Type of wood for side gate

Faze11

Hi all

New to DIY with a few projects under the belt. Raised sleeper beds, a garden bench and a few small basic projects in the house. Slowly but surely building confidence and knowledge. Next project is for a side gate to replace a weathered one that's seen better days. Not a clue what type of wood I need or should ask for when buying. 2 X 4 pressure tested seems too heavy and not really sure what other types of woods would be suitable. Anyone able to advise what I need.

Faze11

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bobbyy gee

pressure treated wood so it does not rot

Faze11

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Faze11

bobbyy gee wrote: »

pressure treated wood so it does not rot

Not sure what type though, sizes ect. What to ask for.

Carawaystick

Mine is untreated 3x1 or 4x1 planed,

and sadolin'ed each year, let loads of it soak into the top grain ends, and leave plenty space at the bottom, to reduce rain splash into the bottom grain.
15years old

Faze11

Carawaystick wrote: »

Mine is untreated 3x1 or 4x1 planed,

and sadolin'ed each year, let loads of it soak into the top grain ends, and leave plenty space at the bottom, to reduce rain splash into the bottom grain.
15years old

Thanks.

Similar 2 this?

https://brooksonline.ie/22mmx100mm-1x4-whitewood-planed-timber-pw022100

What about the braces. Same again?

alanhiggyno1

Faze11 wrote: »

Thanks.

Similar 2 this?

https://brooksonline.ie/22mmx100mm-1x4-whitewood-planed-timber-pw022100

What about the braces. Same again?

Glad I found this thread in actually about to take on the same project and was thinking 3 x 1.i think I would use a 4x2 for the brace on the wall for the gate to fix on to?

martinr5232

There is a kit you can buy in builders providers think its called "gate in a box" where you build it to your own spec but everything is in the kit.

Rows Grower

Teak is used a lot on gates, 4 or 5 x 1 would be a popular size.

Stigura

Everything but the wood! Lovely concept. But, ouch!

Faze; Old engine oil makes a great, (Free!) preservative / stain for jobs like this. Long as yet black is okay by you? Submerge the wood in it over night. 'Last a life time'.

dodzy

Small money. Use these for the main body. Then a regular 5 or 6x1 treated for the braces and a treated 4x2 For the wall supports.

https://www.goodwins.ie/products/treated-tg-v-5x1-119x19mm-4-2mtr-5x1-14ft.html?filter_set%5B%5D=20,2120

xl500

Did you try one of the guys supplying and fitting these gates be surprised how little you would save if anything DIY

Aravo

Plastic effect timber would be maintenance free.

Irish_peppa

If one was to use standard wood (not pressure treated) for an outside project . Can you "retro-treat" it with sadolins or ronseal or does it really need to be pressure treated in factory for proper long lasting exposure?
Ie are you wasting your time with wood thats not pressure treated for projects subject to the elements

Who2

Larch or teak will last well outside. The pressure treated softwoods in the Hardware’s are pure muck. They’ll last a year or two if your stuck.

Faze11

dodzy wrote: »

Small money. Use these for the main body. Then a regular 5 or 6x1 treated for the braces and a treated 4x2 For the wall supports.

https://www.goodwins.ie/products/treated-tg-v-5x1-119x19mm-4-2mtr-5x1-14ft.html?filter_set%5B%5D=20,2120

These look perfect. Thanks.

enricoh

Who2 wrote: »

Larch or teak will last well outside. The pressure treated softwoods in the Hardware’s are pure muck. They’ll last a year or two if your stuck.

Yup, waste of time. Decking boards are decent, larch excellent. A steel frame is the way to go really- no sagging at the hinges

phormium

I just buy the ordinary pressure treated in usual builders providers, it lasts a hell of a lot longer than a year or two! I'm sure there are more expensive woods out there but for the price it has a good life span I think. If I was doing something that I wanted to look really nice I might go for the more expensive stuff.

