Rate my Team 20/21

Green&Red

Wood has crazy stats. Something like 58 of his 70 odd shots last year were inside the box and “big chances”

Dearg81

Green&Red wrote: »

Wood has crazy stats. Something like 58 of his 70 odd shots last year were inside the box and “big chances”

Yea everything seems to go through Wood in attack.

CSF

Am I the only one who thinks Williams has looked awful every time he has played?

He is young so it’s not a stab at his future but I can’t see him as a legitimate beneficiary of any of Trent’s meaningful minutes this season. He isn’t a worthy deputy.

ThunbergsAreGo

CSF wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks Williams has looked awful every time he has played?

He is young so it’s not a stab at his future but I can’t see him as a legitimate beneficiary of any of Trent’s meaningful minutes this season. He isn’t a worthy deputy.

When he started in the league I agree.

I think we'd see Gomez at RB before Williams starts an important game

Green&Red

Probably lots of tinkering to go yet but currently on

Johnstone - Button
Williams (Utd) - TAA - Robbo - Doherty - Palace 4m
Pepe - Perez - Salah - Ritchie - Gordon
Kane - Werner - 4.5m

Plan to turn Salah into Bruno in GW2, while I don’t think United will be anywhere close this season they have great fixtures and Ole’s team has shown they can go through patches where they are unstoppable. Probably C Bruno for a lot of the first 6/7 GWs apart from GW4 where Werner will get it.

Pepe could easily become Zichek but if I’m going without Auba he gives some coverage. Either him or Perez will turn into Mahrez.

Salah could also be Auba for the first week, having decided yet. I don’t think two London derbies are as good a fixture as everyone thinks for Arsenal

gormdubhgorm

Green&Red wrote: »

Probably lots of tinkering to go yet but currently on

Johnstone - Button
Williams (Utd) - TAA - Robbo - Doherty - Palace 4m
Pepe - Perez - Salah - Ritchie - Gordon
Kane - Werner - 4.5m

Plan to turn Salah into Bruno in GW2, while I don’t think United will be anywhere close this season they have great fixtures and Ole’s team has shown they can go through patches where they are unstoppable. Probably C Bruno for a lot of the first 6/7 GWs apart from GW4 where Werner will get it.

Pepe could easily become Zichek but if I’m going without Auba he gives some coverage. Either him or Perez will turn into Mahrez.

Salah could also be Auba for the first week, having decided yet. I don’t think two London derbies are as good a fixture as everyone thinks for Arsenal

I think Fulham could be in for a battering against Arsenal. If there were crowds I would agree with your point on derbies. But no crowds change that. You seem to have a rough plan anyway which is the main thing and not afraid to drop any player if benefits your side. If only Mayo had the same attitude!

Ritchie and Perez are what I would call sneaky shrewd picks. Personally I would prefer JWP to Perez though. Dunno why JWP is not in more teams fixtures set p and captain!

Green&Red

Cheers. I’ve considered JWP alright, I’ve had Armstrong in there instead of Ritchie so that kinda led me off him.

I saw a stat somewhere that he was top for chances created in mids under 9m, must look it up again


The attraction with Perez is that if he goes off the ceiling is massive, he’s a premium player when he’s on a streak, he’s a turd when he’s not

Brian201888

Martinez is being tipped with a move away, wouldn't read too much into him playing yesterday.

Brian201888

No idea what's going on with the site, the last post was a team with Martinez when I did that

CSF

Brian201888 wrote: »

Martinez is being tipped with a move away, wouldn't read too much into him playing yesterday.

The good thing with Martinez/Leno, is with media attention, there is a good chance we will know who is in goal for the early game vs Fulham, before even the extended deadline of 90 mins.

gormdubhgorm

CSF wrote: »

The good thing with Martinez/Leno, is with media attention, there is a good chance we will know who is in goal for the early game vs Fulham, before even the extended deadline of 90 mins.

I think McCarthy has better fixtures though overall and is assured to start - I'm sticking with him.

