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Borat 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    briany wrote: »
    I thought it was pretty funny. Had some good moments. Impossible to top the first film, though, just due to sheer logistics. He couldn't actually *be* Borat throughout a good chunk of the film due to being recognised as such and his cover being blown, so him having to put on disguises felt really contrived, and it felt much more like Who is America but he's doing the Borat voice. And on the subject of the voice, Cohen didn't seem to commit as much to the accent and turns of phrase, and he sounded a good deal more natural in his English speaking. In my opinion, the voice is a big part of the character's comedy.

    The actress they hired to play the daughter was excellent. She matched Cohen's comedy performance pretty easily.

    Anyone notice how there was not one LGBT or Gay joke or laugh in the entire film whereas the first one had several, just shows how touchy and dour that entire category of people have become, being Gay now is really the opposite of the original word meaning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    theguzman wrote: »
    Anyone notice how there was not one LGBT or Gay joke or laugh in the entire film whereas the first one had several, just shows how touchy and dour that entire category of people have become, being Gay now is really the opposite of the original word meaning.

    The focus is to ridicule republicans and conservatives, release timed just before the election.
    The movie, same with This is America, is a political stunt.

    Imo it's the worst kind of political stunt. Ridiculing people won't change their minds. It was already tried with Trump 2016 and Brexit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    The focus is to ridicule republicans and conservatives, release timed just before the election.
    The movie, same with This is America, is a political stunt.

    Imo it's the worst kind of political stunt. Ridiculing people won't change their minds. It was already tried with Trump 2016 and Brexit.

    It usually has the exact opposite result and hardens those who are entrenched and turns moderates the other way. I have cousins in the US who expect a Trump win because no one will admit they will vote for Trump besides his fanatical supporters. In my cousins words why open yourself up for such abuse and just keep a low profile and vote for Trump, this guy says he thinks New York will carry for Trump, he is voting Democrat for Biden but says alot of his buddies and former Hillary and Obama supporters have switched to Trump. Time will tell but I think this movie may have the opposite effect of what it is intended.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    How could you not realise that?

    I guess I'm very slow on the uptake. I loved Borat found it refreshingly funny, Borat 2 just seems like a party political broadcast in behalf of the democrats.


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    I think it's gone from something that was inherently good natured to something that's just mean.

    No one came out of the early Ali G or Borat interview looking like an idiot, except for Ali G and Borat.

    Now they're specifically targeting republicans and conservatives with the aim of ridiculing them.
    Well done, you found some rednecks who believe in QAnon. Well done, you got some governor to pull his pants down. It's less entertainment and more bullying.

    He didn't interview politicians in the first one? I think he did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    He didn't interview politicians in the first one? I think he did.

    He did, but the tone was completely different. I don't think Borat or Ali G ever set out to publicly ridicule the people they interviewed. Even the Trump Ali G interview, Trump comes off well enough, the hilarity is putting Trump in such a weird situation (ice cream hands) not getting a supposedly underage girl into a hotel room with him.

    I dunno, I watched this thinking "why are we laughing at this, why is no one calling the police?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,484 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    I never realised how political Cohen is, utter ****e tbh. Ripping the piss out of Trump is gone stale at this stage.

    I'm not even going to comment on the political aspect of this movie...

    As a movie it was terrible, maybe a 1 or a 2 out of 10 for me...and I loved the first Borat movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭garrettod


    I enjoyed it...

    Not as good as the first film, but sequels very rarely are...

    Anyone who watches this, should know the kind of stuff that they are in store for, so:

    - if you dont like Borat, just don't watch it, simple!

    - however, if you do like Borat, then sit back and enjoy the laughs.

    Thanks,

    G.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭Wailin


    garrettod wrote: »

    - however, if you do like Borat, then sit back and enjoy the laughs.

    Very few and far between, and I like Borat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I think the guy is a comedy genius and I really like him. But it's nothing but a Trump bashing thing conveniently released one week from the elections. I thought Guiliani interview with the supposedly 15 year old was cringy. Desperately trying to make something out of nothing. The way she touches his leg briefly, camera zoom - bingo, was actually shameful.
    If you leave that aside it was Borat reheated only with fewer laughs.

    And I'm not a Trump fan btw. At all. Just thought it was bottom drawer...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    I think the guy is a comedy genius and I really like him. But it's nothing but a Trump bashing thing conveniently released one week from the elections. I thought Guiliani interview with the supposedly 15 year old was cringy. Desperately trying to make something out of nothing. The way she touches his leg briefly, camera zoom - bingo, was actually shameful.
    If you leave that aside it was Borat reheated only with fewer laughs.

    And I'm not a Trump fan btw. At all. Just thought it was bottom drawer...

    I enjoyed it but can agree with all of the above. The Guliani thing was awful and frankly ridiculous. I have heard "15 years of age" repeated a few times around it. The actor is not 15, its just trying to sensationalise something where nothing happened.

    Just as much ridiculous **** on both sides in America (and is this not classed as British interference on an election :-))


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    He did, but the tone was completely different. I don't think Borat or Ali G ever set out to publicly ridicule the people they interviewed. Even the Trump Ali G interview, Trump comes off well enough, the hilarity is putting Trump in such a weird situation (ice cream hands) not getting a supposedly underage girl into a hotel room with him.

    I dunno, I watched this thinking "why are we laughing at this, why is no one calling the police?"

    the Guiliani interview I agree. Maybe it just didnt work on the day for them but as they got usable footage, they kept it.

