Laura Whitmore - British Army

chicken foot

I found her little Camo top to be just that extra bit of "wtf". Tone deaf, insensitive and as N.I born - who grew up in the throes of the troubles - I often wonder what the female BA recruits would have threatened to "****" me with as they drove past 12 yr old me.

A lot of ignorance and southern disregard in this post. The ignorance of youth I'll ignore, as in, anyone aged 25/30 and under but if you were a child of the 80's and still defending what she did, well, I'd suggest clicking on that little recruitment hashtag she's claiming not to be promoting.

AdrianBalboa

If Whitmore was a man far fewer people would be falling over themselves to call her a "media whore" "dollybird" or going out of their way to proclaim as loudly as they can that they don't care about her. There is a bias against women in the media expressing themselves, doubly so for women who are considered conventionally attractive who should be seen and not heard.

ButtersSuki

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

If Whitmore was a man far fewer people would be falling over themselves to call her a "media whore" "dollybird" or going out of their way to proclaim as loudly as they can that they don't care about her. There is a bias against women in the media expressing themselves, doubly so for women who are considered conventionally attractive who should be seen and not heard.

Yeah that’s it. :rolleyes:

quokula

I'm not sure that all the attacks and violent language against an Irish woman for not holding a big enough grudge against the Brits a couple of decades after the troubles is exactly what John Hume would have wanted.

Granadino

She's living and working in the UK, so I don't see the major deal about this, but as an Irish person, she probably should have steered clear of this one. A dog with a mallet in his arse could have seen the controversy over this one.
Also her, possibly UK PR, agents etc, could have scheduled posts, and as a lot of UK folk tend to, have not one clue of why the British army would have been controversial in Ireland...

ButtersSuki

quokula wrote: »

I'm not sure that all the attacks and violent language against an Irish woman for not holding a big enough grudge against the Brits a couple of decades after the troubles is exactly what John Hume would have wanted.

Yeah I’m pretty sure he’d have wanted an Irish person promoting a recruitment drive for the British Army after all the good work they’ve done on this island over the years. :rolleyes:

McGinniesta

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Yeah I’m pretty sure he’d have wanted an Irish person promoting a recruitment drive for the British Army after all the good work they’ve done on this island over the years. :rolleyes:

And on a global scale

James Brown

markodaly wrote: »

Yes, but aren't these worthy of debate, or do you want to accept to live in a world, where someone you disagree with is told to go 'Kill Themselves' on Twitter?

The woman has free agency and answers to no one, especially not mealy-mouthed shinner types. There is a lot of misogyny displayed right on this very thread by the usual SF supporters crew.

You are a hypocrite on this.
Rightly she is a free agent can say what she likes. However anyone with a problem is not free to have issue? Anyone being hateful must be a shinner? She must be s FG or Nationsl Party member for recruiting for the BA? Cop on. Also if you can list the SF crew who made misogynist remarks please do. I dont see any of those who rightly with reason criticise FG and therefore must be SF making any such remarks. Talking ****e trying to score points Marko. Is there nobody you people won't twist and use?

ToTheSea

chicken foot wrote: »

I found her little Camo top to be just that extra bit of "wtf". Tone deaf, insensitive and as N.I born - who grew up in the throes of the troubles - I often wonder what the female BA recruits would have threatened to "****" me with as they drove past 12 yr old me.

A lot of ignorance and southern disregard in this post. The ignorance of youth I'll ignore, as in, anyone aged 25/30 and under but if you were a child of the 80's and still defending what she did, well, I'd suggest clicking on that little recruitment hashtag she's claiming not to be promoting.

Yes I found the camo top totally "WTF". like the hashtags are bad enough. But the top just made the whole thing worse IMHO.

I live in the south but have family in the North and lost family to the British military, as I mentioned in my last post. I grew up going through the checkpoints, and encountering the British army (who I remember as not being very pleasant) pretty much every weekend, every school holiday when I went to visit family. So while I didn't grow up in living the troubles daily I feel like I do have a decent understanding.

I completely agree with the bit in Bold and the ignorance of people my age in the South always baffled me.
I remember one time I went up North with a friend and when we crossed the border, no joke he asked "so are we technically in England now? like WTF?

Although the ignorance isn't only displayed by people my age:
I had a friend tell me about the time she and her family were booked to go to Scotland on holiday when she was a kid (late 90's). They had to travel up to Larne to get the ferry. She couldn't understand why the police pulled them over, turned them back and escorted them back to the border... They were travelling on July 12th :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

The level of ignorance I have seen first hand towards the North from people in the south is just baffling.
For people in the south who had no connection to the North, it's like it's it some far away land and not 90 minutes up the M1 from Dublin

UDAWINNER

markodaly wrote: »

Yes, but aren't these worthy of debate, or do you want to accept to live in a world, where someone you disagree with is told to go 'Kill Themselves' on Twitter?

