

"undeserved and unheard people"

Are members of the public going to contact them and tell them what news is to be news.

The news is the news.

More trump style rubbish.

Will Neil give his hair a wash before the launch.

gizmo

Harry Palmr wrote: »

OFCOM will see this doesn't become a witless clone of Fox News - they've closed Press TV, curtailed the excesses of RT and also intervened against the Chinese lads.

Yea, about that...

https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1309903624374546433

While the appointments don't appear to be confirmed yet, if the story does prove to be true and Johnson is considering these individuals, this kind of move doesn't exactly inspire confidence if the proposed solution to a bias in one direction is met by a series of appointments which, on the surface, would indicate a hard swing in the other direction.

TRANQUILLO

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Another far right outlet parroting white victimhood and ethnic nationalism. Joy.

Baseless rubbish . They haven't even made a broadcast yet but they are guilty until proven innocent in your eyes. Modern life summed up in one prejudiced, dice already loaded, veil slipped, intolerant post.



Even if it does lean to right what's the problem with that? its not illegal ? The market will decide if the channel is a success.

John Doe1

Andrew Neil is a great presenter but the Murdoch thing is a bit concerning.

Anything which doesnt bow down to the far left vocal minority is good to me.

I say that as someone who holds liberal views and considered myself left wing before the lunatics took over the asylum in about 2013.

Aidric

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

No it isn't. He has rejected this claim himself.

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1309553308055539712?s=19

OK. Case closed :rolleyes:

McFly85

Ugh, another 24 hour “news” channel, the last thing we need. They shouldn’t even be allowed to call themselves that. It’s 90% opinion from people with agendas.

RWCNT

suicide_circus wrote: »

So very similar to the electorate's assessment of him then?

Any chance the electorate's assessment might have been somewhat influenced by the constant negative coverage?