Dubliner28

Taughts please. Perhaps a bit weak in the midfield

McCarthy (Pope)
TAA Coady Tierney Egan Dallas
Mane Son Stephens Lundssturm St Maxiam
Werner Kane Mitrovic

gormdubhgorm

Dubliner28 wrote: »

Taughts please. Perhaps a bit weak in the midfield

McCarthy (Pope)
TAA Coady Tierney Egan Dallas
Mane Son Stephens Lundssturm St Maxiam
Werner Kane Mitrovic

A lot spend on keepers but they are two good ones. I saw some consider Martinez and McCarthy bit of a gamble but could save you 1.0m
Coady could be changed to Vinagre for 4.5 if Wolves do not sign another full back as Jonny is injured.
Not sure of the value of Lundstram listed as a midfielder this year.
Would maybe go one of Armstrong/Soucek/Ritchie instead of him.

Green&Red

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I think McCarthy has better fixtures though overall and is assured to start - I'm sticking with him.

Someone here made the point previously of getting Johnstone, likely to face lots of shots, WBA are a tight enough team and it allows you to get KWP or Lamptey without doubling up on their defence. Made a lot of sense to me

Dearg81

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I think McCarthy has better fixtures though overall and is assured to start - I'm sticking with him.

Southampton are rumoured to be after Butland.

Pete_Cavan

Green&Red wrote: »

Someone here made the point previously of getting Johnstone, likely to face lots of shots, WBA are a tight enough team and it allows you to get KWP or Lamptey without doubling up on their defence. Made a lot of sense to me

Do people expect Lamptey to be first choice and how will their defence line out in general?

gormdubhgorm

Dearg81 wrote: »

Southampton are rumoured to be after Butland.

Back to square one if that happens! :eek:

gormdubhgorm

Green&Red wrote: »

Someone here made the point previously of getting Johnstone, likely to face lots of shots, WBA are a tight enough team and it allows you to get KWP or Lamptey without doubling up on their defence. Made a lot of sense to me

I got the impression that West Brom are a lot different to Pullis era West Brom - people saying they are more attacking. With Perreira etc

Trimm Trabb

Anyone thinking about going without any Man Utd players?

Blank in GW1 and then after excellent GW2 & GW3 (Palace and Brighton) games they have tricky looking fixtures. They aren't in my draft right now with KDB, Salah, Werner and Son taking the premium slots but it is the one thing gnawing away at me, especially as that Palace game in GW2 is there most captainable fixture where they could win by 3/4 goals - is it something anyone else is considering?

extra gravy

McCarthy Nyland
TAA Vinagre Dier Justin Mitchell
Salah Auba Ziyech Soucek Bissouma
Ings Adams Werner

Ings/Salah to Fernandes/Martial GW2. Don't really want Justin but I need a 4.5 that had good fixtures in 2 and 4 and he fits the bill. Feels a bit templatey, tempted by a punt on Allí instead of Ziyech. Will play Soucek as 4th mid for the first few weeks, fixtures might be be awful but wouldn't be surprised if he banged in a couple of goals.

Pete_Cavan

extra gravy wrote: »

McCarthy Nyland
TAA Vinagre Dier Justin Mitchell
Salah Auba Ziyech Soucek Bissouma
Ings Adams Werner

Ings/Salah to Fernandes/Martial GW2. Don't really want Justin but I need a 4.5 that had good fixtures in 2 and 4 and he fits the bill. Feels a bit templatey, tempted by a punt on Allí instead of Ziyech. Will play Soucek as 4th mid for the first few weeks, fixtures might be be awful but wouldn't be surprised if he banged in a couple of goals.

I can understand the desire to captain a ManU play in GW2 but I'm not sure it is worth a -4 to get two of their players. While they can destroy a team like Palace, ManU under Ole blow hot and cold a lot too. Looking beyond that, ManU play Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal up to GW7, I'd say Liverpool and City both have easier fixtures in that time so I don't see the sense in doubling up on Utd while not having Pool or City players.

extra gravy

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

I can understand the desire to captain a ManU play in GW2 but I'm not sure it is worth a -4 to get two of their players. While they can destroy a team like Palace, ManU under Ole blow hot and cold a lot too. Looking beyond that, ManU play Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal up to GW7, I'd say Liverpool and City both have easier fixtures in that time so I don't see the sense in doubling up on Utd while not having Pool or City players.

