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Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,461 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Court of opinion segments of audio prosecution rely on do not give rise to him being at Regency


    At most they give rise to him giving the go ahead

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    Does anyonethink the Kinahans will seek revenge after this length of time against Hutch? Will they restart the feud and look to wipe them all out?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,461 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Audio establishes Hutch is out of country in “immediate aftermath” of Regency “at least.”


    And it does not establish that he was there on the day, she says.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Judge pointing out what looked obvious all along, Gerry didn't fit the physical profile of either shooter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭TipsyMcStagge


    100% those shooters were clearly fit young men in their 20s/30's.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭ghostfacekilla


    He's done it. Slippery fox.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    If they wanted a conviction they should have gone with a lesser charge it seems!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭Quags


    Not Guilty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,858 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Can't see them letting him waltz around Dublin if he gets off. Mind you, he mightn't be their number 1 priority now. They have their own legal problems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭Thesiger


    Not guilty!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,461 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    BREAKING- Gerry Hutch found NOT GUILTY of the murder of David Byrne.

    Gerry Hutch has been found NOT GUILTY

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


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    Out. The. Gap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 StopTheBS


    So Whats Your issue with the monk? You seem to have a personal vendetta against him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭passatman86


    When is the movie out - crazy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Not guilty. Monk slips the Special Criminal Court.

    State goofed-up big style chasing murder as opposed to lesser charges. Signposted a mile away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,858 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Serious egg on the face of the authorities with this verdict.

    The verdict makes sense when you see the judge break it down bit by bit. Certainly reasonable doubt.

    Because of Dowdall, the State snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.



  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    The DPP and AGS have some serious questions to answer. They gave JD a pass based on some really poor and what seems like fabricated evidence.

    How long did Hutch do on remand?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭TipsyMcStagge


    Hutch walks an absolute farce of a case now if Patsy had been charged on the other hand..

    I just can't understand why they didn't charge Hutch in relation to the guns as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭lmao10


    My theory was always that he was a step ahead all along. Dowdall gets off and Gerry gets away. Perfectly planned. Dowdall played a stormer. In my view, Hutch has completely outsmarted everyone here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭lmao10


    I think when you look at cases such as the Mel Cox case, it's very hard to be on the side of the Hutches.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,461 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Someone's chips were very well placed in the middle of the table 😉

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    Hopefully the state now pursue the lesser charges and put a proper case together. Simply put if there is evidence that they planned the hit and gave the go ahead for it they can't be let off.

    I don't think Hutch planned this to be honest. Dowdall sh1t himself obiovsly and decided to go State witness. Think about it.

    The State had nothing on Hutch even with JD's evidence. They would have had even less without it.

    How long will Gerard and Patsy last is the real question.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,461 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Brendan Grehan asks court to allow Gerry Hutch to now be released


    Hutch barely reacted to the verdict other than a slight nod

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,560 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    A fair few of you on here owe the judge and SCC a bit of an apology to be fair. There were loads of you claiming he was going to be found guilty despite the lack of evidence



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,614 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Not sure if that's how Dowdall sees it! He's now got both factions in the feud after him!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,042 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Dowdall will be **** it his application for witness protection is going ahead. Marked man either way. Snake 🐍



  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    Why didn't the DPP bring multiple charges against him? (Possession of weapons and directing the OCG etc). Why just murder. Crazy stuff.



  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    We owe them nothing.

    The one thing I will say is this verdict certainly blows Sinn Feinns case for the SCC to be disbanded out of the water. This verdict proves it is fit for purpose if anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Do you have personal experience of the Hutch family?



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  • Posts: 8,532 [Deleted User]


    Yes family members do. Not the Robinhood type figures some here are making out.



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