Apple Watch - what am I missing?

splashthecash

I got myself an Apple Watch (S5) a few months back - did loads of research and finally went for it. No doubt it is beautifully made but I find myself just not using it as much as I thought I would be in y daily routine.

To be completely honest, aside from telling me the time I dont use it for much else. I very occasionally use the app for recording a run if my Garmin ForeRunner's battery is dead (and the Garmin is a much more powerful watch for running).

I don't have a Spotify or Apple Music account so streaming music via these isn't really an option for me, and I find the syncing of podcasts across very clumbersome.

I'm thinking of just selling it - disappointed that I'm not getting out of it what I expected to and what everyone else seems to.

Has anyone on here had the same experience?

Creamy Goodness

splashthecash wrote: »

I got myself an Apple Watch (S5) a few months back - did loads of research and finally went for it. No doubt it is beautifully made but I find myself just not using it as much as I thought I would be in y daily routine.

To be completely honest, aside from telling me the time I dont use it for much else. I very occasionally use the app for recording a run if my Garmin ForeRunner's battery is dead (and the Garmin is a much more powerful watch for running).

I don't have a Spotify or Apple Music account so streaming music via these isn't really an option for me, and I find the syncing of podcasts across very clumbersome.

I'm thinking of just selling it - disappointed that I'm not getting out of it what I expected to and what everyone else seems to.

Has anyone on here had the same experience?

What were your expectations to get out of it? Tbh if you asked me would it suit you I would have said no based on the info you mentioned above. Garmin's are a dedicated running watch, the Apple Watch can't won't compete with it. The Apple Watch is a more all-rounder, music/notifications/general fitness. If you don't listen to music and you already have a dedicated watch for fitness then the only real thing left is having Siri on the wrist to send messages or if you have home kit devices turning on lights/fans/blinds etc.

Also remember not every product is for everyone and that's totally ok, do you have a partner who might get some use out of it?

splashthecash

She is a runner too and not a tech follower like myself. I don't know what I was expecting to be honest, just that I would use it more than I am but I am happy to pick up my phone to still do most things that I could do on the watch (weather, mail..)

Thanks

Creamy Goodness

Also I forgot one other thing that I really love my watch for; is Apple Pay, as long as the watch is on my wrist I have a payment method with me at all time. So if I leave my phone (when I go out for walks), and if I need to grab something like a drink or get a text to say "Hey pick up x" I can pay. Doing FaceId with my 11 pro is annoying for Apple Pay with a mask on, I always have to input my Passcode which is an 8+ digit alphanumeric password.

Although dependent on which Garmin you have and who you bank with (KBC have Garmin Pay) you may already have this on your existing watch.

awec

I use mine for reading notifications, recording workouts and payments.

Don't really use any of the other features. Most of the apps are a bit crap on a small screen.

Creamy Goodness

awec wrote: »

Don't really use any of the other features. Most of the apps are a bit crap on a small screen.

Totally agree here, Apps aren't great but some third party complications (that you only get from downloading the apps) are useful. But I could count the amount of time I've used an app on the watch on one hand, it's just a sub-par experience.

Gregor Samsa

Apps are largely pointless, although I do play Space Invaders, Pong and a bowling game when I'm bored. Then there's the handy tools like map directions, Apple Pay, music control and Hive home heating controls. But by and large, apps that do more than just present information or that you have to interact with more than just a tap aren't any use.

Complications and notifications, on the other hand, can be great and make the Apple Watch a useful tool for me. I've two basic faces set up (both Modular) - one for work, one for leisure. Work one has my Outlook calendar in the middle, so I can see what and when my next meeting is, email and world clock set up for the US city my company is based. Then I get Teams and Skype notification coming in, and I get Microsoft Authenticator notifications that allow me to use 2FA to easily log in to certain systems on my work laptop.

Leisure face is tide times for the beach I use, weather info and some workout/exercise stuff.

