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SUV advice

  • 06-09-2020 6:25pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭chases0102


    Hi all,

    Looking to buy an SUV/Crossover, as with new baby want a bit easier access for car seat, etc.

    Budget of approx 17k, looking to go to NI.

    What's coming up are Tuscon, Sportage, Kadjar - any advise on either of there? Or even, if I've missed out onvsomething similar (really like the Atecas, but most out of price range).

    Thanks all, realy helpful page


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    My honest advice is to 1st consider if you really need to change just because you now have a car seat.
    Its a lot of expense to change motor and spend big money simply to have a car seat that is now maybe a few inches higher up.

    How many kids have you and what do you currently drive?

    I own an Ateca and its a great car but none of my kids are in a baby seat any more, but when they were I got by fine with a Focus, Golf for many years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭chases0102


    Hi NIMAN, thanks for response.

    So we are actually a two car household, and we sold our second car in June - so essentially, we have to get a second car, it's just a matter of what we get! So we are not changing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    OK, I see.

    Well as I said, I only have experience of an Ateca. But as for most SUVs, I'd say they are all much of a muchness these days, until you are spending big money on the likes of the Audi's and Volvo ones.

    I'd say any will do a decent job for you, so maybe something like remaining warranty on a Kia or Hyundai might be a factor you might think about when deciding between one or a Renault.

    See plenty of C4 with baby seats in them too, roomy vehicles.
    Qashqai? Plenty of them to choose from I'd say.

    And maybe don't rule out a Dacia Duster? Would allow you to come up in years I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    What about Honda CR-V?? It is a lovely looking car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭chases0102


    Thanks for that.

    I have, for some reason, an aversion to Qashqais! Will research the others.

    Interesting that you mentioned the C4, they are coming in cheaper than the Tuscon or Sportage....are they less reliable?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭chases0102


    What about Honda CR-V?? It is a lovely looking car.

    Absolutely, just came across one of those recently, don't know too much about them....how are they reviewed/perceived?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Honda are expensive, just bear that in mind. You'll pay a fair few thousand extra for a Honda over a Kia/Renault etc




  • what do you currently have?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭chases0102


    Driving an i40 at the moment, will be holding on to it.




  • and is it the height that is the factor for getting something else. Have you checked out the Kia Venga, they not exciting to look at but they are very comfy and access for a baby seat is excellent, and a reliable wee car.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭chases0102


    Yeah, it would be the height alright. My old man drives a CX-5, and I love the height of it whenever I drive it.

    Haven't heard of a Kia Venga! Must look it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    will it be doing much mileage?
    Maybe a petrol one would suit?




  • cx5 are tasty. you'd need to drive a venga to appreciate them. I bought a tuscon for the same reason, a lovely yoke and very comfortable. Our neighbour shortly after bought a venga which i drove and instantly regretted buying the tuscon. The garage i worked in sold a few of them, over the years they never gave any bother.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 387 ✭✭Ta ceist agam


    Would you consider a Renault Scenic, good looking car IMO. New Renaults are as reliable as the best these days.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-scenic-dynamique-s-nav/25203885



    This Gold one only has 5 thousand miles apparently.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-scenic-dynamique-s-nav/25203845


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭chases0102


    Hadn't thought of a Scenic, or a car of that shape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭MarkN


    The 3 you mention in the opening post are all very similar and will do the job well. The boot in some of these cars can be a bigger than a Golf etc and many people seem to overlook this when talking about height. Kia boot is the biggest out of the 3 as far as I can remember.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Also bear in mind if you go North and bring down a car over 4yrs old, you'll have to put it through an NCT once you re-register it, and there is always the potential for that to fail and require you to spend more money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭Superfoods


    What sort of mileage etc you doing? do you need diesel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭chases0102


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Also bear in mind if you go North and bring down a car over 4yrs old, you'll have to put it through an NCT once you re-register it, and there is always the potential for that to fail and require you to spend more money.

    Hoping to get a 2017 from NI, big savings to be had still, it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭chases0102


    Superfoods wrote: »
    What sort of mileage etc you doing? do you need diesel?

    I do about 250-300 miles a week with work, but will mostly be doing that with my 14 i40, trying to get as much out of it as possible!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 387 ✭✭Ta ceist agam


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Also bear in mind if you go North and bring down a car over 4yrs old, you'll have to put it through an NCT once you re-register it, and there is always the potential for that to fail and require you to spend more money.

