Cheap pharmacy coming

Darc19

Sector could be about to get shaken

http://chemistwarehouse.ie/

Here's their aussie site
https://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/

$5bn turnover. 23% of aussie market.

.red.

That doesn't look dodgy at all!!!

SEPT 23 1989

Do you need a prescription?

odyssey06

Not sure where this is going... follows thread.

StevenToast

I wouldnt buy toilet roll there

shanec1928

Hopefully things are priced like there stores in oz. great value on aftershaves/ perfumes.

Electric Nitwit

Interesting...

The Times wrote:

Chemist Warehouse, an Australian discount pharmacy chain, is planning to enter the Irish market.

The retailer, which has been dubbed the McDonald’s of pharmacy, has linked up with an Irish pharmacy entrepreneur to establish a subsidiary here and is believed to have already lined up its first outlets in Dublin.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/australian-pharmacy-chemist-warehouse-to-give-dublin-dose-of-its-medicine-pvrhxn23c

Darc19

Updated op with aussie site. https://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/

They are huge.

Report is in The Times and also irish times

rom

I wonder if they will be real cheap or Irish cheap. Was getting an Asthma spacer here. Price 170 euro. In Spain the exact same one was 40 euro. We are totally been taken for a ride.

RobbingBandit

Fact that here has no generic aspirin ibuprofen or paracetamol for sale OTC says it all really. £1 for nurofen tablets in Dunnes Stores in Newry nearly €5 here and only available in pharmacy.

vicwatson

Is the Irish entrepreneur Shane O’Sullivan - the lad from Healthwave?

Darc19

vicwatson wrote: »

Is the Irish entrepreneur Shane O’Sullivan - the lad from Healthwave?

I don't think so. Registered office is in Swords.

First shop is blanchardstown. (ad for pharmacist on indeed)
My guess is it will be the former Laura Ashley store.

Further check sees it as same address as blackhall distribution, part of United drug which owns Lloyds pharmacy.

jamesbondings

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Fact that here has no generic aspirin ibuprofen or paracetamol for sale OTC says it all really. £1 for nurofen tablets in Dunnes Stores in Newry nearly €5 here and only available in pharmacy.

It's a farce! We do a couple trips up north for bits and bobs each year and stock up on paracetamol (sainsbury have em for like 20p) and nurofen.. Have to go in and out of shops a few times but save a fortune.
How do we not have any generic stuff available?

screamer

jamesbondings wrote: »

It's a farce! We do a couple trips up north for bits and bobs each year and stock up on paracetamol (sainsbury have em for like 20p) and nurofen.. Have to go in and out of shops a few times but save a fortune.
How do we not have any generic stuff available?

We do have generics but the price difference between them and the branded drugs is so negligible that generics are not worth buying.

Former Former

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Fact that here has no generic aspirin ibuprofen or paracetamol for sale OTC says it all really. £1 for nurofen tablets in Dunnes Stores in Newry nearly €5 here and only available in pharmacy.

This new entrant won't change that.

It's a volume thing. You can sell low cost goods to 60 million people for less than you can sell them to 5 million. That's the short version.

Rows Grower

Former Former wrote: »

This new entrant won't change that.

It's a volume thing. You can sell low cost goods to 60 million people for less than you can sell them to 5 million. That's the short version.

That doesn't explain the difference in prices by a long shot. We are being ripped off here compared to the UK.

Former Former

Rows Grower wrote: »

That doesn't explain the difference in prices by a long shot. We are being ripped off here compared to the UK.

It's pretty complicated but again, this new pharmacy won't change it one way or the other.

The Hound Gone Wild

rom wrote: »

I wonder if they will be real cheap or Irish cheap. Was getting an Asthma spacer here. Price 170 euro. In Spain the exact same one was 40 euro. We are totally been taken for a ride.

