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Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭john boye


    Not a hope gerry would be voted in. Sure, he'd get votes in his immediate vicinity but Dublin Central is a big constituency and most decent people would be horrified by the idea of voting for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭benny79


    I think what he meant is bought properties as investments and sold them down the line when valve went up! Hundreds done the same. But you obviously have to have money at start to do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Woodcutting


    He only had 35k from compensation claims and a defamation claim. Paul Reynolds said the numbers don't add up. I'm sure PR would have had advice to say that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭Drummerboy2


    Interesting think I noticed was when the Tanaiste was asked about Hutch running in the General Election, he answered: ''Well we will see how that materialises……''. The following day Hutch was arrested.

    Mary Lou is probably breathing a huge sign of relief as I reckon she would have lost a couple of thousand votes if he had run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    word in Clondalkin today is LG that was hit by a van a few weeks ago and slashed a few months ago might be hit tonight



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  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    Interesting that anyone in their right minds would think that the Spaniards lifting Gerry had something to do with the possibility of him running for election in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,366 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    The haul from the Brinks Mat and Marino jobs would have enriched Hutch personally to the tune of about £1 million, a fortune back then although he paid a huge bill to the CAB. Did he accrue extra wealth from shrewd property dealings, as he claims, or from drug trafficking? Patsy Hutch is considered to be a shrewd criminal as well although operating separately from Gerard and not particularly close to him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,153 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Nice guy but the worst person to show up for kellie was andy Lee trying to sign her up to the cartel 😀



  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    It definitely wouldn't have done Harrington any good with the likes of Hutch showing at her homecoming. Especially after the negative press surrounding her anti immigrant tweet. Boxing though is a dirty sport so we shouldn't be surprised the likes of the Monk and the Kinahans are keen followers of it.

    But yea impossible for her to control who shows up. We'd be better off with the likes of Kellie running for the Dail than ruthless criminal like the Monk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Sir Galahad


    He's the head of a familial criminal organisation, and has been involved in serious crime. That makes him a scumbag.



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  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    Anyone who thinks he is an ordinary decent criminal Dell Boy type have a look at this article. Really it doesn't matter when it comes to convictions. A lot of this is irrefutable. A 15 yo boy in Crumlin. I haven't heard of that in a while. Seems to have been forgotten with all of the Monk fanfare on here.

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/hutch-organised-crime-gang-history-29977074



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Patrick Mahomes


    Never sold drugs eh! I’ve a bridge to sell you!

    Regards,

    P.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭kerrykartel


    The monk himself killed Gerard Morgan and mel cox tell us more? Why even say that if your only putting two and two together with nothing to back it up, now the banks jobs are a different story and fair play to him.

    While the gang aspect of that article is true its true it isnt about the monk.

    Vote the monk no1.

    As ye were!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭john boye




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭john boye


    We live in a world where conspiracy theories trump common sense unfortunately



  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    Mel cox broke gerrys jaw wide open. He 100% retaliated. Common knowledge in summerhill mate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭kerrykartel


    You are all over the place, he didn't kill either, it's ok not to like Mr hutch but don't be attributing murders to him.



  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    I didnt. The media and well placed sources did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭kerrykartel


    Well placed sources(gardai I presume) and their vessel "the media" come on it's not that hard to see why.

    I went off an went threw most articles related to does murders and not one respected crime journalist (remember I said journalist) has said he's a murder or a drug dealer or finanicer, hes wealth isn't consistent with importer wholesaler or financier of drugs either.

    A dirty game is been played because of the bank jobs and his acquittal in the SCC.

    Vote the monk no1.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭john boye


    How have they got the spanish police to go after him (overnight) to stop him from running for the dail?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭kerrykartel


    They've been playing the long game since his first arrest, do they blame the monk for colms death?His pondering of running in the general election, it's quite the coincidence that the Spanish moved on him within day, accused of human trafficking and money laundering, but now it's just money laundering.

    We'll have to see when why and how the Spanish started the investigation if he's charged.



  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    Monk could easily see a 6 year bid in Spain. He'll come put to nothing too. Its great to see himself and the kinahans under savage pressure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Captain Fantastic 1984


    Tbf A) he wasn't acting off his own back. B) he was so far up DKs hole at that point he didn't think anything of it. Doyle was a liability at that point. He was getting bad for business. Any man that can slide into the back seat of a car and shoot 2 of his comrades in the back of the head with no hesitation is always gonna become a liability at some stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Captain Fantastic 1984


    Absolutely agree. While him and his family have been called certain names and whatever, we'd know him as an OCD. **** all criminal record anything he did didn't really hurt anyone. (Bar the Mel Cox situation, still to be proved). He had no time for a lot of his nephews and only got involved cos he had to. I really don't think human trafficking would be his thing. Maybe a touch of naivety here but I think it takes a low despicable type of criminal to entertain that ****.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭john boye


    Some people in this thread seem to have OCD with him alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭MickyPearse


    What people admire about the Monk is his robin hood reputation. He came from poverty, stole from the rich and gave to the poor. He also kept his own direct family out of crime - I read that all his kids were fully employed before the regency attack. The latest charges in Spain may prove this to be incorrect, but when you consider the levels of crime all the other Hutch nephews were at, you have to give the Monk credit for keeping his own away from it.

    He was ahead of his time in how he has been working on his PR since the 90s, once Veronica Guerin began reporting on him. He made sure her and other journalists knew of his community work and would have them believing he never drinks and despises drugs. There is a huge level of hypocrisy in all this though. The monk himself might not be directly involved in drug dealing, but his brothers and nephews are. If he despises what they are doing so much, then he wouldn't have tried to help save Gary Hutch or help clean up Patsy's mess after the regency. My guess is he was always overseeing their activity and washing their drug money through his own legitimate sources.



  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    Monk cntrols drugs in the NIC at a high level. Controls distribution and enforces debt collection. Of course he does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭kerrykartel


    Let's look at it logically.…

    He isn't his brothers or families keepers, he was able to get out of proverty which helped his immediate family to prosper without involvement in crime.

    If you could/were able to help out family members why wouldn't you, he didn't want revenge for Gary ( red cow was younger relative) he knew with the attempt on his life in Lanzarote he was marked!

    "The figures just don't add up sometimes" why give up your people to launder drugs monies you've nothing to do with, it's held he is worth about 10 to 12 million, thats not consistent with having anything got to do with or laundering drug monies.

    Logically none it really holds any weight.

    That's my 20cent anyway, whatever about what "sources" or "media" say as they've become two cheeks of the same arse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,316 ✭✭✭enricoh


    If you can sell me one newspaper article over the last 30 years that shows a link between the monk and drugs that'll do me.

    A ' monks close associate ' or 'garda source' of Paul williams of Nicola tallant is unacceptable however!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Woodcutting




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