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Clifden Flooding

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,102 Mod ✭✭✭✭ DOCARCH


    Looks rough!


  • Registered Users Posts: 902 ✭✭✭ Silver-Tiger




  • Registered Users Posts: 9,391 ✭✭✭ Oscar Bravo


    Hope everyone is ok over there. Some serious damage has been done


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,454 ✭✭✭ Storm 10




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭ timmyntc


    Apparently sitka spruce plantations and associated drainage works a few km upstream of Clifden are likely to have contributed - previously boggy land wouldn't have drained so quickly.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭ Hoboo



    First time ever my mouth has actually dropped open, holy ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,086 ✭✭✭✭ Harry Palmr


    Was this forecast?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭ Hoboo


    timmyntc wrote: »
    Apparently sitka spruce plantations and associated drainage works a few km upstream of Clifden are likely to have contributed - previously boggy land wouldn't have drained so quickly.

    Would boggy land not already be saturated and worse? I've no idea, just an assumption.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,086 ✭✭✭✭ Harry Palmr


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Would boggy land not already be saturated and worse? I've no idea, just an assumption.

    It's the difference between a sponge (boggy land) and a cloth (plantation land) one can absorb a lot and release it slowly the other is saturated very quickly and absorbs no more


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭ pauldry


    These 1 in 40 year events seem to be occurring 1 in 40 days now.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,454 ✭✭✭ Storm 10


    Was this forecast?

    Connacht was not included in last nights warning it went up very quick this morning but either way what could you have done with that amount of rain. I never saw such colors that were on the radar in the early hours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,086 ✭✭✭✭ Harry Palmr


    So they failed to predict the track of the most intense rainfall.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,454 ✭✭✭ Storm 10


    So they failed to predict the track of the most intense rainfall.

    Love to know how much rain fell last night must have been some amount to do that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 544 Hawthorn Tree


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Love to know how much rain fell last night must have been some amount to do that

    Not much before midnight but then 2 heavy hours after that at Mace Head.

    3am report was 8mm
    5am report was 7.5mm


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭ snaps


    Has Clifden ever flooded like this before?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,554 ✭✭✭✭ sryanbruen


    Connemara National Park recorded 59mm between midnight and 8 a.m. this morning with a daily total of 59.6mm to now.

    Maam Valley had 47mm in the same period with a daily total of 54.8mm to now.

    https://wow.met.ie/

    Weather and climate site - https://www.ukandirelandclimate.com/ (advised to view on PC, not optimised for mobile)

    Photography site - https://www.sryanbruenphoto.com/



  • Registered Users Posts: 155 ✭✭ watlantic


    Renvyle (north Connemara) had 48.3mm up to now. Newport in Mayo 39.6mm while I'm at 33.5mm now and it's just starting lash down again.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 15,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Gonzo


    those showers look very intense moving into Galway and Mayo.They could easily dump another 5 to 10mm of rainfall on top of everything that fell last night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭ Assetbacked


    Terrible not including Galway in the weather warning. Only updated at 9am but we had heavy rain overnight (Letterfrack) and had floods already by that time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,454 ✭✭✭ Storm 10


    Gonzo wrote: »
    those showers look very intense moving into Galway and Mayo.They could easily dump another 5 to 10mm of rainfall on top of everything that fell last night.

    Jez just checked them now and they are growing in intensity could be a lot more flooding, hope not heart goes out to anyone who gets their house damaged by weather.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,454 ✭✭✭ Storm 10


    snaps wrote: »
    Has Clifden ever flooded like this before?

    Some person on local radio who lives in Clifden said that the river has never flooded like this in his lifetime, so something wrong upstream


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭ ednwireland


    40mm in SW Donegal so far today


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭ Nabber




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭ ednwireland


    http://slowtheflow.net/hardcastle-crags-our-most-successful-project-to-date/

    they are looking seriously at issues like this in the steep sided valleys in west yorkshire

    Coillte never seem to learn anything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭ Hoboo


    It's the difference between a sponge (boggy land) and a cloth (plantation land) one can absorb a lot and release it slowly the other is saturated very quickly and absorbs no more

    Thanks for explaining, never knew that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭ ratracer


    http://slowtheflow.net/hardcastle-crags-our-most-successful-project-to-date/

    they are looking seriously at issues like this in the steep sided valleys in west yorkshire

    Coillte never seem to learn anything.

    Coillte, and by extension the Irish taxpayer are currently paying €15k a day in fines to the EU for the last 3-4 months for the poor management of uplands in Derrybrien in South Galway, which has been responsible for flooding there for years since the building of wind farms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,540 ✭✭✭✭ Thelonious Monk


    They've been warning about this for ages. Our bare uplands and stripped bogs will only lead to more and more of this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭ Popoutman


    timmyntc wrote: »
    Apparently sitka spruce plantations and associated drainage works a few km upstream of Clifden are likely to have contributed - previously boggy land wouldn't have drained so quickly.

    The forestry plantations will have reduced the floodwater peak from what it would have been otherwise - the root systems slow down the runoff. Now, if there was a large swathe of recently felled forestry, that would revert the behaviour to pre-forestry runoff speeds.

    Bogs can take in a lot of water for sure, but only up to a certain rate. Above that rainfall rate the extra runs straight off. Source? I've a mate who is a forestry manager, and I've also observed this behaviour after 25 years of watching floodwater levels on Irish streams with my kayaking background.

    I would suspect that if it were not for the forestry work, there would have been a mudflow/bogflow situation with the peat mobilising similar to that at the Dawn of Hope Bridge in Sligo and that would have been significantly worse for the Clifden residents.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭ Popoutman


    Also - the videos linked above would have been *so* much better in landscape mode instead of the dumb portrait mode most people record in. We would then have been able to get a better scale of the damage and destruction without a need to pan around as much.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,454 ✭✭✭ Storm 10


    Popoutman wrote: »
    Also - the videos linked above would have been *so* much better in landscape mode instead of the dumb portrait mode most people record in. We would then have been able to get a better scale of the damage and destruction without a need to pan around as much.

    It's beyond me why people film in portrait mode it's a waste of a good capture of any incident


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