    You can transfer over the remaining MOT to NCT until atleast 31st December 2020.

    If the UK/NI dealer put it through the MOT on sale to get 12 months MOT, the buyer then once registered in southern Ireland can send away MOT to the NCT/Applus and they will send back 12 month or whatever is remaining of the MOT as the NCT cert. This is free of charge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭Superfoods


    chases0102 wrote: »
    I do about 250-300 miles a week with work, but will mostly be doing that with my 14 i40, trying to get as much out of it as possible!


    What abiout Outlander PHEV? just as something different. 30km on battery


    You will need a home to install charge point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    You can transfer over the remaining MOT to NCT until atleast 31st December 2020.

    If the UK/NI dealer put it through the MOT on sale to get 12 months MOT, the buyer then once registered in southern Ireland can send away MOT to the NCT/Applus and they will send back 12 month or whatever is remaining of the MOT as the NCT cert. This is free of charge.

    Honestly never knew that, thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    You can transfer over the remaining MOT to NCT until atleast 31st December 2020. ...This is free of charge.


    It's not free - there's a charge of €15.50


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Just brought in a 2017 CRV for 18k all in from NI

    Have owned Kuga and Ateca
    Have tried out Tiguan

    The CRV is the best crossover of that range for kids.
    The 5008, Kodiak or Terraco may be better but weren't in same price range.

    CRV has best boot of Kuga, Ateca, Tiguan
    It's pure flat and very big.
    Kuga second best.

    The CRV has best cabin space.
    3 car seats will fit side by side in it.
    Will also just fit in the newest Tiguan.

    The rear doors open really wide.

    Also and important to me anyway. It's a nice car and drives reasonably well. Tiguan is nicer in good trim. Ateca drives the best but is the smallest. Kuga is wallowy


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 387 ✭✭Ta ceist agam


    It's not free - there's a charge of €15.50

    That fee is waived. I just did another MOT/NCT transfer 2 weeks ago and didn't include the fee and it was processed.

    Email Applus and they will say the fee is still waived.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Don't do it.
    Get an estate. So easy to put buggy into compared to suv and way more room for other stuff
    A swivel car seat will make things much easier and they are cheaper than a car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    We’ve a Kuga now a few years and it’s brilliant.
    Spacious, reliable, economical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Had the Kuga 2 years. Always found it ok on juice. 40 to 45 mpg. CRV is in the low 50s.

    Ateca and Tiguan diesel get you 50mpg.
    Ateca 1.0 petrol 40 average.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭closifer


    We just changed to an SUV from a hatchback. We have a six year old in a booster and an almost one year old in a seat. We are delighted with the switch. The boot space is great and they are so much comfier in the back. We didn't like qashqais eiether and ruled then out. We test drove almost everything else! In the end came down to ford Kuga and Tucson. We would have been happy with either but got a better trade in deal for the Tucson . We find it great and pleasantly surprised that we haven't noticed any major jump in running costs from our 1.4 petrol hatchback to this 1.7 diesel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Don't do it.
    Get an estate. So easy to put buggy into compared to suv and way more room for other stuff
    A swivel car seat will make things much easier and they are cheaper than a car

    There could be something in this suggestion.
    Nice Mondeo estate,
    Superb Combi?
    Loads of room in those.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭Superfoods


    Dont mind the estate chat. Swivel chair, yes great till they grow out of it. Wait till they are in a booster and you are lying across the back seats with legs out trying to hook them into a seat belt.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Superfoods wrote: »
    Dont mind the estate chat. Swivel chair, yes great till they grow out of it. Wait till they are in a booster and you are lying across the back seats with legs out trying to hook them into a seat belt.....

    It's a wonder you didn't say the OP would have to sit on the wet ground :rolleyes::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Superfoods wrote: »
    Dont mind the estate chat. Swivel chair, yes great till they grow out of it. Wait till they are in a booster and you are lying across the back seats with legs out trying to hook them into a seat belt.....

    I think an estate is an ideal family car and far more practical.
    If you want to go somewhere for a week or weekend with 2 kids, where do you put all the stuff if you have an SUV?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭Superfoods


    I think an estate is an ideal family car and far more practical.
    If you want to go somewhere for a week or weekend with 2 kids, where do you put all the stuff if you have an SUV?


    Are you talking about SUV or Crossover?