I'd love to see your reaction if you got the average Spanish wage per month.

bobbyy gee

In spain medicence 6 Euro months supply
Ireland 200 Euro months supply
America 1000 Euro months supply

The Hound Gone Wild

bobbyy gee wrote: »

In spain medicence 6 Euro months supply
Ireland 200 Euro months supply
America 1000 Euro months supply

What medication is €6 per month in Spain that's €200 in Ireland? Bearing in mind the max 99.99% of people in Ireland will pay is €124 per month.

n1ck

Used to live in Oz and can vouch for Chemist Warehouse, very legitimate and extremely cheap by their standards, would be interesting to see the same here.

RobbingBandit

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Fact that here has no generic aspirin ibuprofen or paracetamol for sale OTC says it all really. £1 for nurofen tablets in Dunnes Stores in Newry nearly €5 here and only available in pharmacy.

Buplex is a generic of Nurofen/Ibuprofen and retails at a around a third of the price. You can buy nurofen OTC here, but it is limited to one packet. There are also a number of generic paracetamols available, some less than a €1. You just need to look around more.

As chemistwarehouse are about to find, buying drugs from suppliers in a small market like Ireland is very different from buying them in larger markets like the UK and Australia. While there may be some discounts due to not having bricks and mortar shops, they are unlikely to be significant.

Slutmonkey57b

Dav010 wrote: »

Buplex is a generic of Nurofen/Ibuprofen and retails at a around a third of the price. You can buy nurofen OTC here, but it is limited to one packet. There are also a number of generic paracetamols available, some less than a €1. You just need to look around more.

As chemistwarehouse are about to find, buying drugs from suppliers in a small market like Ireland is very different from buying them in larger markets like the UK and Australia. While there may be some discounts due to not having bricks and mortar shops, they are unlikely to be significant.

The drugs are often produced in Ireland. Getting them into this market isn't any different to getting them into the northern Irish market. If this were true, why aren't cornflakes 3x the price here as well?

tdf7187

Great news. I paid €26 the other day for a monthly supply of low dose aspirin, a low dose statin, and Thiamine (I am a recovering alcoholic, thiamine is recommended for us types). Ridiculous.

Slutmonkey57b

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

The drugs are often produced in Ireland. Getting them into this market isn't any different to getting them into the northern Irish market. If this were true, why aren't cornflakes 3x the price here as well?

Cornflakes are not a drug.

Drug supply companies who import medications for sale require a wholesale import licence. They have contracts with manufacturers for the import and sale of their drugs.

The process of getting them into both markets is the same, licensed wholesalers import them, then sell them to pharmacies and OTC retailers, but the wholesale market for the UK, including NI, is very different than in ROI due to economy of scale.

Slutmonkey57b

Dav010 wrote: »

Cornflakes are not a drug.

Drug supply companies who import medications for sale require a wholesale import licence. They have contracts with manufacturers for the import and sale of their drugs.

The process of getting them into both markets is the same, licensed wholesalers import them, then sell them to pharmacies and OTC retailers, but the wholesale market for the UK, including NI, is very different than in ROI due to economy of scale.

And all the drug companies that produce drugs here, do they get subject to the same import issues?

And the EU single market doesn't apply to medical drugs?

Slutmonkey57b

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

And all the drug companies that produce drugs here, do they get subject to the same import issues?

Try going into the Pfizer and asking can you buy a couple of boxes of viagra. Though the production of pharmaceuticals is important to our economy, we produce a limited medications number of prescribed medications. I am not sure of pharmacies can buy direct from manufacturers, I suspect they also have to go through a licenced wholesale intermediary.


While the EU has a standardised regulatory system to ensure the safety of drugs sold in the EU, each country has their own licensing regulations, in Ireland a Wholesaler who wishes to import drugs for sale to pharmacies/OTC has to apply to Revenue for the licence.

Not all drugs prescribed in individual EU countries are licensed for use here.

