Toyota Fortuner 7 seater Ireland (probable) price

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Current PCP ends next Jan. Looking for an automatic 7 seater.

Any Toyota Fortuner 7 seater Ireland (probable) price

Best value 7 seater / mpv in the same segment?

colm_mcm

They don’t sell the fortuner here. No idea if they’ll introduce it.

Birka

The Highlander should be here by then. Its not going to be cheap though.

colm_mcm

Unless you need some sort of heavy duty yoke the likes of a Kodiaq or Tiguan Allspace or Sorento is what most of people will look at.

coolbeans

TestLink wrote: »

Current PCP ends next Jan. Looking for an automatic 7 seater.

Any Toyota Fortuner 7 seater Ireland (probable) price

Best value 7 seater / mpv in the same segment?

Lots of Fortuners all over eastern Africa when I was there. AFAIK they're a Hilux without the pickup bed so they're rough enough on the road but they're tough all the same. Can't see Toyota importing them into Ireland or the EU as big diesel 4x4s is not the direction the market is going and they've been on the developing world market for nearly twenty years.

TestLink

colm_mcm wrote: »

Unless you need some sort of heavy duty yoke the likes of a Kodiaq or Tiguan Allspace or Sorento is what most of people will look at.

Price wise how much this would cost?

TestLink

Birka wrote: »

The Highlander should be here by then. Its not going to be cheap though.

Would it be around 40K?

Birka

TestLink wrote: »

Would it be around 40K?

It's likely to be over 50k as its highly specced and the RAV4 is around 40k.

coolbeans

Birka wrote: »

It's likely to be over 50k as its highly specced and the RAV4 is around 40k.

By the way OP if you go the imported Fortuner route it probably won't have any rust proofing.

TestLink

Birka wrote: »

It's likely to be over 50k as its highly specced and the RAV4 is around 40k.

Much above my budget. What is the cheapest Petrol 7 seater alternative? Price?

PEUGEOT 5008 / Renault Grand Scenic / Ford Galaxy / Kia Sorento?

Birka

TestLink wrote: »

Much above my budget. What is the cheapest Petrol 7 seater alternative? Price?

PEUGEOT 5008 / Renault Grand Scenic / Ford Galaxy / Kia Sorento?

You'll probably get the biggest discount/cheapest finance on the Renault which is priced similarly to the 5008. The Kia is diesel only and expensive compared with the Renault or Peugeot. The 5008 will have a facelift due to launch on 7th October.

There's also the Skoda Kodiaq but its a bit more expensive than the French options. It might well hold its value a bit more than them but I'm not sure how popular the petrol model is.

AMKC

Maybe a Nissan X-Trail would suit you OP. Most of the other 7 seaters have been mentioned here but the Seat Tarraco is another.

TestLink

Got it via email.

The new Highlander will be Toyota’s first 7 seater SUV, which is self-charging and comes in All Wheel Drive as standard. The vehicle will have a 2.5 Hybrid engine that has 242bhp. Subject to final testing, the vehicle will have fuel consumption of 6.7l per 100km.

This vehicle is set to come in 3 specification levels, Hybrid, Sol and Platinum.

Although pricing has not yet been finalised, it is expected to range from €65,000 for the Hybrid, €70,000 for the Sol grade and up to €76,500 for the Platinum grade. Specifications are yet to be finalised and will not be available until late October.

Too expensive! So have to look for something else. 181 also fine for me. What is the next best option?

TestLink

AMKC wrote: »

Maybe a Nissan X-Trail would suit you OP. Most of the other 7 seaters have been mentioned here but the Seat Tarraco is another.

What about Toyota PRIUS+

GavMan

You'll get in a petrol Kodiaq 7 seater manual in Ambition spec for a smidge about 38k brand new when you include metallic paint and delivery which I thing runs to about 1400 all in. Car itself is 36400 or so.

If you can spend 40 I would include some spec like Keyless Entry (it has keyless start but lack of keyless entry is annoying. Stretch to the alarm if you can), electric tailgate, wireless charging, family pack and upgrade the wheels to the Trinity wheels (IMO it makes the car look a spec above what it is, closer to Style spec and only costs 100 quid or so)

If it's a straight deal you should get a about 5-7% off the price. But not much because this car basically sells itself and they are not waiting on your business.

TestLink

GavMan wrote: »

You'll get in a petrol Kodiaq 7 seater manual in Ambition spec for a smidge about 38k brand new when you include metallic paint and delivery which I thing runs to about 1400 all in. Car itself is 36400 or so.