I didn't phrase that very well, would only be doing one of those moves based on how the first gameweek goes. Agree with you on that, Palace could also be stubborn opponents. KDB will be coming in for gameweek 3

Pete_Cavan

extra gravy wrote: »

I didn't phrase that very well, would only be doing one of those moves based on how the first gameweek goes. Agree with you on that, Palace could also be stubborn opponents. KDB will be coming in for gameweek 3

Oh right, yes bringing one in makes more sense. I would also question doubling up on Chelsea from the start, lot of new faces there so hard to know how they will line up or how they will play. My plan is to wait until GW3 before bringing in Chelsea assets.

hoopyhoopy

What's the Deal with Willian - Should shine for Arsenal and seems bargain @ 8mil - Not sure though will he start every game, any arsenal fans any insight into this??

Reckon Robertson for Liverpool is a must this season, even in the charity shield he created near all Pools chances in first half! Building my team around him and Aubameyang - Aubameyang should clean up now that he is down as a Midfielder -

ThunbergsAreGo

hoopyhoopy wrote: »

What's the Deal with Willian - Should shine for Arsenal and seems bargain @ 8mil - Not sure though will he start every game, any arsenal fans any insight into this??

Reckon Robertson for Liverpool is a must this season, even in the charity shield he created near all Pools chances in first half! Building my team around him and Aubameyang - Aubameyang should clean up now that he is down as a Midfielder -

Must disagree on Willian, he was only worth 7m at Chelsea (a better team) due to penalties. With Auba on pens, I dont see the value with him. Would rather Saka and the 2.5m

hoopyhoopy

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Must disagree on Willian, he was only worth 7m at Chelsea (a better team) due to penalties. With Auba on pens, I dont see the value with him. Would rather Saka and the 2.5m

Cheers for ruining my day and team :pac::D - yea great point re pennos!!

Colking

Green&Red wrote: »

Probably lots of tinkering to go yet but currently on

Johnstone - Button
Williams (Utd) - TAA - Robbo - Doherty - Palace 4m
Pepe - Perez - Salah - Ritchie - Gordon
Kane - Werner - 4.5m

Plan to turn Salah into Bruno in GW2, while I don’t think United will be anywhere close this season they have great fixtures and Ole’s team has shown they can go through patches where they are unstoppable. Probably C Bruno for a lot of the first 6/7 GWs apart from GW4 where Werner will get it.

Pepe could easily become Zichek but if I’m going without Auba he gives some coverage. Either him or Perez will turn into Mahrez.

Salah could also be Auba for the first week, having decided yet. I don’t think two London derbies are as good a fixture as everyone thinks for Arsenal

Interesting choices, good to see someone smashing the template!

I'd probably go back to your earlier pick of Armstrong over Ritchie. Newcastle are trying to use him as a make weight for Callum Wilson. Strangely he seems to be viewed as more of a back up player under the current management. Personally I'm always happy to see him starting as he gives 101% when he pulls on the jersey.

With the Williams pick are you limiting your Man Utd options? I remember after the restart when I had Maguire hanging around my team like a bad smell and it limited me to two attacking Man Utd assests.

Other than that very good.

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Pete_Cavan wrote: »

Oh right, yes bringing one in makes more sense. I would also question doubling up on Chelsea from the start, lot of new faces there so hard to know how they will line up or how they will play. My plan is to wait until GW3 before bringing in Chelsea assets.

I'm going to start with Werner anyway, he's over 40% ownership so if he bangs it will be a rank killer straight away. May not go with Ziyech but that 7-8m range isn't too inspiring.

joeyboy11

extra gravy wrote: »

I'm going to start with Werner anyway, he's over 40% ownership so if he bangs it will be a rank killer straight away. May not go with Ziyech but that 7-8m range isn't too inspiring.

