F1 2020 :Round 8 Monza

redlead

As someone that's a big fan of formula one but wouldn't consider myself particularly knowledgeable on it as I've only really gotten really into it over the last three or four years, are Renault team that is massively underachieving? I would have assumed money isn't an issue for them.

Harika

redlead wrote: »

As someone that's a big fan of formula one but wouldn't consider myself particularly knowledgeable on it as I've only really gotten really into it over the last three or four years, are Renault team that is massively underachieving? I would have assumed money isn't an issue for them.

You need to build up a team, (Mercedes has 1000 people employed) working together with an up to date factory. This takes time and if you look at Ferrari you can't simply buy success.

H3llR4iser

Crofty crying about Bottas not "waiting" for Lewis is next-level cringe

Cool_CM

Harika wrote: »

You need to build up a team, (Mercedes has 1000 people employed) working together with an up to date factory. This takes time and if you look at Ferrari you can't simply buy success.

Also, the really important part here is the "working together" bit that Ferrari seem to have completely forgotten about

skipper_G

Great lap from Sainz!

This is it

Awesome from Sainz and Perez

Tzardine

Great to see Mclaren and Renault doing well again.

ctrl-alt-delete

8 tenths of a second over the rest

Cool_CM

Sainz making the most of things in a good car - great lap!

The cameras also did that Hamilton lap justice - that was fupin' immense.

Indestructable

0.800s behind the Mercs in P3. Party mode my eye, that car is glued to the road.

recyclebin

The Sainz look good for McLaren!

AMKC

redlead wrote: »

As someone that's a big fan of formula one but wouldn't consider myself particularly knowledgeable on it as I've only really gotten really into it over the last three or four years, are Renault team that is massively underachieving? I would have assumed money isn't an issue for them.

Not at all. They had a bad year last year but the year before done fairly good. They have improved a lot this year and will do so next year too. They are still building the team. Renault have a lot of resources yes but not the unlimited budget and resources that Mercedes and Ferrari have and came close I would say to pulling out this year but thankfully did not. They will have Alonso next year too which hopefully will see them improving more.

AMKC

Something needs to be done with Free practice and Qualifying at Monza. It's just dangerous with them all bunching up like that. Maybe the fast cars should be sent out to do there laps first say Mercedes, McLaren,Renault, Red Bull and Racing Point and then the other cars go out after the fast cars have set there time.

Hijpo

AMKC wrote: »

Something needs to be done with Free practice and Qualifying at Monza. It's just dangerous with them all bunching up like that. Maybe the fast cars should be sent out to do there laps first say Mercedes, McLaren,Renault, Red Bull and Racing Point and then the other cars go out after the fast cars have set there time.

Russel made a decent point, go out as per the constructor standings with a gap between.

This is it

Why is it that Monza is worse than other places, why do they bunch up like that? I understand the tow bit they were using team mates, why do all teams go out together there?

Frank Bullitt

"Schumacher wins at Monza"

I will take that.

AMKC

Hijpo wrote: »

Russel made a decent point, go out as per the constructor standings with a gap between.

Exactly so Mercedes should be out first as they are top and have the fastest cat so go do there lap then Red Bull the McLaren then Renayot etc untill we get to Haas and William's. It would give the slower cars a better chance as well as there would be more rubber down on the track for them to do there laps and they could push harder in there cars
Who's knows it might even end up surprising us maybe a Willisms would get into the top 10 and Bottas might actually push his car and beat Hamilton knowing if he does not he could end up further down. I think that is what needs to be done next year and every year after that here.

Burkie1203

AMKC wrote: »

Something needs to be done with Free practice and Qualifying at Monza. It's just dangerous with them all bunching up like that. Maybe the fast cars should be sent out to do there laps first say Mercedes, McLaren,Renault, Red Bull and Racing Point and then the other cars go out after the fast cars have set there time.

Quali should be both cars from one team out in turn. 10 laps max between them so they can give a tow etc. Draw lots to decide the order.

H3llR4iser

This is it wrote: »

Why is it that Monza is worse than other places, why do they bunch up like that? I understand the tow bit they were using team mates, why do all teams go out together there?

Gonna be the same with the Bahrain outer track - lots of straight and relatively short lap, means 0.1-0.2 sec might make a difference of 4-5 places on the grid. As I said before, you didn't see this ridiculous carry on in the past.



The easiest solution is to impose a maximum time to drive from the pit exit line to the start line of the hotlap, otherwise your next timed lap is invalidated - or even better, you lose ALL TIMING in the session up to that point. They already have the system in place to monitor that with the VSC system and to show the "delta" on the dashboard for each driver. Make it a fairly sharp limit too - so they can't dawdle around, like 1m30s for Monza or whereabouts.

Inquitus

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Gonna be the same with the Bahrain outer track - lots of straight and relatively short lap, means 0.1-0.2 sec might make a difference of 4-5 places on the grid. As I said before, you didn't see this ridiculous carry on in the past.



The easiest solution is to impose a maximum time to drive from the pit exit line to the start line of the hotlap, otherwise your next timed lap is invalidated - or even better, you lose ALL TIMING in the session up to that point. They already have the system in place to monitor that with the VSC system and to show the "delta" on the dashboard for each driver. Make it a fairly sharp limit too - so they can't dawdle around, like 1m30s for Monza or whereabouts.

They did set a time of 1min43 as the slowest you can go on a non hot lap!

Dont be at yourself

Bahrain 2 will be mental. A 55s lap means an average track distance between cars of less than 3s down the field in Q1. Surely unworkable.

afatbollix

Did I miss it but did Hamilton not show up for the end racism bit?

Burkie1203

DC works for sky now?

deafroadrunner

I can't see anything other then a Lewis win.

Hijpo

deafroadrunner wrote: »

I can't see anything other then a Lewis win.

And fastest lap?

PsychoPete

Never thought I'd see Ferrari at 375/1 to win a race

deafroadrunner

Hijpo wrote: »

And fastest lap?

I'd actually go with bottas for that. Or maybe max

PsychoPete

Excellent stuff from Mclaren

ctrl-alt-delete

Bottas setting a new low

At last some excitement