I'd love there to be a way to automate switching faces based on a time schedule or even geolocation, but it's pretty easy to swipe them into place.

murpho999

I use it for

Workout
Listening to music during workouts.
Shazam (all the time)
Sending messages via Siri whilst driving which is very handy.
Message Notifications.
Apple Pay (which is great nowadays as you don't need faceid for it which is awkward with a mask)
Weather
Heart Rate monitor.


I don't understand why the OP bought it if they intended to use a Garmin for workouts.

There's nothing really on any smartwatch that you couldn't do without unlike with a telephone but for me they're all nice to have and a nice extra to have.

I think they'll also become more useful as more and more heath features come onto it..

ablelocks

i use mine for reminders/notifications/siri/walks & workouts tracking


but picking up some useful tips from the rest of ye!

loinnsigh

Top uses for mine:

Running / cycling / Workouts (Strava - no need to have phone with you)
Podcasts while working out (no need to have phone with you)
Silent alarm (doesn't wake the wife when I get up at 4am)
Apple Pay
Calendar alerts
Timers (hey siri set a timer for 3 mins - very handy when cooking)

Keano

I find mine handy for putting my phone away and I just read notifications on my watch.

keith_d99

Pee torch ... navigating your way to the toilet during the night!

dashoonage

making peasants jealous of your obvious greater social status.

IrishHomer

ablelocks wrote: »

i use mine for reminders/notifications/siri/walks & workouts tracking


but picking up some useful tips from the rest of ye!

I use my phone for same

murpho999

IrishHomer wrote: »

I use my phone for same

Yes but doing exercise, particularly running without your phone is much better.

Cerco

How effective/ accurate is the heart rate monitor on Apple watches?
Is it easily viewed while jogging etc.?

awec

Cerco wrote: »

How effective/ accurate is the heart rate monitor on Apple watches?
Is it easily viewed while jogging etc.?

Every time you do a workout in the Workout app (where you'd track your runs etc) it will constantly monitor your heartrate and it's always shown on screen. On the later watches I think the accuracy is pretty good, at least for a wrist monitor.

Outside of workouts it's only sporadically checked I think.

drogon.

Cerco wrote: »

How effective/ accurate is the heart rate monitor on Apple watches?

Worth a read https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204666

For best results
Start with a good fit. Even under ideal conditions, Apple Watch may not be able to get a reliable heart rate reading every time for everybody. And for a small percentage of users, various factors may make it impossible to get any heart rate reading at all. But there are things you can do to help Apple Watch get the most consistent and best heart rate readings possible. Learn what else affects your reading.

IrishHomer

murpho999 wrote: »

Yes but doing exercise, particularly running without your phone is much better.

Cool.

I was thinking of getting one but just realised I'm 50yrs old and recently my eyesight is dreadful I'd never be able to see text on such a small screen unless I had reading glasses on.

murpho999

IrishHomer wrote: »

Cool.

I was thinking of getting one but just realised I'm 50yrs old and recently my eyesight is dreadful I'd never be able to see text on such a small screen unless I had reading glasses on.

Yes but I find I don't really read stuff on phone whilst exercising. It's more for recording.

Dades

I've been toying with the idea of a smartwatch since I took up running in lockdown.

Requirements:

- Track runs in Strava/MapMyRide
- Listen to Podcasts on the go (don't mind about syncing them over wifi).

Basically, I want to leave the iPhone XR at home because it's too bloody big to run with.

The new Watch SE looks very tempting. In the smaller size too which I'd prefer.

Also, what's the story with the cellular option? I do not know how that works!

Thanks!

drogon.

Dades wrote: »

Also, what's the story with the cellular option? I do not know how that works!

We have no network providers that support esim, so you are out of luck for the moment. But this could change in the future.

Creamy Goodness

Dades wrote: »

I've been toying with the idea of a smartwatch since I took up running in lockdown.

Requirements:

- Track runs in Strava/MapMyRide
- Listen to Podcasts on the go (don't mind about syncing them over wifi).

Basically, I want to leave the iPhone XR at home because it's too bloody big to run with.

The new Watch SE looks very tempting. In the smaller size too which I'd prefer.

Also, what's the story with the cellular option? I do not know how that works!

Thanks!

Not sure on Strava/MapMyRide stuff.

