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Are there any universally loved Irish people

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  • Registered Users Posts: 572 ✭✭✭bureau2009


    Interesting that nobody has nominated......Twink!


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭NedLowry


    Ray D'arcy


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,613 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    8-10 wrote: »
    Agreed. He's an excellent broadcaster and smart interviewer.

    There's a certain smoothness that the best broadcasters have and you're seeing it less and less these days. Kenny has always just had that comfortable style in the role.

    I don't really get why some dislike him, but he's certainly not bad at what he does.

    That's also why I mentioned Terry Wogan in this thread. He had the same smoothness.

    Was Wogan not universally loved?

    Wogan was definitely universally loved in England, his radio show used to have over 8 million listeners waiting on his every word, there was a certain magic about his radio broadcasts.

    Pat Kenny a good broadcaster but I think that whole mess where he tried to steal his next door neighbours garden sticks in peoples minds. He seemed to think because he was cutting the grass and the hedges for his elderly neighbour that he could just claim the (very valuable) land for himself when his neighbour was in his 80's The fact he let it go to court showed he thought he was in the right. Like he knew he wasnt the legal owner of the land but still thought he would be able to grab it for free. When travellers squat on land we give out, it shouldnt be any different for when Pat Kenny did it in Killiney.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Peg, the white horse that Jackie Healy-Rae owned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,525 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Andy Lee


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  • Registered Users Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    joeguevara wrote: »
    What demographic has this new view of Michael D Higgins. He is probably the most loved President in my lifetime and I’m going back to Patrick Hillary.

    He is a believer in social justice but also follows through and includes students and young people from socially deprived areas when other politicians and advocates pay lip service.

    Every speech he makes is a piece of art which includes literary references, educational references and examples to bring it to real life so people can understand it.

    He is a Gaelgoir and is constantly promoting our native language while others deride it.

    He has been part of major steps forward in inclusion in our country and not hid behind red tape. For example when the same s3x marriage was voted through by 1.2 million people, he signed it into law, not on a whim but knowledge even where people with no legal basis or case tried to delay or rescind with no other reason but hate.

    To say he changes his voice is crazy. He’s sounded the same his whole life. He also treats dignitaries and less fortunate as equals and never allows pomp to trump human life.

    And when you saw him shaking hands with the Irish Rugby Team dwarfed beside Devin Toner, you cant not love him.

    He carries himself very well but there are issues there. The amount of money he is costing is one, the hypocrisy in running a second terms when he had categorically ruled it out to get elected the first time and then the crawing about property developers when he was in the process of evicting some students so he could flip a property himself


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,196 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    palmcut wrote: »

    Willie Duggan

    The teacher?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    He carries himself very well but there are issues there. The amount of money he is costing is one, the hypocrisy in running a second terms when he had categorically ruled it out to get elected the first time and then the crawing about property developers when he was in the process of evicting some students so he could flip a property himself

    Interesting. Firstly Michael D was the first president to ever implement a full fiscal and financial review of all spending in Áras an Uachtaráin. It has been disingenuously posted by countless people that The spending is all for his benefit. In his first term his food spend was 1.7 million but that included oveer 1500 state dinners and functions, he spent 40k on books and stationery but every state dignatary that comes to Ireland gets a personalised letter and a book so that carefully chosen to put Ireland in a positive light in areas such as trade, tourism and foreign relations. Also he is the first person in Presidential history to return an underspend of his budget to the exchequer of 240k. He also has sanctioned a further cost saving for all areas in Áras to ensure we get the best value.

    The House eviction. Love this one. So 6 college students in a house in galway that belonged to Michael and his wife which they purchased when he entered Áras as he had no other home. Now when the lease ended in June, when College finished, he agreed with no additional income to extend it so that they can hang around galway. Now, due to a tax break the property needed to be sold so he told the students (who all had family homes and were paying no rent to stay there) that he needs the property as agreed. This turned into students evicted from apartment block to greed Michael.