If you can spend 40 I would include some spec like Keyless Entry (it has keyless start but lack of keyless entry is annoying. Stretch to the alarm if you can), electric tailgate, wireless charging, family pack and upgrade the wheels to the Trinity wheels (IMO it makes the car look a spec above what it is, closer to Style spec and only costs 100 quid or so)

If it's a straight deal you should get a about 5-7% off the price. But not much because this car basically sells itself and they are not waiting on your business.

I definitely need an automatic option.

GavMan

TestLink wrote: »

I definitely need an automatic option.

Auto with paint and delivery will come in just under 41k in Ambition spec I think which is not bad. Auto is not available on the lower spec but tbh you Ambition is the minimum spec you should be going for. Ambition Auto is what I have myself and I would recommend but again the only thing I really wish I had was Full Keyless entry and go but it was from stock not an order so I couldn't get it.

A cash deal will see you come in under 40k I would say. Good luck OP

FrankC21

TestLink wrote: »

Current PCP ends next Jan. Looking for an automatic 7 seater.

Any Toyota Fortuner 7 seater Ireland (probable) price

Best value 7 seater / mpv in the same segment?

There's no Fortuner in Ireland, we own one but not in Ireland.

How about an Xtrail?? A lot of people owns them.

TestLink

FrankC21 wrote: »

There's no Fortuner in Ireland, we own one but not in Ireland.

How about an Xtrail?? A lot of people owns them.

Sorry. Typo. I meant Highlander.

TestLink

Below are the automatic 7 Seaters I have shortlisted. I need a tall car with good boot space.

1. PEUGEOT 5008 SUV

2. Renault Grand Scenic

3. Nissan X-Trail

4. VOLKSWAGEN Touran

5. Toyota PRIUS +

Casati

TestLink wrote: »

Below are the automatic 7 Seaters I have shortlisted. I need a tall car with good boot space.

1. PEUGEOT 5008 SUV

2. Renault Grand Scenic

3. Nissan X-Trail

4. VOLKSWAGEN Touran

5. Toyota PRIUS +

Out of that list the new model 5008 is the best bet imo. Buying new they will all see large increases next year bar the Prius

If you had mid 40’s you could probably get a Tarraco PHEV next year

TestLink

Casati wrote: »

Out of that list the new model 5008 is the best bet imo. Buying new they will all see large increases next year bar the Prius

If you had mid 40’s you could probably get a Tarraco PHEV next year

Has the price increase in last budget for cars came in to effect? Or would it come into effect later next year?

Birka

TestLink wrote: »

Has the price increase in last budget for cars came in to effect? Or would it come into effect later next year?

It'll impact everything registered from 1st Jan onwards.

The 5008 is the pick of the bunch there although the Touran isn't a bad option. There's a 5008 facelift model on the way which will likely be a bit more expensive. Would you consider ending the PCP a month or two early and buying a 2020 demo model? - you're likely to get a good deal given the likely market conditions between now and January and any price increases on the new model/tax regime are likely to drag secondhand prices up. Motor tax will likely be a little higher on the 2021 models too although not enough for it to be a big deal.

OfflerCrocGod

TestLink wrote: »

Below are the automatic 7 Seaters I have shortlisted. I need a tall car with good boot space.

1. PEUGEOT 5008 SUV

2. Renault Grand Scenic

3. Nissan X-Trail

4. VOLKSWAGEN Touran

5. Toyota PRIUS +

Can you not still get one of the last Alhambras? Or are they all sold out?

TestLink

OfflerCrocGod wrote: »

Can you not still get one of the last Alhambras? Or are they all sold out?

It is above my budget and I dont like the Seat brand much. For that much money I could get a popular brand. Thanks...

TestLink

Birka wrote: »

It'll impact everything registered from 1st Jan onwards.

The 5008 is the pick of the bunch there although the Touran isn't a bad option. There's a 5008 facelift model on the way which will likely be a bit more expensive. Would you consider ending the PCP a month or two early and buying a 2020 demo model? - you're likely to get a good deal given the likely market conditions between now and January and any price increases on the new model/tax regime are likely to drag secondhand prices up. Motor tax will likely be a little higher on the 2021 models too although not enough for it to be a big deal.

What sort of price increase are you talking about? for eg for the 5008? Yes, I could get one before January 2021 to avoid the price increase.

Birka

TestLink wrote: »

What sort of price increase are you talking about? for eg for the 5008? Yes, I could get one before January 2021 to avoid the price increase.

This post suggests a price increase of €1,000 as the facelift increase and up to €2,500 for WLTP changes. The €1,000 probably isn't too far off the mark given the price increase of the UK model but I'm not sure that the other €2,500 is quite accurate and might be a worst case scenario on the 2.0 diesel.