All this information is available online, google is your friend.

wotzgoingon

What are you all mad for buying painkillers for. I think you are addicted. Never took them in my life.

begbysback

Shane Warne aftershave, $36, cant wait

Atlantic Dawn

Former Former wrote: »

This new entrant won't change that.

It's a volume thing. You can sell low cost goods to 60 million people for less than you can sell them to 5 million. That's the short version.

A lot of those drugs are actually made in Ireland so how in the jaysus could a drug made in Ireland be more expensive in Ireland than another EU country? There's no VAT, excise duty, VRT etc yet goods shipped outside Ireland would have additional transport costs which need to be covered.

I don't think online pharmacies are a particularly good thing. Takes pharmacists away from patient facing roles.

wotzgoingon

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

A lot of those drugs are actually made in Ireland so how in the jaysus could a drug made in Ireland be more expensive in Ireland than another EU country? There's no VAT, excise duty, VRT etc yet goods shipped outside Ireland would have additional transport costs which need to be covered.

I remember a a fair few years ago watching a program about a Irish made produce(food) and it was sold cheaper in a Aldi or Lidl in France and most likely other EU countries than it was sold in same stores in this country.

Atlantic Dawn

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

A lot of those drugs are actually made in Ireland so how in the jaysus could a drug made in Ireland be more expensive in Ireland than another EU country? There's no VAT, excise duty, VRT etc yet goods shipped outside Ireland would have additional transport costs which need to be covered.

Because it is a smaller market and manufacturers/wholesalers charge more here than in larger markets or developing countries. If you google it, there are lots of articles where Government Depts/HSE/pharmacies complain about the prices being charged for wholesale of drugs. This is the market chemistwarehouse is coming into so they will have to buy from licensed wholesalers/manufacturers in the domestic market, I wouldn’t be expecting big discounts unless they are going to be selling at a loss, which is hardly a good long term business model.

begbysback

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I don't think online pharmacies are a particularly good thing. Takes pharmacists away from patient facing roles.

Pharmacists are sales people too, some idiot suggested I purchase a natural ingredients cough syrup a while back, 10 bucks. Drank nearly half the bottle and did nothing, absolutely nothing. Went to another chemist and the pharmacist suggested another cough bottle, don’t drive after taking this he said, nearly knocked me out cold, sh1t had that baby gone in 2 days flat.

jamesbondings

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I don't think online pharmacies are a particularly good thing. Takes pharmacists away from patient facing roles.

I know it's off topic, but never have I ever had an actual conversation with a pharmacist. They are script fillers who take an age to get what you need, which is provided to me after a consultation with a Dr. The one time I did need their help they directed me to a Dr.
Of course for certain members of society they are vital they only really fill prescriptions for the majority of their customers.

wotzgoingon

jamesbondings wrote: »

They are script fillers who take an age to get what you need

They do in all. I do nearly feel like telling them show me the tablets and I'll get them myself.

jamesbondings

jamesbondings wrote: »

I know it's off topic, but never have I ever had an actual conversation with a pharmacist. They are script fillers who take an age to get what you need, which is provided to me after a consultation with a Dr. The one time I did need their help they directed me to a Dr.
Of course for certain members of society they are vital they only really fill prescriptions for the majority of their customers.

What were you expecting the Pharmacy to do other than dispense the medicine prescribed by your Doctor? Pharmacists can give limited advice, but there is a reason why you go to your GP most of the time if you need medical advice.

jamesbondings

Dav010 wrote: »

What were you expecting the Pharmacy to do other than dispense the medicine prescribed by your Doctor? Pharmacists can give limited advice, but there is a reason why you go to your GP most of the time if you need medical advice.

That's exactly my point. I was responding to another post.

RobbingBandit

begbysback wrote: »

Shane Warne aftershave, $36, cant wait

60% of the time you'll smell of failure everytime

beachhead

Who cares about paracetemol or ibrufen.You can buy Difene in Spain for 10c a tablet over the counter.Here,it's prescription only for e1.00 plus hello money for your GP.The minimum wage in Spain is e5.00 per hour approx last time I looked.There will never be a "cheap" pharmacy in the Republic.

