Beef price tracker 2

downtown3858

locha wrote: »

For the first time in years I got a load off at a flat price. Underage steers. Os no Rs. 4.30 flat. Factory would never have entertained a flat price previously and I have tried.

What factory is that

Hershall

Bass Reeves wrote: »

With the way the spring is there will not be a lot of cattle coming off grass for 8-10weeks

Have continental bks here they will need about 7 weeks of meal feeding in order to go early july and hope the price holds.

Bass Reeves

Jjameson wrote: »

Well done, no beating that on a lucky machine grader.

What did you do with yours Jj

tanko

What are R grade cows making?

DukeCaboom

tanko wrote: »

What are R grade cows making?

370

Base price

AIBP are to buy out Slaney, ICM and Linden foods - I wonder what the competition authority have to say about that :rolleyes:
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/abp-to-take-over-remainder-of-slaney-icm-and-linden-620346

wrangler

Base price wrote: »

AIBP are to buy out Slaney, ICM and Linden foods - I wonder what the competition authority have to say about that :rolleyes:
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/abp-to-take-over-remainder-of-slaney-icm-and-linden-620346

I think they own 40% already so the fighting is over

Danzy

Base price wrote: »

AIBP are to buy out Slaney, ICM and Linden foods - I wonder what the competition authority have to say about that :rolleyes:
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/abp-to-take-over-remainder-of-slaney-icm-and-linden-620346

Whatever Massa wants them to say.

weatherbyfoxer

anyone here any quotes for next week?

DBK1

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

anyone here any quotes for next week?

Heifers in the midlands still at €4.15 for next Tuesday morning anyway.

T0001

€4.10 for bullocks this week in the local factory. Half tempted to send a few. Have 5 600-640kgs, weighed during the week. Plenty of room in them if I wanted to feed on but it comes at the risk of the price in the summer dropping. With QA they'd be hitting €4.30 with 2 probably O+. Any thoughts? Main thing I'd be thinking is fat score but they seem fairly okay.

I remember back in 2019 I killed half the stock in June and the other half in October and found that I was done ave €40/head compared to if I had sent them in June owing to the price drop.

cute geoge

If I had plenty of grass I would not panic yet ,your weights are pretty poor ,prices wont drop big that fast hopefully .I would be inclined to give them a dust of meal at them weights you have ,what breed have you ?unless aa I would be holding tough anyway

Cavanjack

T0001 wrote: »

€4.10 for bullocks this week in the local factory. Half tempted to send a few. Have 5 600-640kgs, weighed during the week. Plenty of room in them if I wanted to feed on but it comes at the risk of the price in the summer dropping. With QA they'd be hitting €4.30 with 2 probably O+. Any thoughts? Main thing I'd be thinking is fat score but they seem fairly okay.

I remember back in 2019 I killed half the stock in June and the other half in October and found that I was done ave €40/head compared to if I had sent them in June owing to the price drop.

Are they fat?

Bass Reeves

T0001 wrote: »

€4.10 for bullocks this week in the local factory. Half tempted to send a few. Have 5 600-640kgs, weighed during the week. Plenty of room in them if I wanted to feed on but it comes at the risk of the price in the summer dropping. With QA they'd be hitting €4.30 with 2 probably O+. Any thoughts? Main thing I'd be thinking is fat score but they seem fairly okay.

I remember back in 2019 I killed half the stock in June and the other half in October and found that I was done ave €40/head compared to if I had sent them in June owing to the price drop.

What breed are they

DukeCaboom

Killed my first load this week. Weights were fine but killing off grass in May they never kill more than they look like later in the year.

jntsnk

DukeCaboom wrote: »

Killed my first load this week. Weights were fine but killing off grass in May they never kill more than they look like later in the year.

Went to mart last week with 20. Reckoned they’d do better than going to factory as they didn’t seemed fit with only May here yet, grass only feed

weatherbyfoxer

load of fr bullocks booked for next week 4.10 base with 3.85 cut off..think its as good as going?

MIKEKC

Jjameson wrote: »

There’s flat rates for o grade type underage of I what can only assume 4.10(based on what I know was going in relation base price a few weeks ago) going with independent places. Takes the trapdoors out of it.. p grades 4+ 5 fat score namely.

What would be the percentage kill out for 675kg fresian bullocks. Just read article that said 55%. Thought that would be a bit high

MIKEKC

Jjameson wrote: »

From 46% for extreme types to 52% for really good proper square lads. Really good Frisian bulls could do 55% but unlikely for bullocks if really friesians.

I work on 50% for middle of road type well finished.

That's what I go by maybe they meant bulls but article didn't say that

Bass Reeves

MIKEKC wrote: »

That's what I go by maybe they meant bulls but article didn't say that

I have seldom seen Friesian bulls kill more than 51/52%. They keep growing so it virtually impossible to get them into a high fat score. Maybe 10+ year ago when you could carry them to 30 months but sub 24 nearly impossible. As well with present ration prices as fast as they come into 2+/3- you should be offloading

mr.stonewall

Flat money on the Friesans is the only way to go at the moment. Safety as you are dealing with o's and p's. The variability of getting QA and the pinch of the grid with p's, hit the price per kg hard at this end of the scale. Shouldn't be hard to get 4.10 to 4.15 flat

Bass Reeves

mr.stonewall wrote: »

Flat money on the Friesans is the only way to go at the moment. Safety as you are dealing with o's and p's. The variability of getting QA and the pinch of the grid with p's, hit the price per kg hard at this end of the scale. Shouldn't be hard to get 4.10 to 4.15 flat

Friesians grading P+ are only making cow prices, it much the same with O- grading Fr that are over 30 months. As well there is the other traps the 4= grade which deducts an extra 6 cent all the way down from O= grading cattle. Add in that 2+ fat grading cattle get the base in R grading cattle but get hit with a 6 cent penalty on O grading cattle.

RobinBanks

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

load of fr bullocks booked for next week 4.10 base with 3.85 cut off..think its as good as going?

Would you know base price for fr bulls? I have a teaser bull approx 650kg that will be going soon.

Bass Reeves

RobinBanks wrote: »

Would you know base price for fr bulls? I have a teaser bull approx 650kg that will be going soon.

Teaser's can often struggle with FS. As well if they are over 24 months they have limited markets.

Albert Johnson

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Teaser's can often struggle with FS. As well if they are over 24 months they have limited markets.

I'd vote for the mart over factory in those cases, especially if it's only a one off. Anything fleshy in the cull ring is in demand atm for immediate slaughter.

Anto_Meath

The on line aspect seems to have put a floor under the price of beef animals in the Mart. If a factory needs a load of beef they can pick it up handy in the Mart, flesh cows and AAx Hex cattle I would guess are making a shade above what they would kill into at the factory this last few weeks. It's good to see it and long may it last. I know a northern factory is buying a lot of cattle in the local mart for direct slaughter.

DBK1

I rang agent to book heifers in for Monday morning. He tells me heifers are dropping 5 cent to €4.10. Bullocks unchanged so still at €4.10 as well. Anyone else hearing this elsewhere around the country? Midlands here.

Good loser

Do Cahir or the Waterford plants pay flat rate?

MfMan

A pull of a shilling on the cards?

Bass Reeves

MfMan wrote: »

A pull of a shilling on the cards?

They will be at this tactic for the next month or two. It mainly to stop prices rising. At present they are trying to flush out any cows they can. As well they will be trying to encourage cattle off of grass. There is very little cattle in sheds by lads without contracts.

The tactic is to force out cattle. However remember cattle are thriving and any one going in out to if spec could lose multiples of 5c.