LillySV

That new highlander looks serious... about time Toyota pulled their finger out and offered something like that here. Love their prados and fortunes in Asia and could never understand how they don’t offer anything like that here

TestLink

LillySV wrote: »

That new highlander looks serious... about time Toyota pulled their finger out and offered something like that here. Love their prados and fortunes in Asia and could never understand how they don’t offer anything like that here

Is the price not too high for the Fortuner in its segment?

LillySV

TestLink wrote: »

Is the price not too high for the Fortuner in its segment?

Well I’d never intend on buying new haha. Look at the land cruisers here... they cost a bomb and rare to get 5 seat version... yet people willing to pay over the odds for it

The one thing I’d say about the highlander is they would most likely be reliable and a lot cheaper to service than the German equivalent.

TestLink

Called a Nissan dealer today. I was told that the price increase is already in effect and there is no point to go for a 2020 model.

ofcork

Got an email from toyota yesterday cheapest highlander is 64k next is 71 and platinum is 76.

TestLink

ofcork wrote: »

Got an email from toyota yesterday cheapest highlander is 64k next is 71 and platinum is 76.

It makes no sense for this pricing by Toyota. There are good alternatives available instead of this pricey one.

WhoamI2022

TestLink wrote: »

It makes no sense for this pricing by Toyota. There are good alternatives available instead of this pricey one.

The Rav is more expensive to the diesel alternatives by a significant amount and they are selling.


I do feel this is going to fall flat on its face. It is probably twice the price of the Peugeot and the Nissan. Why would you bother going for it>? are you really going to spend 30k more on diesel over the life of it?

TestLink

I dont want a Diesel car. Otherwise I would have for Peugeot or Nissan X Trail. I am looking for a suitable Petrol Hybrid or PlugIn Hybrid.

WhoamI2022

TestLink wrote: »

I dont want a Diesel car. Otherwise I would have for Peugeot or Nissan X Trail. I am looking for a suitable Petrol Hybrid or PlugIn Hybrid.

Outlander with a Mulitmac will give you 6 seats.

VW are suppsoed to be bringing out a PHEV range for the Tiguan and Allspace.

TestLink

WhoamI2022 wrote: »

Outlander with a Mulitmac will give you 6 seats.

Heard that Mitsubishi is pulling out of the EU market. So might not be the best time to buy an Outlander.

https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/mitsubishi-preparing-to-pull-out-of-europe/

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/mitsubishi-dealers-reeling-shock-news-brands-withdrawal-europe/198724

https://www.autobiz.ie/home/mitsubishi-to-pull-out-of-europe

Casati

TestLink wrote: »

It makes no sense for this pricing by Toyota. There are good alternatives available instead of this pricey one.

It’s expensive but it’s a v large car - dimensions put it up against XC90, X5 and Q7 and it’s a lot cheaper than the base model of those cars. It’s not competing against a 1.2 litre 5008 and certainly Toyota won’t be too worried about the X Trail.

Personally I don’t see the benefit of a petrol hybrid in that segment and would be going diesel or maybe PHEV if their wasn’t pricing extortion

WhoamI2022

TestLink wrote: »

Heard that Mitsubishi is pulling out of the EU market. So might not be the best time to buy an Outlander.

https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/mitsubishi-preparing-to-pull-out-of-europe/

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/mitsubishi-dealers-reeling-shock-news-brands-withdrawal-europe/198724

https://www.autobiz.ie/home/mitsubishi-to-pull-out-of-europe

Doubt it will make f**k all difference to be honest if they do pull out. With the sort of money OP is talking about the warranty will be nearly up anyway. It's not like you won't be able to buy parts/get it serviced etc

Casati

WhoamI2022 wrote: »

Doubt it will make f**k all difference to be honest if they do pull out. With the sort of money OP is talking about the warranty will be nearly up anyway. It's not like you won't be able to buy parts/get it serviced etc

OP’s budget is 40/45k, be madness to spend anything of that level on an Outlander, it will end up being an expensive wedding ring

Casati

Did you look at the 3008? The PHEV model has loads of power and good spec. I’ve three kids and we rented one on holidays and v was impressed, had good rear seat space.

Don’t dismiss Seat’s because they sell less units than Nissan or other makes- that’s largely down to a historically small range - they make great cars. The Tarraco might be an option as it’s also launching as a PHEV. It’s a great car and should be circa 40k. Think it will be available as a 7 seater


The Kuga is another good option but they are off sale at the moment due to some technical issue

TestLink

I dont think I would get an MPV / SUV Petrol Hybrid or Plugin Hybrid within my price range. I prefer a German / Japan / Korean car, rather than a French / Italian make and model.

I was quoted 32,000 for a Toyota Corola Touring Sports SOL model by one of the dealers. But for this price I could get a two or three year old BMW, 3 or 5 series plug-in Hybrid with all the features I could ever imagine! Cost of maintenance is the only issue.