    That and the dance I just cringed at. Was on par with a fart joke to me


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Hollyworth


    I think Norm Mcdonald said that smart comedians don't go after Trump. It's the low hanging fruit. How true. Expected more from SBC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,515 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Hollyworth wrote: »
    I think Norm Mcdonald said that smart comedians don't go after Trump. It's the low hanging fruit. How true. Expected more from SBC.

    Anyone who pisses off Trumpy and his followers is ok in my book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Hollyworth wrote: »
    I think Norm Mcdonald said that smart comedians don't go after Trump. It's the low hanging fruit. How true. Expected more from SBC.

    AliG went after Trump, who had none of him. Walked out after 30 seconds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    AliG went after Trump, who had none of him. Walked out after 30 seconds.

    Think Trump's standing in the world was a bit different back then! He did deal with it well to be fair though.


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    So in a nutshell, we have a film thats as good as the original but not even a shadow of the original, crammed with laughs but not funny, a candidate for an Oscar and a Raspberry with a rating between 1/10 to 10/10

    Comedy, really is very subjective


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Hollyworth


    Going after Trump is not very original. It's lazy and groan inducing. This film was no different.

    I don't like Trump, but where were all these comedians when Obama was dropping bombs at an unprecedented rate? It's like political comedy was in a coma for 8 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Pretty big poll via Reddit Movies with over 9,000 votes https://youpoll.me/45972/r

    Most popular choice is 8 out of 10

    Think I'll give at least the first 20 mins a try over the weekend


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Maybe I'd have enjoyed it a bit more if I had known that some of the scenes that I just assumed were with actors were actually with real people. The babysitter and the two guys he stayed with in particular. Just seemed too crazy that they weren't in on it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There’s nearly two hours of my life I’ll never get back. I was a huge fan of Ali G and the original Borat film, this is just a dull, nasty, crude piece of filmatic ****e. The debutante dance and women’s meeting scenes are simply grotesque and not in any way funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Dav010 wrote: »
    There’s nearly two hours of my life I’ll never get back. I was a huge fan of Ali G and the original Borat film, this is just a dull, nasty, crude piece of filmatic ****e. The debutante dance and women’s meeting scenes are simply grotesque and not in any way funny.

    Every hour of your life is an hour you'll never get back


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    PsychoPete wrote: »
    Every hour of your life is an hour you'll never get back

    TBF, Borat 2 was wittier than your post though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    PsychoPete wrote: »
    Every hour of your life is an hour you'll never get back

    I think the meaning behind the regularly used saying is not literal, it just means those two hours could’ve been better spent.

    A bit like this scenario, if I was in the car with a friend in a passenger seat and some eejit ran a red light and pulled out in front of me and I exclaimed “f**k me”, in shock, I think my friend in the passenger would understand that I did not want him to have sexual intercourse with me.

    There’s 50-60 seconds of typing a response I will never get back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    The family tried to sue but it turned out she knew exactly what was going to happen. SBC seemingly explained it all to get before they started filming.

    I loved the film but that scene had me wondering.

    In the height of Covid should SBC really be hugging two random elderly women?

    Don't get me wrong- Covid is generally a load of hyped bollix, but we should be taking the Swedish approach, and laying off the old folks physically.

    The daughter is an absolute cracker, I can understand why a lot of the lefties didn't enjoy it.:pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Jesus... Is no thread on this site safe from talk about 'lefties'? :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Still Ill wrote: »
    Jesus... Is no thread on this site safe from talk about 'lefties'? :rolleyes:

    It’s the night that’s in it. Ciotog discrimination.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,109 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    I loved the film but that scene had me wondering.

    In the height of Covid should SBC really be hugging two random elderly women?

    Don't get me wrong- Covid is generally a load of hyped bollix, but we should be taking the Swedish approach, and laying off the old folks physically.

    The daughter is an absolute cracker, I can understand why a lot of the lefties didn't enjoy it.:pac:

    Ah, I will get you wrong and Sweden has also changed its approach to Covid and has started applying restrictions in the face of rising infections.

    Also, what does the daughter being a cracker have to do with lefties?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,495 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    This could be Oscar nominated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    This could be Oscar nominated

    Yes, and it's a POS IMO. The very recent past has been terrible with its dearth of outstanding films.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,484 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    This could be Oscar nominated

    ??

    It's terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭showpony1


    The academy? whatcha gonna do? inject them with the Wuhan flu! inject them with the Wuuuhaan flu!


  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Wedwood


    If this is a contender for an award, how depressing it is that the standard of movies have fallen that low.

    I don’t dislike Borat 2, but to suggest this is Oscar nomination worthy is like including one of the worst Carry On movies as a best picture nominee.

    (BTW, I love most of the Carry On movies, but they still made Carry On Columbus ��)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,484 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Wedwood wrote: »
    If this is a contender for an award, how depressing it is that the standard of movies have fallen that low.

    I don’t dislike Borat 2, but to suggest this is Oscar nomination worthy is like including one of the worst Carry On movies as a best picture nominee.

    (BTW, I love most of the Carry On movies, but they still made Carry On Columbus ��)

    Virtue signaling will always get the votes. This movie is the opposite of the first one, the more left leaning you get the unfunnier things are. SBC should stick to the comedy and leave politics to the politicians. This, like his last TV show are cut from the same unfunny cloth.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    The tv show was a little hit and miss. Had a lot of hilarious moments though. This movie was almost completely terrible though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭El Duda


    The negativity in here!

    What were you expecting from a Borat movie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,484 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    El Duda wrote: »
    The negativity in here!

    What were you expecting from a Borat movie?

    For it to be funny?


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