I feel Werner will start well. Has been around the club and training with the team at the end of last season. Are you not confident in greenwood at the 7-8m price range or you want different Utd players?

sheroman01

Dearg81 wrote: »

Southampton are rumoured to be after Butland.

So strange that. He's been awful for Stoke in the last 2 years.

sheroman01

CSF wrote: »

The good thing with Martinez/Leno, is with media attention, there is a good chance we will know who is in goal for the early game vs Fulham, before even the extended deadline of 90 mins.

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I think McCarthy has better fixtures though overall and is assured to start - I'm sticking with him.

Exactly - I do think Martinez will be number 1 but McCarthy has better fixtures. Obviously wait for Butland news though.

joeyboy11

Green&Red wrote: »

Someone here made the point previously of getting Johnstone, likely to face lots of shots, WBA are a tight enough team and it allows you to get KWP or Lamptey without doubling up on their defence. Made a lot of sense to me

Listening to a podcast series this week (FPL planet) where they have a correspondent from each club.
The Fulham correspondent pointed out Rodak as a good shot stopper making at least 3 saves a game and Fulham are much improved defensively. But their defensive success may depend if they sign Harrison Reed from Southampton who was on loan with them last year as a defensive mid.
I'll probably stick with McCarthy but may go down this road if I get in KWP as I don't want to double up on Southampton defense.

ThunbergsAreGo

joeyboy11 wrote: »

Listening to a podcast series this week (FPL planet) where they have a correspondent from each club.
The Fulham correspondent pointed out Rodak as a good shot stopper making at least 3 saves a game and Fulham are much improved defensively. But their defensive success may depend if they sign Harrison Reed from Southampton who was on loan with them last year as a defensive mid.
I'll probably stick with McCarthy but may go down this road if I get in KWP as I don't want to double up on Southampton defense.

I think they signed him yesterday

macraignil

joeyboy11 wrote: »

I feel Werner will start well. Has been around the club and training with the team at the end of last season.

You got me thinking about trying to rejig the team to fit in Werner with that comment. Saw somewhere else that his ownership is high and just checked the site now and he is in 42.5% of teams which makes him the second most popular player choice. Any criticism of the latest draft appreciated:


McCarthy,

Robertson, Alexander-Arnold, Vinagre, Walker-Pieters
Salah, Aubameyang, Saint-Maximin
Werner, Ings, Mitrovic


Ryan, Soucek, Berge, Mitchell

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joeyboy11 wrote: »

I feel Werner will start well. Has been around the club and training with the team at the end of last season. Are you not confident in greenwood at the 7-8m price range or you want different Utd players?

Yeah Greenwood is one I'm considering but want to wait and see if United make any signings that might impact his gametime. Bruno and Martial are safer bets.

Chesty08

Green&Red wrote: »

Someone here made the point previously of getting Johnstone, likely to face lots of shots, WBA are a tight enough team and it allows you to get KWP or Lamptey without doubling up on their defence. Made a lot of sense to me

That was myself! I’m sticking with Johnstone as their are good options for cheap defenders without doubling up.

I noticed a comment on WBA not being a Pulis of old team. Agree they are not but Bilic has PL experience , he knows how important defence is & how a balance is needed. Look at how Sheff U adapted to coming up. We’ll see similar I think.

The key thing is though, Johnstone is a very good shot stopper and will hopefully rack up a lot of saves / bps.

Tbh i don’t see it as a massive punt & will definitely have more reward then going with McCarthy/Ryan etc... who we know what to expect!

machiavellianme

hoopyhoopy wrote: »

What's the Deal with Willian - Should shine for Arsenal and seems bargain @ 8mil - Not sure though will he start every game, any arsenal fans any insight into this??

Reckon Robertson for Liverpool is a must this season, even in the charity shield he created near all Pools chances in first half! Building my team around him and Aubameyang - Aubameyang should clean up now that he is down as a Midfielder -

Only because TAA wasn't ready. I wouldn't think it'll be so one sided once Trent returns.