Podcasts can sync over using the podcast app or some of the third party apps like overcast, pocket casts, Castro etc.

Cellular option is not sold in Ireland as none of our carriers support eSim functionality which the cellular models require. how this works is the watch has it's own phone number but if it's out of bluetooth range of your phone it forwards the call to your watch, if your watch is within range of wifi/phone it basically shuts off the cellular radio. it's quite eloquent how they do it but useless for us right now unfortunately.

Marty Bird

Dades wrote: »

I've been toying with the idea of a smartwatch since I took up running in lockdown.

Requirements:

- Track runs in Strava/MapMyRide

I haven’t had a AW since the S4 but yes it good for Strava works perfectly with AW. Don’t use mmr as Strava does all that too.

fasterbetter

I'm using Strava on apple watch for about 2 years and also use it to listen to podcasts and music while running... works great and is much more comfortable than having to have a phone with you all the time....only thing is you will need wireless ear buds of some sort

rizzee

Dades wrote: »

I've been toying with the idea of a smartwatch since I took up running in lockdown.

Requirements:

- Track runs in Strava/MapMyRide
- Listen to Podcasts on the go (don't mind about syncing them over wifi).

Garmin 645 Music for €245 in argos currently.

Garmin pay (NFC - works with Revolut), physical buttons (no sweaty hands on a touchscreen during a run), much longer battery life than any Apple watch on the market, supports music (dedicated Spotify, deezer and other apps, also can't click and drag music via pc), much better fitness interface/reports. Not trying to diss any Apple watches at all, but the above definitely fits the bill and leaves you with money in the pocket.

OMM 0000

dashoonage wrote: »

making peasants jealous of your obvious greater social status.

I know you're joking, but I do find this sort of thing funny. Apple Watches are cheap and disposable. I guess it shows how elitist the watch industry has become that the average person has no idea what a luxury watch looks like, costs, and how long they last. For example, I'm currently wearing an Omega (made in 1956) which looks like new and has increased in value over time.

murpho999

rizzee wrote: »

Garmin 645 Music for €245 in argos currently.

Garmin pay (NFC - works with Revolut), physical buttons (no sweaty hands on a touchscreen during a run), much longer battery life than any Apple watch on the market, supports music (dedicated Spotify, deezer and other apps, also can't click and drag music via pc), much better fitness interface/reports. Not trying to diss any Apple watches at all, but the above definitely fits the bill and leaves you with money in the pocket.

Seriously sweaty hands on a touchscreen? That really is not a problem as you're only using your fingertip.
I find the lack of confusing butt
ons on the watch to be a benefit.
Garmins are good but Apple Watch is best smartwatch out there and it can do lots of things and fits in perfectly with your other apps.

rizzee

murpho999 wrote: »

Seriously sweaty hands on a touchscreen? That really is not a problem as you're only using your fingertip.
I find the lack of confusing butt
ons on the watch to be a benefit.
Garmins are good but Apple Watch is best smartwatch out there and it can do lots of things and fits in perfectly with your other apps.

Physical buttons are easier to use on runs. There's no debate on this.

Garmins are better for running, which is part of what the user above posted.

Marty Bird

rizzee wrote: »

Physical buttons are easier to use on runs. There's no debate on this.

Garmins are better for running, which is part of what the user above posted.

I’d have to agree I’ve 945 and it’s lot easier as outlined above compared to the AW.

murpho999

rizzee wrote: »

Physical buttons are easier to use on runs. There's no debate on this.

Garmins are better for running, which is part of what the user above posted.

Well I would disagree so there is a debate on it as it's just your opinion.

When I run I press start and then stop at the end. All very easy. I don't see why you need to press lots of buttons whilst running.

drogon.

rizzee wrote: »

Physical buttons are easier to use on runs. There's no debate on this.

Garmins are better for running, which is part of what the user above posted.

Or you could just ask Siri to start and end it for you, just press the Digital Crown to activate siri and tell it to start a workout.

rizzee

drogon. wrote: »

Or you could just ask Siri to start and end it for you, just press the Digital Crown to activate siri and tell it to start a workout.

