What were they doing when..............

Jonybgud

As the title suggests I wonder what exactly was going on when people first discovered oysters are edible?

Who's idea was it to make cheese out of animals milk and what exactly were they trying to do?

What else?

dxhound2005

Google.

Jonybgud

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Google.

Very lazy, could do much better....

JasonStatham

I want to know what they were doing when they decided to create boards.ie. what on earth where they doing haha.

Smee_Again

JasonStatham wrote: »

I want to know what they were doing when they decided to create boards.ie. what on earth where they doing haha.

Playing Quake or Doom or some similar game.

JohnnyFlash

They discovered monkfish tasted delicious. And did the brave soul who first tried then lie to his community about how good it tasted so he could keep it all for himself?

‘Absolutely fücking disgusting, lads. Stick to the porridge’.

Jonybgud

Who discovered there was a safe line in the Fugu fish...........

Eat this side, die if you eat this side....

Surreptitious

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

They discovered monkfish tasted delicious. And did the brave soul who first tried then lie to his community about how good it tasted so he could keep it all for himself?

‘Absolutely fücking disgusting, lads. Stick to the porridge’.

Their mouths are infested with lice a head chef told me. They still taste good though when prepped and cooked.

gogo

Jonybgud wrote: »

Who discovered there was a safe line in the Fugu fish...........

Eat this side, die if you eat this side....

Two brothers, may the older one rest in piece

Tilikum17

Jonybgud wrote: »

As the title suggests I wonder what exactly was going on when people first discovered oysters are edible?

Who's idea was it to make cheese out of animals milk and what exactly were they trying to do?

What else?

You’ve no problem with them drinking the milk from another species tit, just that the decided to make cheese out it.

Interesting.

Jonybgud

Tilikum17 wrote: »

You’ve no problem with them drinking the milk from another species tit, just that the decided to make cheese out it.

Interesting.

Inter-species suckling isn't that uncommon, processing the product is.

Your Face

Jonybgud wrote: »

Who's idea was it to make cheese out of animals milk and what exactly were they trying to do?

I always found the logic behind this allusion to be weak.
Humans are mammals and when young are nourished by milk from the breast.
It doesn't take much to deduce that similar nourishment may be obtained from milk from another mammal with similar physical mechanics.

Jonybgud

Your Face wrote: »

I always found the logic behind this allusion to be weak.
Humans are mammals and when young are nourished by milk from the breast.
It doesn't take much to deduce that similar nourishment may be obtained from milk from another mammal with similar physical mechanics.

I think you're missing the point.

It isn't use of animals milk for human nourishment that's the issue, it's the processing of animals milk to make cheese is the point.


When was the first whiskey or stout made and what exactly were they trying to do when they made it?

Tilikum17

Jonybgud wrote: »

Inter-species suckling isn't that uncommon, processing the product is.

It’s incredible uncommon. In fact we are the only species on the planet that activity drink the milk of another species. Which in itself has to go through a whole process for it to become safe for us to drink.

But yeah, you’re right making cheese out of it is just weird,

Tilikum17

Tilikum17 wrote: »

...Which in itself has to go through a whole process for it to become safe for us to drink.

Really? Big treat was when the milkman came around with his ass & cart and a big, still warm, churn of milk on the back. The white gold out of that brass tap was delicious in a way you'll never understand...

This was not in the 80's

Jonybgud

Tilikum17 wrote: »

It’s incredible uncommon. In fact we are the only species on the planet that activity drink the milk of another species.

https://scribol.com/environment/animals-environment/10-incredible-tales-of-interspecies-nursing/10/

Includes:

Tiger cubs suckling from a Sow
Kittens suckling from a terrier
Baby rabbit suckling from a cat
Baby squirrel suckling from a cat
Baby deer suckling from a dog

I hazard these are just a section, unlikely to be the only ones, so maybe not so uncommon after all.

Tilikum17

Jonybgud wrote: »

https://scribol.com/environment/animals-environment/10-incredible-tales-of-interspecies-nursing/10/

Includes:

Tiger cubs suckling from a Sow
Kittens suckling from a terrier
Baby rabbit suckling from a cat
Baby squirrel suckling from a cat
Baby deer suckling from a dog

I hazard these are just a section, unlikely to be the only ones, so maybe not so uncommon after all.

We actively breed an animal just so we can take its its milk. We take the calf away from its mother.

There’s a big difference.

Or you that stupid?

Your whole thread was based on what were they thinking???

Jonybgud

Tilikum17 wrote: »

We actively breed an animal just so we can take its its milk. We take the calf away from its mother.

There’s a big difference.

Or you that stupid?