During lockdown I replaced some wooden garden things like obelisks and a fence/gate. They had been there for between 10/15 yrs and indeed they were rotted but it was a pretty good run for the cost at the time. I have used a lot of decking too this year on garden projects, I'm hoping that lasts a good while!

I have two side wooden gates, now they are not things of beauty but one is made from a cut down garden wood panel which can be a very cost effective way of making barriers, it's already half made and just needs cutting to suit.

Irish_peppa

Hmmmm So for instance, Pressure treated decking, (like from Goodwins or Brooks) If you religously maintain them year on year. Wash and treat with oil RELIGOUSLY, is it ultimately futile? Will it all eventually be rotted or in some state of decay in 10 years or need replacement in parts? Forgive my ignorance I thought if you annually cared for your decking/Fences/Gates it would last a lifetime or well at least 20 or 30 years? Am I wrong?

Gerard93

Hi
In similar position need to replace side gate anyone use these

https://www.createagate.ie/

alanhiggyno1

Gerard93 wrote: »

Hi
In similar position need to replace side gate anyone use these

https://www.createagate.ie/

One in 3rd pic I'm looking to build so thinking of 4x1 for the frame and same for the braces. Does that sound doable and will last once treated

dodzy

alanhiggyno1 wrote: »

One in 3rd pic I'm looking to build so thinking of 4x1 for the frame and same for the braces. Does that sound doable and will last once treated

Of course, but buy the treated timber. It's only pennies in the difference from untreated.

dodzy

Who2 wrote: »

Larch or teak will last well outside. The pressure treated softwoods in the Hardware’s are pure muck. They’ll last a year or two if your stuck.

That's utter BS talk.

Faze11

Got around to it today. Never been great at DIY and not perfect but happy with it. Sand, stain and install next.

Stigura

Looks a damn fine job, to me, Faze

Who2

dodzy wrote: »

That's utter BS talk.

It’s not, treated timber here is the worst of pure dirt. It’s no difference to me what the op uses but that timber will be starting to boast in a few years, hinges won’t stay on and any bits in contact with concrete will be in a nice state. If they are going to the bother of making it, do it right and have it finished with. The two timbers that spring to mind for most suitable is larch or teak, they aren’t that much dearer but you’ll still have a decent gate in ten or twenty years time, and it won’t be slobbered with ronseal fence life or whatever other muck that’s picked up in woodies.

Pawwed Rig

Faze11 wrote: »

Got around to it today. Never been great at DIY and not perfect but happy with it. Sand, stain and install next.

Nice job. I did one recently that doesn't look half as good as that.

alanhiggyno1

Faze11 wrote: »

Got around to it today. Never been great at DIY and not perfect but happy with it. Sand, stain and install next.

What timber did u go with in the end. Looks great we'll done

Rows Grower

You made a fine neat job of that in fairness, if I was doing one myself I would leave a gap between the timbers to allow for expansion when wet but if you seal it properly it shouldn't be an issue.

Lumen

The advantage of using treated construction timber is that it's dirt cheap.

This is particularly important if, like me, if takes at least three attempts to get it right.

Make sure you treat cut ends with Protim or equivalent, particularly on horizontal surfaces, nooks and cranies where water can collect, and at load bearing points e.g. hinges.

dodzy

Who2 wrote: »

It’s not, treated timber here is the worst of pure dirt. It’s no difference to me what the op uses but that timber will be starting to boast in a few years, hinges won’t stay on and any bits in contact with concrete will be in a nice state. If they are going to the bother of making it, do it right and have it finished with. The two timbers that spring to mind for most suitable is larch or teak, they aren’t that much dearer but you’ll still have a decent gate in ten or twenty years time, and it won’t be slobbered with ronseal fence life or whatever other muck that’s picked up in woodies.

More tripe. Seriously.

Faze, great job. It’ll last years (and I mean wayyyy more than 2 or 3)