So pressing a button then

Anyway, at risk of derailing the thread, best of luck OP. Plenty of options out there.

murpho999

rizzee wrote: »

So pressing a button then

Anyway, at risk of derailing the thread, best of luck OP. Plenty of options out there.

Yes but it's only one button. So easy.

The thing is both watches are good for running and it comes down to personal preference but I personally don't see any advantages in a watch having multiple buttons they generally have confusing functionality that can change within different menus.

drogon.

rizzee wrote: »

So pressing a button then

Anyway, at risk of derailing the thread, best of luck OP. Plenty of options out there.

Actually you don't even need to press a button
Just raise the watch and ask Siri

Dades

Thanks for the responses, all.

rizzee wrote: »

Garmin 645 Music for €245 in argos currently.

Garmin pay (NFC - works with Revolut), physical buttons (no sweaty hands on a touchscreen during a run), much longer battery life than any Apple watch on the market, supports music (dedicated Spotify, deezer and other apps, also can't click and drag music via pc), much better fitness interface/reports. Not trying to diss any Apple watches at all, but the above definitely fits the bill and leaves you with money in the pocket.

I'm kinda invested in the Apple ecosystem tbh (inc Airpods)! I only really listen to my subscribed podcasts when out, and the idea of loading music onto a device seems a bit retro. I might also wear the 40mm watch a bit more than a chunky dedicated sports watch.

Interesting that cellular is not supported. I couldn't figure out why that wasn't an option in the Irish store.

murpho999

Dades wrote: »

Thanks for the responses, all.

I'm kinda invested in the Apple ecosystem tbh (inc Airpods)! I only really listen to my subscribed podcasts when out, and the idea of loading music onto a device seems a bit retro. I might also wear the 40mm watch a bit more than a chunky dedicated sports watch.

Interesting that cellular is not supported. I couldn't figure out why that wasn't an option in the Irish store.

You also load music on to your watch but via your phone Watch app. Easy enough but you will not have full access to your music library when using watch without your phone.
One of the drawbacks of not having cellular.

That being said it's quick and easy process just go Music in watch app and select what you want. Playlsts can be added too.

Podcasts is the same.

Never been a problem for me.

CptMackey

Question is a new se a better buy or a second hand series 5?

Don't currently have a Apple watch

drogon.

CptMackey wrote: »

Question is a new se a better buy or a second hand series 5?

Don't currently have a Apple watch

SE is the exact same as the S5, minus ECG and always on display. Has the same processor and all if I recall correctly.
So depends if those features are important to you.

naasrd

For me there are 2 types of people, ones who drink whiskey with coke, others neat or on the rocks. Same with steak, there’s the well done guy and the medium rare guy. Guess which one wears an Apple Watch?

CptMackey

drogon. wrote: »

SE is the exact same as the S5, minus ECG and always on display. Has the same processor and all if I recall correctly.
So depends if those features are important to you.

Ok. Not sure the ECG is a big issue for me. Always on display might be handy tho. Food for thought

drogon.

CptMackey wrote: »

Ok. Not sure the ECG is a big issue for me. Always on display might be handy tho. Food for thought

Yup - Also remember, you can just raise to wake the watch

Also if buying second hand, you don't know how the previous owner took care of it and lack of warranty etc.

CptMackey

drogon. wrote: »

Yup - Also remember, you can just raise to wake the watch

Also if buying second hand, you don't know how the previous owner took care of it and lack of warranty etc.

Ya that is always off putting buying second hand for any tech

DelBoy Trotter

drogon. wrote: »

Yup - Also remember, you can just raise to wake the watch

Also if buying second hand, you don't know how the previous owner took care of it and lack of warranty etc.

I upgraded from a Series 3 to a Series 5 last year. Within a couple of days I had turned off the always on display, mainly due to saving the battery life. But I just have no need for it to be on the whole time. If I was in your position CptMackey, I’d buy the SE

Dades

naasrd wrote: »

For me there are 2 types of people, ones who drink whiskey with coke, others neat or on the rocks. Same with steak, there’s the well done guy and the medium rare guy. Guess which one wears an Apple Watch?