At this stage you are just deliberately missing the point and getting abusive when proven wrong.

Trigger Happy

Tilikum17 wrote: »

We actively breed an animal just so we can take its its milk. We take the calf away from its mother.

There’s a big difference.

Or you that stupid?

Your whole thread was based on what were they thinking???

You said humans were the only animal that drank other animals mild. Jonybud proved you wrong and you say he is the stupid one??!!

Tilikum17

Jonybgud wrote: »

At this stage you are just deliberately missing the point and getting abusive when proven wrong.

Good lad. Your thread died on its arse 11 hours ago.

Ted_YNWA

Tilikum17 wrote: »

We actively breed an animal just so we can take its its milk. We take the calf away from its mother.

There’s a big difference.

Or you that stupid?

Your whole thread was based on what were they thinking???

Tilikum17 wrote: »

Good lad. Your thread died on its arse 11 hours ago.

Mod

Be civil, or don't post in this thread.

No need to get digs in at other posters.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Jonybgud wrote: »

As the title suggests I wonder what exactly was going on when people first discovered oysters are edible?

Who's idea was it to make cheese out of animals milk and what exactly were they trying to do?

What else?

Unlike today's 24 hour availability of fresh food, up to the recent past there was little effective storage of foods outside of when that food was available. For cows, that would just be in the first 3-4 months after calving when there was enough of a surplus to have milk to drink but when the calf got old enough, there was no surplus milk.

So a way had to be found to store surplus milk for use during the periods where there was no milk and possibly little enough other foods available.
I've seen some papers speculating on how the rennet needed was first found and the most plausible was a calf after being newly killed and the recent feed of milk found to be still edible but clotted and adding this to fresh milk started a culture which, when compressed and left, was found to be still edible after a short period.

Experimenting would have extended the period that they found the cheese was still edible and different management and different milks used would have yielded different cheeses. Yogurt would have a similar start, a container of milk left unattended clotting and adding this to other milk leading to yogurt which was stable for much longer periods of time.

Pretty much all foods were experimented on or found the be edible through trial and error.

Capt'n Midnight

Jonybgud wrote: »

I think you're missing the point.

It isn't use of animals milk for human nourishment that's the issue, it's the processing of animals milk to make cheese is the point.

Back then they probably use goat stomachs to store liquids. And next thing you know curds and whey. And that's most of the way to cheese. And cheese can be stored for a lot longer than milk. And storable foods mean you are less likely to starve in winter.

When was the first whiskey or stout made and what exactly were they trying to do when they made it?

Beer can come from a natural fermentation. Grape fermentation is very simple since the yeast is usually on the grapes already.

Distilling was done to concentrate perfume. And some Irish monks wondered what would happen if you tried to concentrate beer.

NcdJd

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Back then they probably use goat stomachs to store liquids. And next thing you know curds and whey. And that's most of the way to cheese. And cheese can be stored for a lot longer than milk. And storable foods mean you are less likely to starve in winter.



Beer can come from a natural fermentation. Grape fermentation is very simple since the yeast is usually on the grapes already.

Distilling was done to concentrate perfume. And some Irish monks wondered what would happen if you tried to concentrate beer.

Clever lads them monks

Jonybgud

Enlightening, thank you,

A big leap of faith being the first one to taste the steps through the process to develop the product, but I imagine this would have happened over a long period of time.

Capt'n Midnight

Until recently for most of humanity starvation was a very real concern.

And if you are hungry enough you will try anything. People weren't quite as picky then. Especially when starving to death.


It's the only way to explain Surströmming

McGinniesta

My own personal favourite is who discovered that all snowflakes are different.

Jonybgud

Who processed some rocks to extract iron and then develop steel from it?
Some serious work there, dragging the world into the iron age, but what was he doing to find iron in the first place?

Capt'n Midnight

Jonybgud wrote: »

Who processed some rocks to extract iron and then develop steel from it?
Some serious work there, dragging the world into the iron age, but what was he doing to find iron in the first place?

You can find copper in nature and it's useful stuff.

Iron was also discovered in nickel-iron meteorites. Magic sky-metal. You make a sword out of that and it would slice through a copper blade.


Later on people may have noticed some green rocks changed in a campfire and hey a new source of copper. Later still other rocks got mixed in and bronze is even harder and more durable than copper.


So when someone noticed that charcoal changed very hard dense rocks into something like iron they probably got very excited.

And with all those furnaces it was only a matter of time before some sand fell in and transparent rocks. But China missed that one. Which is why the Europeans invented glasses and spectacles , clear beer, telescopes and microscopes and glassware and chemistry and more efficient lamps.