    2nd term, he wanted to complete financial savings, popular opinion wanted him and his health had improved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,175 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Jean Byrne


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    The teacher?

    One of the best 2nd rows we ever had who’d smoke two fags from the dressing to the pitch.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Widely reported. Can you show me one report? I love that word allegedly and then widely reported. It’s very strange that Heathers family never once had a bad word to say about him and how much he adored her.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/clarkes-love-split-caused-by-girlfriends-extravagant-lifestyle-26283183.html

    That’s the first link. There was way more in depth views. He was forced pre potentially winning sports personality

    You can goigle if you like to see the tabloid view. And I know some journalists who say it is the tip


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,196 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    joeguevara wrote: »
    One of the best 2nd rows we ever had who’d smoke two fags from the dressing to the pitch.

    Still sounds like the teacher! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Still sounds like the teacher! :pac:

    He used to own a lint shop in Kilkenny.


  • Registered Users Posts: 880 ✭✭✭seamusk84


    Anyone at Simon Delaney yet?

    Genuine Irish man. He’s a breadth of fresh air on weekend mornings.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    seamusk84 wrote: »
    Anyone at Simon Delaney yet?

    Genuine Irish man. He’s a breadth of fresh air on weekend mornings.

    Rovers loving scum


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,328 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Well that escalated quickly.

    The only real way of judging this should be which name takes the longest for a boards poster to come in and point out they're a dick

    How about...Gay Byrne?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    gypsy79 wrote: »
    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/clarkes-love-split-caused-by-girlfriends-extravagant-lifestyle-26283183.html

    That’s the first link. There was way more in depth views. He was forced pre potentially winning sports personality

    You can goigle if you like to see the tabloid view. And I know some journalists who say it is the tip

    Did you read the link. He split up with his girlfriend. But he only started seeing her 4 months after his wife’s death. He realised it was too soon and realised it was too painful on him and his kids. You said he was cheating while his wife was dying which even in the link you provided says they started a relationship 4 months after her death.

    So while a grieving man was trying to get in with life, was looking after his kids single handedly, became close to a friend all after the death of his beloved wife is evidence of him being a despicable person. And proof of all this, the BBC decide to not give sports person of the year to the face and heart of a Ryder Cup Winning team but gave it instead to a bucktooth privileged toff who won gold in a 3 day eventing world championship that hadn’t anywhere near the standards of the Olympics which would make sense. But she did emulate her mother Princess Royal in winning.

    In contrast Clarke after holing an amazing 16th green, broke down in tears as he had promised his wife he’d win it. Crowds from both teams embraced him while crying. He said he knew he couldn’t keep crying for himself and his children’s sake and vowed to try and rebuild his life. Yeah despicable man.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Did you read the link. He split up with his girlfriend. But he only started seeing her 4 months after his wife’s death. He realised it was too soon and realised it was too painful on him and his kids. You said he was cheating while his wife was dying which even in the link you provided says they started a relationship 4 months after her death.

    So while a grieving man was trying to get in with life, was looking after his kids single handedly, became close to a friend all after the death of his beloved wife is evidence of him being a despicable person. And proof of all this, the BBC decide to not give sports person of the year to the face and heart of a Ryder Cup Winning team but gave it instead to a bucktooth privileged toff who won gold in a 3 day eventing world championship that hadn’t anywhere near the standards of the Olympics which would make sense. But she did emulate her mother Princess Royal in winning.

    In contrast Clarke after holing an amazing 16th green, broke down in tears as he had promised his wife he’d win it. Crowds from both teams embraced him while crying. He said he knew he couldn’t keep crying for himself and his children’s sake and vowed to try and rebuild his life. Yeah despicable man.

    I am not going to argue with you. You aren’t for changing. You won’t even dig. .

    But there were accusations And insinuating articles all over place.

    And I have been told stories that were afraid to report.