OMM 0000

naasrd wrote: »

For me there are 2 types of people, ones who drink whiskey with coke, others neat or on the rocks. Same with steak, there’s the well done guy and the medium rare guy. Guess which one wears an Apple Watch?

I understand what you're getting at, but I think there are levels of this.

For example, let's talk about Omega. Their marketing (loads of 007 type stuff) is aimed at fantasists who think they're special. So this would be school teachers and engineers who think they're being classy by wearing a modern Seamaster but actually they're just deluded. On the other hand, someone who wears a classic Omega (e.g. Constellation from the 1950s) is probably a bit more sophisticated and prefers understated traditional watches. But go to omegaforums.com and notice these people tend to be utter cúnts. Certainly a lot less likeable than Apple Watch wearers.

I think the average Apple Watch wearer knows almost nothing about the history of watches, doesn't care about the history of watches, and probably isn't the most sophisticated person. But that's fine. We know from psychology that about 80% of the population are considered "Guardians" (there are multiple terms you can swap in here). These are people who generally go with the flow, are easy to manipulate, and would be your typical Jack and Coke type of person. We need these people. Without them society becomes unstable (we can't have a society full of mavericks and artists) so instead of looking down on Apple Watch folk, you should be grateful they exist.

Personally I can't see the point of an Apple Watch and I think modern Omegas are an embarrassment.

Note I've had a few beers.

Creamy Goodness

Can we not just let people enjoy things? like who cares if you wear a $20 Casio, a $100 Vostok, a $200 Seiko, a $400 Apple Watch, a $5k Omega/JLC, a $10k Rolex or a $50k AP/Patek/VC/FP Journe/etc.

What's kind of humorous is I frequent the Watch forum here on boards and do have an Apple Watch and an 2000's Seamaster professional (sans 007 marks) both get the same amount of love in the forum as they don't care about it for the most part.

OMM 0000

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Can we people just not enjoy things? like who cares if you wear a $20 Casio, a $100 Vostok, a $200 Seiko, a $400 Apple Watch, a $5k Omega/JLC, a $10k Rolex or a $50k AP/Patek/VC/FP Journe/etc.

Nothing wrong with enjoying an Apple Watch. Overthinking watches is just a little mind game and not to be taken too seriously.

Creamy Goodness

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Nothing wrong with enjoying an Apple Watch. Overthinking watches is just a little mind game and not to be taken too seriously.

Why play mind games though, it just smacks of childish behaviour

OMM 0000

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Why play mind games though, it just smacks out childish behaviour

No, it's the opposite of that. Thinking things through and coming up with theories is something we should all do. It helps us think and understand the world beyond a shallow level. Most great philosophy came from mind games.

peter4918

OMM 0000 wrote: »

I understand what you're getting at, but I think there are levels of this.

For example, let's talk about Omega. Their marketing (loads of 007 type stuff) is aimed at fantasists who think they're special. So this would be school teachers and engineers who think they're being classy by wearing a modern Seamaster but actually they're just deluded. On the other hand, someone who wears a classic Omega (e.g. Constellation from the 1950s) is probably a bit more sophisticated and prefers understated traditional watches. But go to omegaforums.com and notice these people tend to be utter cúnts. Certainly a lot less likeable than Apple Watch wearers.

I think the average Apple Watch wearer knows almost nothing about the history of watches, doesn't care about the history of watches, and probably isn't the most sophisticated person. But that's fine. We know from psychology that about 80% of the population are considered "Guardians" (there are multiple terms you can swap in here). These are people who generally go with the flow, are easy to manipulate, and would be your typical Jack and Coke type of person. We need these people. Without them society becomes unstable (we can't have a society full of mavericks and artists) so instead of looking down on Apple Watch folk, you should be grateful they exist.

Personally I can't see the point of an Apple Watch and I think modern Omegas are an embarrassment.

Note I've had a few beers.

What a load of absolute rubbish, beers or not. Although I think a persons watch preference or the way they drink JD maybe the least of your problems