The real mccoy 91

Only getting round to a rough first draft now had thought about having 1 city and 1 united otb for gw1 but gone against that now landed on

Johnstone button

James taa kwp bavies Johnson

Auba salah saka ziyech Pereira

Vardy mitrovic brewster

1.5 ITB johnson and brewster fodder

I'm happy to punt on mitro and Pereira going off last seasons form any goals in either team go through both of them majority of the time. Vardy starts with a nice run and can easily become kane/werner/martial depending on how teams look. Will he getting pulisic but in his absence ziyech seems like a fair alternative.

joeyboy11

macraignil wrote: »

You got me thinking about trying to rejig the team to fit in Werner with that comment. Saw somewhere else that his ownership is high and just checked the site now and he is in 42.5% of teams which makes him the second most popular player choice. Any criticism of the latest draft appreciated:


McCarthy,

Robertson, Alexander-Arnold, Vinagre, Walker-Pieters
Salah, Aubameyang, Saint-Maximin
Werner, Ings, Mitrovic


Ryan, Soucek, Berge, Mitchell

Also he played # 9 and scored in a one all preseason friendly on the weekend.

Team looks good to me. The only thing I would be wary of is a Southampton double up in defence and 3 of their players over all. Maybe a different 4.5 keeper in Ryan (Brighton), Johnstone (WBA) or Rodak (Fulham). Tripling up from the start might be an issue if one of their players like Adams or Armstrong starts the season on fire and you can’t get them in without a hit.

joeyboy11

extra gravy wrote: »

Yeah Greenwood is one I'm considering but want to wait and see if United make any signings that might impact his gametime. Bruno and Martial are safer bets.

True that is the optimum combination. I just really like Greenwood’s price for such a good finisher in a top 4 team but I will whip him out if a major signing comes in.

Chesty08

Seen a great Budget defence!!


Holding Mee Long White Koch

extra gravy

joeyboy11 wrote: »

True that is the optimum combination. I just really like Greenwood’s price for such a good finisher in a top 4 team but I will whip him out if a major signing comes in.

Yeah he looks like he could be great value. Are you just going to bench him for gameweek 1?

joeyboy11

extra gravy wrote: »

Yeah he looks like he could be great value. Are you just going to bench him for gameweek 1?

Benching him gw 1 and transfer in Bruno gw 2.

Dubliner28

Kane/Son or Ings/Auba?? for 1st few GW

nullObjects

Any concerns for Ziyech not starting GW1?
Seeing him in a few drafts still (Including my own)

Think it was a knee injury but he did walk off the pitch after it

ShimSlady

First cut and I think i'm happy with it

Ryan/McCarthy

Doherty, Saliba, VVD (Bernardo, Douglas)

Auba, Saint Maximin, Pulisic, Son (Perreira)

Ings, Mitrovic, Kane

joeyboy11

Dubliner28 wrote: »

Kane/Son or Ings/Auba?? for 1st few GW

I would go ings/Auba

macraignil

ShimSlady wrote: »

First cut and I think i'm happy with it

Ryan/McCarthy

Doherty, Saliba, VVD (Bernardo, Douglas)

Auba, Saint Maximin, Pulisic, Son (Perreira)

Ings, Mitrovic, Kane

I've read there is a possibility Pulisic is not fit for the first few games and not sure about the game time for Bernardo and Douglas but looks like a strong selection to me.

Scorpion Sting

macraignil wrote: »

I've read there is a possibility Pulisic is not fit for the first few games and not sure about the game time for Bernardo and Douglas but looks like a strong selection to me.

I think I saw on Sky Sports News that Bernardo has been linked with a move away to a Turkish club. Istanbul Basasekhir I think, probably butchered the spelling.

highgiant1985

My first draft - any feedback welcome.

Keepers: Nyland, Patrico,

Defenders: Pieters, Mitchell, Douglas, Walker-Pieters, Diop,

Midfield: Mount, Salah, De Bruyne, Saint Maximin, Son

Forwards: Werner, Mitrovic, Jimenez


Separate question - do people think Augero / Jesus are likely to be rotated too much to be considered a reliable bet. I don't have them in my side currently but just expecting a strong man city showing this year so considering if i should try and fit Jesus in somehow maybe but then I don't think there's a clear #1 there for this season.