Beef price tracker 2

memorystick

What are FR bullocks worth? Os and Ps of mixed weight. Thinking of buying meal after the June weekend. Plenty of grass and thriving well but grass will only do so much.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119088893#Comment_119088893

Rhere is rumours of 5/kg flat. I am feeding 20 at present I started after the B/H weekend. If you got 5/kg of a base O= are 5.02, O- are 4.92 and P are 4.7/kg. I saw a 660kg FR bullock O- I say make 1750 yesterday in Listowel.

Cavanjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119088893#Comment_119088893

The beef plan group are giving €5.11 for p’s and €5.27 for O- friesian’s. I presume that is in Donegal.

DBK1

€5.20-€5.25 base price to be got for heifers around here next week anyway.

Our local spot wer put to the pin of their collar over a load of fr blks this week and gave 540 flat for them.

480 freely going for p grade cows.

510 for r cows.

390 for coloured stock bulls.

cute geoge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119092066#Comment_119092066

Them prices seem to be a bit above what an ordinary joe got last week .I got 4.70 for a load of o/p cows

Lime Tree Farm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119092094#Comment_119092094

Amazing. Sold a 12 yr old few weeks ago - bad feet - got €1550 - €2/kg

At your rate she would have fetched 2k in the factory. 425 DW, O+4-

Lime Tree Farm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119093111#Comment_119093111

765 kg limousin.

Albert Johnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119093163#Comment_119093163

At that weight with bad feet she'd hardly kill 425kg DW???

Lime Tree Farm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119093172#Comment_119093172

I'm going by the icbf Suckler cow report, her DAM is still on the farm. I thought she would have graded better than O, very large frame.

epfff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119093163#Comment_119093163

Who were you getting to adjust/tamper with the scales to get a 765kg 12 year old cow to kill out over 400kgs?

tanko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119092329#Comment_119092329

How many weeks between you selling her and the buyer getting her killed?

Lime Tree Farm

J...s, I'm sorry I posted now. I know it's an exceptional year, I just thought how easy it was to buy in the mart and factory about 3-4 weeks later and make that profit. All I have to say she looked well, we were very pleased she did well at the mart. She owed us nothing, Malibu Sire. I don't do factory and was hoping for an explanation of what O+4- reflected.

leoch

Is it 50 or 70 days u must keep them in ur herd before u kill in factory for quality assurance ???

HHH

31 days if you buy from a QA Herd. 71 days from a non QA Herd.

Lime Tree Farm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119093656#Comment_119093656

The last photo taken of her on the farm was 2nd April 2022. And I gather from being on here you don't QA cows

DBK1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119093172#Comment_119093172

If she was 765kgs in the mart she would have been well over 800kg, maybe somewhere near 820kgs, fresh weight in the yard. She’d have been a bad cow for a limousine not to kill out above 400kgs dw after that.

DBK1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119093636#Comment_119093636

Don’t be sorry for posting it at all Lime Tree. Your cow killed out exactly what the man buying her in the mart expected her to kill out at I’d say. Unfortunately you probably lost out compared to bringing her to the factory yourself.

I’ve been trying to illustrate the difference in kill outs from mart weight to yard weights for a while here now and what you’re after seeing is exactly what’s happening in marts every day of the week.

As I’ve said a few times, the men buying the heavy factory fit stock know their figures, they know what an animal will kill out at based on the mart weight and they know what to then pay for them and I can assure you 90% of the time they’re not paying above the factory prices. Lads thinking €2000 is a great price for 650kg mart weight animals don’t realise the man buying them will have them killed into €2,150-€2,200 in a few days time.

Albert Johnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119093726#Comment_119093726

You could be right but I'd have thought a stiff sort of a cow wouldn't break any records for killout percentages. Also it would be a good man a month ago would predict how the beef trade would keep increasing day by day. There was cow's sold at Patrick's day looked a great price that would make €100's more today at the same weights. All factory fit or forward store cattle seem to be dearer by the hour atm.

cute geoge

Like I said 4.70 for cows was a massive price but how many more weeks in it before you see cows coming off the grass because I might have a few more .It cant really increase much more I feel and it has only one way to go now

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119093802#Comment_119093802

If it stops rising now, it's going to be a problem.

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cute geoge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119093809#Comment_119093809

why that ?

There is massive demand from uk but once they start rolling in off the grass that will be the pinch point

Lime Tree Farm

It'll be all duck or no dinner.

https://evoke.ie/2022/05/16/news/rising-costs-forcing-steak-off-the-menu-says-celebrity-chef-dylan-mcgrath

tanko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119093636#Comment_119093636

That’s how cattle dealers and auctioneers are able to buy a new landcruiser every two years. I sold a Cow in Ballyjamesduff mart years ago for €1300, two hours after she walked out of the ring she was hanging up in Liffey meats a mile up the road. She made €1500 there, this information came up by mistake on the slaughter report on my ICBF report a few days later, it disappeared after. I felt like a right fool, the useless crook of an auctioneer along with his dealer buddy did me like a kipper. He’s still selling in several marts in Cavan, Leitrim and other places, a nasty piece of work.

At 4- for fat your cow had good flesh but lacked shape, it takes a very well shaped cow to grade U in a factory, most continental Suckler cows will grade R.

kk.man

Cattle lose weight rapid in a mart especially if there for a few hours. Watch the dealers in kk they mostly buy in the afternoon but sell the same cattle before noon easily up 40kgs never mind what bids their buddies have added to the mix. 40 kgs is 100e guaranteed.

Good loser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119094801#Comment_119094801

Have no actual figures of my own but do not think your 40 kgs stacks up. Most cattle in the mart are quiet and settled. The amount of piss/s*

they pass is quite small. I suppose the length and roughness of the journey is very important. I sold stock last week, collected at 11, sold at 2.

Definitely didn't look empty in the ring.

mr.stonewall

Cattle pulled fresh off the field or out of a shed will lose a fair bit of weight even standing around in a yard as they empty out. Had an example of this happen last year. Went down with TB and had a few nearly finished fr bullocks that were reactors. The valuer was due at a certain time so I said I would get them in half an hour before the due time and run them over the scales. He got delayed and was over an hour late. When they went over the scales they had dropped approx 25-40kg. This was in my own yard, no stress, was just on wee and poo. Weather was cloudy and dry lovely temp of around 15c. Same scales so the variables are eliminated

It goes to show what water goes thru cattle. Add in the stress of a trailer journey and standing around a new surroundings of a mart. It's very easy to see how there can be such a weight drop. Just look at the steam off of weanling at the sales in the backend of the year. Every little bit is drooping of the animal, what worse is the weanling fresh off the cow.

Just my 2 cents of this in a controlled situation

dh1985

Exactly. A weanling would lose 20-30kg in a normal mart over 3-4hours. A cow would surely lose more.

Grueller

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119095058#Comment_119095058

Ever carry a bucket of cow sh1t?

kk.man

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119095058#Comment_119095058

I was actually been conservative, cattle loaded at 6am, journey, put thru the mart crush and standing around till 2pm or longer. Did you ever see the shite on the mart floor in the evening after a morning sale....