I need a tall car with good leg space for the back seats and enough boot space.

Car99

TestLink wrote: »

I dont think I would get an MPV / SUV Petrol Hybrid or Plugin Hybrid within my price range. I prefer a German / Japan / Korean car, rather than a French / Italian make and model.

I was quoted 32,000 for a Toyota Corola Touring Sports SOL model by one of the dealers. But for this price I could get a two or three year old BMW, 3 or 5 series plug-in Hybrid with all the features I could ever imagine! Cost of maintenance is the only issue.

I need a tall car with good leg space for the back seats and enough boot space.

Cost of BMW maintenance at a good independent wont be much more than any other car

WhoamI2022

TestLink wrote: »

I dont think I would get an MPV / SUV Petrol Hybrid or Plugin Hybrid within my price range. I prefer a German / Japan / Korean car, rather than a French / Italian make and model.

I was quoted 32,000 for a Toyota Corola Touring Sports SOL model by one of the dealers. But for this price I could get a two or three year old BMW, 3 or 5 series plug-in Hybrid with all the features I could ever imagine! Cost of maintenance is the only issue.

I need a tall car with good leg space for the back seats and enough boot space.

Yes new cars are more expensive to second hand cars. Not sure what the point is

LillySV

TestLink wrote: »

I dont think I would get an MPV / SUV Petrol Hybrid or Plugin Hybrid within my price range. I prefer a German / Japan / Korean car, rather than a French / Italian make and model.

I was quoted 32,000 for a Toyota Corola Touring Sports SOL model by one of the dealers. But for this price I could get a two or three year old BMW, 3 or 5 series plug-in Hybrid with all the features I could ever imagine! Cost of maintenance is the only issue.

I need a tall car with good leg space for the back seats and enough boot space.

A lot of the hybrids have crap bootspace... the Mitsubishi hybrid jeeps for example... more room in the boot of a mini ... pointless
Perhaps a Honda CR-V or skoda kodiaq might suit ya? The now in hybrid I believe

WhoamI2022

LillySV wrote: »

A lot of the hybrids have crap bootspace... the Mitsubishi hybrid jeeps for example... more room in the boot of a mini ... pointless
Perhaps a Honda CR-V or skoda kodiaq might suit ya? The now in hybrid I believe

Outlander has a boot of 591 ltr, 1022lt with seats down. Which Mitsubishi are you talking about?

I can't find any Mini with a bigger boot? The CRV has a smaller boot and the Skoda is bigger of 630 but put up the 2 seats and 270. The CRV is only a 5 seater

The Skoda is not in a Hybrid yet. Not sure what you are talking about?

cpoh1

WhoamI2022 wrote: »

Outlander has a boot of 591 ltr, 1022lt with seats down. Which Mitsubishi are you talking about?

I can't find any Mini with a bigger boot? The CRV has a smaller boot and the Skoda is bigger of 630 but put up the 2 seats and 270. The CRV is only a 5 seater

The Skoda is not in a Hybrid yet. Not sure what you are talking about?

He's spot on - the Outlander PHEV has 463L of space - close to a nissan Qashqai.

There is a current trend with supposedly practical PHEV cars all having significantly diminished boot space in them because the batteries were shoehorned into the car rather than the car being designed around the battery layout. A6, Passat GTE, 330e estate all shocking boot space for the size of the car and just not practical with a decent family and luggage requirements.

LillySV

WhoamI2022 wrote: »

Outlander has a boot of 591 ltr, 1022lt with seats down. Which Mitsubishi are you talking about?

I can't find any Mini with a bigger boot? The CRV has a smaller boot and the Skoda is bigger of 630 but put up the 2 seats and 270. The CRV is only a 5 seater

The Skoda is not in a Hybrid yet. Not sure what you are talking about?

Outlander, 220l-463 l depending on model, crv is 497 litres hybrid and 589 litres in diesel, skoda has massive boot and 7 seats, hybrid from next year I believe .

TestLink

Heard that Toyota is going to stop the production of PRIUS & PRIUS+

They are widely acclaimed for reliability all over the world. Taxi drivers in many countries use PRIUS. So cant understand why they are going to stop its production!

colm_mcm

Prius C (Aqua) and Prius+, which were both end of life anyway.
Hadn’t heard they were killing off the main Prius, but the last one I saw looked like it had suffered a stroke.



The Corolla hybrid was Ireland’s top selling car. You can get a hybrid Toyota without the stigma of being an eco warrior now, so a Prius is a bit pointless. I would suspect a lot of your traditional Prius drivers have migrated to “non self charging” (actual) EVs instead

TestLink

They might be promoting Highlander then. But that is way too costly! I dont think it would sell good for that price.