    A car is not far more practical. A higher car is a lot easier to put kids in/out of. Not sure why people are trying to deny it, it is a known fact and I have yet to find a parent who doesn't admit that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭chases0102


    Just brought in a 2017 CRV for 18k all in from NI

    Have owned Kuga and Ateca
    Have tried out Tiguan

    The CRV is the best crossover of that range for kids.
    The 5008, Kodiak or Terraco may be better but weren't in same price range.

    CRV has best boot of Kuga, Ateca, Tiguan
    It's pure flat and very big.
    Kuga second best.

    The CRV has best cabin space.
    3 car seats will fit side by side in it.
    Will also just fit in the newest Tiguan.

    The rear doors open really wide.

    Also and important to me anyway. It's a nice car and drives reasonably well. Tiguan is nicer in good trim. Ateca drives the best but is the smallest. Kuga is wallowy

    That sounds like a great deal for CRV.

    Do you mind me asking did you buy from garage, or privately?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Superfoods wrote: »
    Are you talking about SUV or Crossover?


    A car is not far more practical. A higher car is a lot easier to put kids in/out of. Not sure why people are trying to deny it, it is a known fact and I have yet to find a parent who doesn't admit that.

    Ok. When they start climbing in (2 years +) an estate is far easier and safer.
    Easier to put a buggy into an estate.
    And an estate has way more room in boot and can have huge space between front and rear seats meaning kids don't put feet up on back of drivers seat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭Superfoods


    Ok. When they start climbing in (2 years +) an estate is far easier and safer.
    Easier to put a buggy into an estate.
    And an estate has way more room in boot and can have huge space between front and rear seats meaning kids don't put feet up on back of drivers seat.


    Are you talking about a Crossover?


    In the US they have stop selling cars because they don't buy them anymore. Expect it to come into Europe soon. Progress is here, the car will soon be dead. Estate or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Ok. When they start climbing in (2 years +) an estate is far easier and safer.
    Easier to put a buggy into an estate.
    And an estate has way more room in boot and can have huge space between front and rear seats meaning kids don't put feet up on back of drivers seat.

    Have a Leon estate and a CRV. Double buggy goes into each equally easily.

    CRV and Kuga have fine big boots


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    chases0102 wrote: »
    That sounds like a great deal for CRV.

    Do you mind me asking did you buy from garage, or privately?

    Garage
    SERE Lisburn. Seat main dealer


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Superfoods wrote: »
    Are you talking about SUV or Crossover?


    A car is not far more practical. A higher car is a lot easier to put kids in/out of. Not sure why people are trying to deny it, it is a known fact and I have yet to find a parent who doesn't admit that.

    I'm a parent, and this known fact has somehow failed to get to me, despite having one of each vehicle type in the house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭Superfoods


    Hurrache wrote: »
    I'm a parent, and this known fact has somehow failed to get to me, despite having one of each vehicle type in the house.


    The OP asked for a SUV/Crossover

    Maybe, just maybe, every one of these threads doesn't have to have the same bulls**t from the same few posters just because they bought a awful looking estate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    LOL. Yeah, you got them, that's it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭forestgirl


    Vw Passat estate is the only way to go,so much room for double buggy shopping suit cases and basically anything you need to transport. Suv have the higher driving position which is nice but they are really small in the cabin area and forget the boot space


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Superfoods wrote: »
    The OP asked for a SUV/Crossover

    Maybe, just maybe, every one of these threads doesn't have to have the same bulls**t from the same few posters just because they bought a awful looking estate

    you are the person using foul language

    I just know which type of car I'd prefer to be driving if a family decide to go down to Kerry for a weekend, or head to the beach.
    estate's are also safer when driving to and from schools or in urban areas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭Superfoods


    you are the person using foul language

    I just know which type of car I'd prefer to be driving if a family decide to go down to Kerry for a weekend, or head to the beach.
    estate's are also safer when driving to and from schools or in urban areas


    The thread title is "SUV advice", the OP said in first post they are looking for a SUV/Crossover. Not sure what is so confusing that you need to post about your personal preference for an estate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Superfoods wrote: »
    The thread title is "SUV advice", the OP said in first post they are looking for a SUV/Crossover. Not sure what is so confusing that you need to post about your personal preference for an estate?

    Not so sure why you feel the need to get all hot and bothered over a suggestion to the OP that they may not have considered.;)


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