The woman has free agency and answers to no one, especially not mealy-mouthed shinner types. There is a lot of misogyny displayed right on this very thread by the usual SF supporters crew.

on the day that John Hume died which she sent a rip tweet and then does a podcast promoting the British Army and she doesn't see the irony. Obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed or too busy licking up to the brits

Odhinn

markodaly wrote: »

Yes, but aren't these worthy of debate, or do you want to accept to live in a world, where someone you disagree with is told to go 'Kill Themselves' on Twitter?

The woman has free agency and answers to no one, especially not mealy-mouthed shinner types. There is a lot of misogyny displayed right on this very thread by the usual SF supporters crew.

|You'll have no problem quoting them then so.

Errashareesh

chicken foot wrote: »

I found her little Camo top to be just that extra bit of "wtf". Tone deaf, insensitive and as N.I born - who grew up in the throes of the troubles - I often wonder what the female BA recruits would have threatened to "****" me with as they drove past 12 yr old me.

A lot of ignorance and southern disregard in this post. The ignorance of youth I'll ignore, as in, anyone aged 25/30 and under but if you were a child of the 80's and still defending what she did, well, I'd suggest clicking on that little recruitment hashtag she's claiming not to be promoting.

ToTheSea wrote: »

Yes I found the camo top totally "WTF". like the hashtags are bad enough. But the top just made the whole thing worse IMHO.

I live in the south but have family in the North and lost family to the British military, as I mentioned in my last post. I grew up going through the checkpoints, and encountering the British army (who I remember as not being very pleasant) pretty much every weekend, every school holiday when I went to visit family. So while I didn't grow up in living the troubles daily I feel like I do have a decent understanding.

I completely agree with the bit in Bold and the ignorance of people my age in the South always baffled me.
I remember one time I went up North with a friend and when we crossed the border, no joke he asked "so are we technically in England now? like WTF?

Although the ignorance isn't only displayed by people my age:
I had a friend tell me about the time she and her family were booked to go to Scotland on holiday when she was a kid (late 90's). They had to travel up to Larne to get the ferry. She couldn't understand why the police pulled them over, turned them back and escorted them back to the border... They were travelling on July 12th :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

The level of ignorance I have seen first hand towards the North from people in the south is just baffling.
For people in the south who had no connection to the North, it's like it's it some far away land and not 90 minutes up the M1 from Dublin

As a child I just assumed the entire conflict was republican orchestrated. That's how it seemed from the news. Thankfully I started educating myself on post partition north of Ireland when I was 15/16.

jm08

quokula wrote: »

I'm not sure that all the attacks and violent language against an Irish woman for not holding a big enough grudge against the Brits a couple of decades after the troubles is exactly what John Hume would have wanted.

I suggest you have a look at this to find out what John Hume might have thought about the British Army.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBOUkBAO5s

IAMAMORON

I find it astonishing that so many posters are making it a political issue if I am honest.

The BA haven't been wearing hard hats in the 6 counties over 20 years, yet everyone on here quoting political parties SF, FG etc as if it is some sort of a thing?

A girl from Bray goes to the UK and gets ahead in a career in media. On one particular week she tweets about working on a BA recruitment drive which she is probably getting nicely paid for. Obviously a fallow enough week, it gives the SF keyboard warriors an angle to pump up the outrage?

What are you going to do, make her disappear off the planet or something similar? Ban her from the internet? Like, what has her job choices go to do with Sinn Féin or Fine Gael or any Irish political party? I really think some posters are struggling to get it?

If anyone had any respect for the GFA and for the future of the 6 counties they would be well able to get on with this, instead of wasting their time screaming online outrage over a few tweets. I don't care what part of the island yous are from, get over yourselves. She is an Irish person working in the UK and getting on with her life, if you really loved this country and its' people yous would be getting on with having her back rather then stabbing at it online.

ThewhiteJesus

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I find it astonishing that so many posters are making it a political issue if I am honest.

The BA haven't been wearing hard hats in the 6 counties over 20 years, yet everyone on here quoting political parties SF, FG etc as if it is some sort of a thing?

A girl from Bray goes to the UK and gets ahead in a career in media. On one particular week she tweets about working on a BA recruitment drive which she is probably getting nicely paid for. Obviously a fallow enough week, it gives the SF keyboard warriors an angle to pump up the outrage?

What are you going to do, make her disappear off the planet or something similar? Ban her from the internet? Like, what has her job choices go to do with Sinn Féin or Fine Gael or any Irish political party? I really think some posters are struggling to get it?

If anyone had any respect for the GFA and for the future of the 6 counties they would be well able to get on with this, instead of wasting their time screaming online outrage over a few tweets. I don't care what part of the island yous are from, get over yourselves. She is an Irish person working in the UK and getting on with her life, if you really loved this country and its' people yous would be getting on with having her back rather then stabbing at it online.

As they say in Bray, Scarlet for you.

IAMAMORON

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

As they say in Bray, Scarlet for you.

I doubt Seamus Costello would say any different.

Its spealt Scarla in Bray btw.

James Brown

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I find it astonishing that so many posters are making it a political issue if I am honest.

