Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Beef price tracker 2

1121122124126127223

Comments

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    You have to be prepared to mix and match to a certain extent. It's grand going in and picking out I'm going to buy X,Y and Z but it becomes an expensive undertaking most of the time. You're only codding yourself if you expect to buy every one of them cheap but if you got a bit of value this time you could stomach giving a bit more than anticipated for the next one to put with them and average it out.

    The biggest disaster of all in a way is buying the first one at very right money especially if you're looking to buy another few. You spend the rest of the sale comparing everything to you're first purchase and will probably leave things after you that weren't that bad of value upon reflection but paled in comparison to what you'd already bought. That's not to say you should give a rob for the first one but hitting the jackpot right away isn't always the business either.

    A local man who buys a lot of cattle for jobs would always comment upon the hammer falling to you for something looking good value that "he's as good as buying 2". That was grand until you put you're hand out for something else and he enquired whether you wanted them all today and somehow they never ended up as cheap after that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,362 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I know what you mean. A few weeks back a bunch I was the highest bidder on was pulled by the owner, he wanted 50 more I was willing to come 30 more. I was sorry I did not give it the following day. However it probably was no harm as it pointed out to the mart that I will only go far.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    I showed bullocks in a mart I don't usually frequent the week of the Galway races (a real bus man's holiday and I wouldn't know anything about the races, all Irelands ect being on only for others talking about them as I'm useless that way). Cattle had taken a bit of a hit at the time but I got on as well as I expected and it didn't work out too bad. The last bullock of mine into the ring finished at €1370 and he was part of a few that I hoped to average over €1400 for which I had achieved as he was the lowest priced one. When the auctioneer turned around I enquired as to him trying whoever was the highest bidder for €1400. His exact words were "it's well and truly over at that and he's either on or off at it". The man probably had a point and I told him to hammer the bullock at it.

    I decided to take advantage of a slack day to buy a few replacements and the weanling trade wasn't that exciting either. I pulled in around the ring and had 4 bought handy enough after the first few pens. There was a man with a pen full of good CH weanlings around 350-450kg and he missed every one of them. The last one in was 290kg of a real good golden one and I wound up the highest bidder at €970 (I wouldn't usually venture that high but he looked right value enough and I watched 260kg of hardly as good a one make €1000 today at work). The auctioneer challenged me for €1000 for the hammer. I shook my head and said not a chance, in fairness he didn't push it any further and I wasn't anyway insulted but it was no harm to lay down the marker either especially after earlier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭leoch


    How fo u mean.....

    .he missed everyone of them.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,273 ✭✭✭amacca


    Good advice so long as its not too predictable...I used to move around the back if I was in the mart so I wasn't a sitting duck/they couldn't get a bead on me, try to position myself directly behind them up the back but beside lads .....it irritated the shite out of some of them that they had to keep turning around looking back to see who was bidding against them...then theyd get a spotter😅...so drop out for a while ..drop back in (try time that with stuff you dont want if youve looked at the lots beforehand..I'd also get in early at low money on stuff I wasn't interested in and drop out as randomly as possible ...then not bid on certain lots if they were similar to what I had been buying (sacrifice a good lot or two/or the lesser of a type)...basically try not let them see a pattern....

    Occasionally try leave them with an expensive one....but that's a dangerous game with more risk for me than when they are working with each other.



  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    He didn't sell any of them. He wasn't really getting enough for the heavier ones to be fair and they'd probably make another €100-€150 more apiece atm but that was a month ago and it wasn't easy to know it then either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭Aly Daly


    The ring man in the large kerry mart on lsl that some have referred to as good I would not agree,not a stock man always tapping cattle between the ears,unnecessary hard smacks to big animals that are not given time to react,poking calves at foot,not nice and totally unnecessary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,362 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I. Ever watch the calves. However if you are buying cattle because of his actions and the camera you get a good view of the cattle, better that any other mart I know

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    4.60 base price today off Larry...got 20c QA bonus and 15c breed bonus on a load of HEX....

    Possibly 5c increase next week....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭HHH



    Where are these rates available??

    €4.60 this week in the midlands. Even with QA & potential herd bonus it's nowhere near €5 flat.

    And they say the're full with cattle!

    Is it purely to feed lots or what's going on?



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭nearlybreak


    Hear 4.70 even 5 cent more around for bullocks for next week seems the poor factories are under fierce pressure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Fine Day


    No wonder lads are gone silly in the marts giving mad money for cattle with Agriland putting stuff like that on there site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭grange mac


    They are some shower... With weather poor in July and Aug they took to dropping prices weekly and now weather picks up and prices doing rapid u turn... Like where is tootlless regulator in all this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,362 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The kill is only 1200 behind but that is not the real story. Steers are back 1200 and heifers are back 400 with you g bulls static. The drop in the kill is young cattle and it will probably sharing further.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,362 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Well was my assessment fairly right now. Like I said there is more than one fact to check

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭KAMG


    Hard to tell yet. Sure, the price drops from over the summer have certainly stopped. For now anyway. As far as I can see its still 4.60 to 4.65 for bullocks. Which is the same price as a month ago. But, the kill is still between 33 and 35 thousand. What happens when the annual kill increase kicks in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭nearlybreak


    4.70/5 freely available next week for a load of cattle



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭White Clover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭nearlybreak


    All factories I’d say heard it from a good few lads agents giving free transport and all the extras things having turned a lot in the last ten days for the farmer it seems just have to be tough with the ****



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭nearlybreak


    Northern lads are gone very active in d Marts again which is a massive sign



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Free transport! That one has been around donkeys years. Easy make that back by dropping the DW on yer slip by a few kgs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    Goldman base last 3 weeks 4.55 for Fresians. Don't know if the base is higher for other breeds.Hard to see 4.70 next week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    Typo although the word might be correct it should have read Goodman



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    I'd they wanted they could do that when there is no free transport as well for an extra bonus. Your at the mercy of a computer grader.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Up 10cent next week by the look of things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭nearlybreak


    10/15 centfactories under serious pressure it’s so lovely to see 💪🏾



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭nearlybreak


    Room for more next week tough. Don’t let them win



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭kk.man


    They cut too hard too fast in this country...greed is a terrible thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Weather changing back to normal after tomorrow, hopefully holds middling good, or the factory might get a glut of grass cattle.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Theres alot of shìte going around about price rises....wheres the proof?

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



Advertisement