    Believe what you like buddy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,613 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Edgware wrote: »
    Very impressive memorials to both Joey and Robert Dunlop in Ballymoney. Well worth visiting if in Antrim.

    Joey Dunlop was universally loved, especially up north where motorbike racing is a way of life and he has a god like status within that community. His funeral had over 50,000 people in attendance which says it all.

    One thing though about Joey was the utter humbleness of the man. Not only was he one of the worlds best motorcycle racers winning trophies and titles all over the place he was also a humanitarian with a huge sense of empathy for others. After the fall of the Ceauceau regime in Romania he heard the reports of starving Romanian children in orphanages. It moved him so much that in the following winter he filled up his transit van with childrens toys, blankets, food, nappies and clothes and got the ferry to Scotland then another one to Holland and then drove right across Germany and through eastern Europe all the way to Romania to distribute everything he had to children in the orphanages.

    He kept making these trips in the winter when the motorcycle racing season was finished. In following years he expanded his operation even further from Romania and began distributing to orphanages in Bosnia and also as far down south as Albania. Bosnia was in a full scale civil war at the time and he was risking his own life even being there but there was Joey just carrying on through a war zone in his van distributing clothes, toys and food to unwanted children in orphanages.

    He did all this on his own and never wanted any attention or credit for it. It became an annual trip for him and he would barely tell anyone what he was doing and where he was going. At the time only his wife and a few close friends knew what he was doing and even in later years he wouldnt talk about it to journalists who asked. It was just a private thing for him, he was so moved by the desperate conditions in these orphanages that he had to just keep going and going trying to help them. He was an absolute legend on the racetrack but equally off it he was a giant of a man who always remained grounded and humble.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    gypsy79 wrote: »
    I am not going to argue with you. You aren’t for changing. You won’t even dig. .

    But there were accusations And insinuating articles all over place.

    And I have been told stories that were afraid to report.

    Believe what you like buddy.

    Honestly I hope it’s not true but if it was I’d have to reconsider. I’m not one of these people entrenched in a view and stonewall everything (except when someone says Phil Lynott is regarded as British), I was pulling the p1ss saying Martin sheen was Irish (but his Tipperary mother and uncle is true). But I couldn’t find any articles and even checked to see if Heathers family had said anything after. But they are so complimentary. But i would never believe the British gutter press Denigrating an Irish hero especially as at the time it was controlled by Max Clifford, best friend of Prince Andrew....and guess what because of those accusations Zara wins the trophy. Couldn’t have written it better myself.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,745 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Wasn’t Jesus Irish. He was 33, a virgin and still living with his mother.
    And he thought his mother had never sinned and she though the was the son of God.

    Checks out....


    ...except for the three wise men.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Dermot Morgan is the clear winner I think

    Rory Gallagher coming in second

    Joey Dunlop probably third


    Never hear a bad word about them (for viewers in NI, so you don't)

    Of course they've all gone off to their eternal reward now so are even more loved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,525 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Joey Dunlop was universally loved, especially up north where motorbike racing is a way of life and he has a god like status within that community. His funeral had over 50,000 people in attendance which says it all.

    One thing though about Joey was the utter humbleness of the man. Not only was he one of the worlds best motorcycle racers winning trophies and titles all over the place he was also a humanitarian with a huge sense of empathy for others. After the fall of the Ceauceau regime in Romania he heard the reports of starving Romanian children in orphanages. It moved him so much that in the following winter he filled up his transit van with childrens toys, blankets, food, nappies and clothes and got the ferry to Scotland then another one to Holland and then drove right across Germany and through eastern Europe all the way to Romania to distribute everything he had to children in the orphanages.

    He kept making these trips in the winter when the motorcycle racing season was finished. In following years he expanded his operation even further from Romania and began distributing to orphanages in Bosnia and also as far down south as Albania. Bosnia was in a full scale civil war at the time and he was risking his own life even being there but there was Joey just carrying on through a war zone in his van distributing clothes, toys and food to unwanted children in orphanages.