California Dreamer

Metanium - Simply the best nappy rash cream I have ever see.

€12.70 and only on prescription here.

Boots in Newry were doing it 3 for 2 the last time I was there and it was £3 each!!!

Gerry T

I'm on heart meds, take 4 each day. Used to cost the then limit of 147e a month I joined Healthwave, their in Dundrum and now my meds are 48e a month.
Its a club you pay an annual fee, think that's about 40e, worth checking out if your taking monthly meds, they deliver also, I usually get 3mths supply at a time

phill106

wotzgoingon wrote: »

What are you all mad for buying painkillers for. I think you are addicted. Never took them in my life.

Should keep some handy, in case you fall off that high horse.
Some people have chronic pain. People also have different levels of pain threshold.

vicwatson

Gerry T wrote: »

I'm on heart meds, take 4 each day. Used to cost the then limit of 147e a month I joined Healthwave, their in Dundrum and now my meds are 48e a month.
Its a club you pay an annual fee, think that's about 40e, worth checking out if your taking monthly meds, they deliver also, I usually get 3mths supply at a time

It’s €25 a year according to their website

Darc19

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I don't think online pharmacies are a particularly good thing. Takes pharmacists away from patient facing roles.

This is not an online pharmacy, though they are likely to have an online operation.

This will be retail park size units. First location is blanchardstown.

Only two possible locations there - the former Laura Ashley store or the Harvey Norman clearance store. I suspect that it will be the Laura Ashley unit.

ted1

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

The drugs are often produced in Ireland. Getting them into this market isn't any different to getting them into the northern Irish market. If this were true, why aren't cornflakes 3x the price here as well?

Each drug has to be approved by the HPRA https://www.hpra.ie/homepage/about-us
This adds costs, that is spread across a smaller customer base.

Ideally a European body should do this for all off Europe.

Darc19

Darc19 wrote: »

This is not an online pharmacy, though they are likely to have an online operation.

This will be retail park size units. First location is blanchardstown.

Only two possible locations there - the former Laura Ashley store or the Harvey Norman clearance store. I suspect that it will be the Laura Ashley unit.

So this is bricks and mortar retail? And you are expecting significant reductions in costs. Wait until those lovely Australians experience the joy of high rents, high rates, high labour costs, high insurance, high utilities etc.

begbysback

begbysback wrote: »

Pharmacists are sales people too, some idiot suggested I purchase a natural ingredients cough syrup a while back, 10 bucks. Drank nearly half the bottle and did nothing, absolutely nothing. Went to another chemist and the pharmacist suggested another cough bottle, don’t drive after taking this he said, nearly knocked me out cold, sh1t had that baby gone in 2 days flat.

The large companies such as boots and Lloyds are notorious for this, they are trying to monetise healthcare (which I am in complete disagreement with).

beachhead

beachhead wrote: »

Who cares about paracetemol or ibrufen.You can buy Difene in Spain for 10c a tablet over the counter.Here,it's prescription only for e1.00 plus hello money for your GP.The minimum wage in Spain is e5.00 per hour approx last time I looked.There will never be a "cheap" pharmacy in the Republic.

Yeah, the problem with difene is long term use is connected to increased risk of cardiovascular events. In my opinion, it is too dangerous a medication to be bought over the counter.

Mango Joe

rom wrote: »

I wonder if they will be real cheap or Irish cheap. Was getting an Asthma spacer here. Price 170 euro. In Spain the exact same one was 40 euro. We are totally been taken for a ride.

Irish Pharmacies are ripping people off to a shocking level with massive mark-ups on essentials.

The fact that they're cynically profiteering from the sick and elderly is abhorrent..... I'm delighted that large chains are going to muscle in and hopefully shut them all...the sooner the better.

JDxtra

Towns now seem to have more pharmacies than pubs! They're clearly making money from something.