    He did all this on his own and never wanted any attention or credit for it. It became an annual trip for him and he would barely tell anyone what he was doing and where he was going. At the time only his wife and a few close friends knew what he was doing and even in later years he wouldnt talk about it to journalists who asked. It was just a private thing for him, he was so moved by the desperate conditions in these orphanages that he had to just keep going and going trying to help them. He was an absolute legend on the racetrack but equally off it he was a giant of a man who always remained grounded and humble.

    News of Joey Dunlop’s death was announced at half time in Clones at that years Ulster final. There was a collective gasp and then silence throughout the whole crowd as though a family member had died. When in a place like NI you can be that universally loved and respected by both communities it says everything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,525 ✭✭✭golfball37


    And he thought his mother had never sinned and she though the was the son of God.

    Checks out....


    ...except for the three wise men.

    They came from a foreign land in the east so entirely possible


  • Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Kerry25x


    Has Louis Walsh been mentioned already?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Joey Dunlop was universally loved, especially up north where motorbike racing is a way of life and he has a god like status within that community. His funeral had over 50,000 people in attendance which says it all.

    One thing though about Joey was the utter humbleness of the man. Not only was he one of the worlds best motorcycle racers winning trophies and titles all over the place he was also a humanitarian with a huge sense of empathy for others. After the fall of the Ceauceau regime in Romania he heard the reports of starving Romanian children in orphanages. It moved him so much that in the following winter he filled up his transit van with childrens toys, blankets, food, nappies and clothes and got the ferry to Scotland then another one to Holland and then drove right across Germany and through eastern Europe all the way to Romania to distribute everything he had to children in the orphanages.

    He kept making these trips in the winter when the motorcycle racing season was finished. In following years he expanded his operation even further from Romania and began distributing to orphanages in Bosnia and also as far down south as Albania. Bosnia was in a full scale civil war at the time and he was risking his own life even being there but there was Joey just carrying on through a war zone in his van distributing clothes, toys and food to unwanted children in orphanages.

    He did all this on his own and never wanted any attention or credit for it. It became an annual trip for him and he would barely tell anyone what he was doing and where he was going. At the time only his wife and a few close friends knew what he was doing and even in later years he wouldnt talk about it to journalists who asked. It was just a private thing for him, he was so moved by the desperate conditions in these orphanages that he had to just keep going and going trying to help them. He was an absolute legend on the racetrack but equally off it he was a giant of a man who always remained grounded and humble.

    I was doing collections of material in Ballyclare and was getting a luke warm enough reception but when I started asking about Joey and where I could go to see his memorial people's attitude changed completely. They couldnt believe how much respect he was held in by people down south without going into the north south ****e the soccer crew are obsessed about


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    And he thought his mother had never sinned and she though the was the son of God.

    Checks out....


    ...except for the three wise men.
    And his father worked on the buildings


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Edgware wrote: »
    I was doing collections of material in Ballyclare and was getting a luke warm enough reception but when I started asking about Joey and where I could go to see his memorial people's attitude changed completely. They couldnt believe how much respect he was held in by people down south without going into the north south ****e the soccer crew are obsessed about

    I think the motorcycle community are just so close and travel to all the competitions. Also it’s a brotherhood that’s always there to help each other. I always think one of the main reasons is that while the riders are experts is one of the most dangerous sports so when riders compete petty things like religion, creed etc are not relevant. Also the whole Dunlop families were so generous to charities, to team mates, helping all the time. Everyone was world class and what a heartbreaking loss to them and everyone. As a kid i adores the Isle of Man TT and played the amstrad computer game constantly pretending i was Joey. Fair play to who mentioned both as they are people who wouldn’t have crossed my mind but couldn’t think of two more revered men.


  • Registered Users Posts: 572 ✭✭✭bureau2009


    The Nolans.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    I was going to include George Best but he acted the bollix after he got the liver transplant when it could have been given to someone who really needed it.

    After he got his liver?? He was a bollox, end of story.


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