The BA haven't been wearing hard hats in the 6 counties over 20 years, yet everyone on here quoting political parties SF, FG etc as if it is some sort of a thing?

A girl from Bray goes to the UK and gets ahead in a career in media. On one particular week she tweets about working on a BA recruitment drive which she is probably getting nicely paid for. Obviously a fallow enough week, it gives the SF keyboard warriors an angle to pump up the outrage?

What are you going to do, make her disappear off the planet or something similar? Ban her from the internet? Like, what has her job choices go to do with Sinn Féin or Fine Gael or any Irish political party? I really think some posters are struggling to get it?

If anyone had any respect for the GFA and for the future of the 6 counties they would be well able to get on with this, instead of wasting their time screaming online outrage over a few tweets. I don't care what part of the island yous are from, get over yourselves. She is an Irish person working in the UK and getting on with her life, if you really loved this country and its' people yous would be getting on with having her back rather then stabbing at it online.

If you read the thread and the tweets regarding this, apart from the odd sham having a bad taste pop, most are discussing the unfortunate timing of her BA recruitment tweet with her John Hume RIP tweet and discussing that and the thought process if any, that went into it. I don't think assuming people are SF/FG with a grudge is accurate.
Also she and a few others tried to spin it as a feminist girl power issue. It's really not.

markodaly

Bowie wrote: »

You are a hypocrite on this.
Rightly she is a free agent can say what she likes. However anyone with a problem is not free to have issue? Anyone being hateful must be a shinner? She must be s FG or Nationsl Party member for recruiting for the BA? Cop on. Also if you can list the SF crew who made misogynist remarks please do. I dont see any of those who rightly with reason criticise FG and therefore must be SF making any such remarks. Talking ****e trying to score points Marko. Is there nobody you people won't twist and use?

Do you think the SF twitter mob asking her to go Kill herself is someone voicing reasonable opposition to her position? Come off it Matt.

To be honest, its the typical insecue nonsenese we see from SF types. She did some womans promo with the BA ... and the sky falls in, apparently.
When are we actually going to get over this $hit?
When can we say as Irish people let bygones be bygones.
5 years, 15 years, 50 years.... never?

IAMAMORON

Bowie wrote: »

If you read the thread and the tweets regarding this, apart from the odd sham having a bad taste pop, most are discussing the unfortunate timing of her BA recruitment tweet with her John Hume RIP tweet and discussing that and the thought process if any, that went into it. I don't think assuming people are SF/FG with a grudge is accurate.
Also she and a few others tried to spin it as a feminist girl power issue. It's really not.

I don't believe anyone outraged by her tweet has lost a minute of sleep over her discretion or tact of tweet delivery. If she was advertising careers in frozen fish processing before she mentioned the BA I reckon it would have drummed up the same hissy fit.

Timing of tweets my eye, now that is pedantic. At least if your hellbent on annihilating her character have the cajones to spell it out. Feigning distaste over her tweets is shallow, we all know what the genuine outrage is about.

It is not all that subtle either ( the outrage ) all things considered.

markodaly

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I find it astonishing that so many posters are making it a political issue if I am honest.

The BA haven't been wearing hard hats in the 6 counties over 20 years, yet everyone on here quoting political parties SF, FG etc as if it is some sort of a thing?

A girl from Bray goes to the UK and gets ahead in a career in media. On one particular week she tweets about working on a BA recruitment drive which she is probably getting nicely paid for. Obviously a fallow enough week, it gives the SF keyboard warriors an angle to pump up the outrage?

What are you going to do, make her disappear off the planet or something similar? Ban her from the internet? Like, what has her job choices go to do with Sinn Féin or Fine Gael or any Irish political party? I really think some posters are struggling to get it?

If anyone had any respect for the GFA and for the future of the 6 counties they would be well able to get on with this, instead of wasting their time screaming online outrage over a few tweets. I don't care what part of the island yous are from, get over yourselves. She is an Irish person working in the UK and getting on with her life, if you really loved this country and its' people yous would be getting on with having her back rather then stabbing at it online.

This, so this.

To be honest, those giving out about her, are more than likely couped up in their mothers attic, and never did anything with their lives apart form being edgy on twitter.

What she did, affects no one here, and I mean that. Her doing that promo or not doing that promo does not alter anyones lives negatively... so whats the big deal again?

Meeoow

Laura Whitless

James Brown

markodaly wrote: »

Do you think the SF twitter mob asking her to go Kill herself is someone voicing reasonable opposition to her position? Come off it Matt.

To be honest, its the typical insecue nonsenese we see from SF types. She did some womans promo with the BA ... and the sky falls in, apparently.
When are we actually going to get over this $hit?
When can we say as Irish people let bygones be bygones.
5 years, 15 years, 50 years.... never?

I don't know it was any SF person. Who ever posted that tweet was way out of order. Mob is an exaggeration.

Why do you call me Matt all the time?

This portion is fevered tripe you made up. I think you read into the discussion what best suited a shinner wet dream and went for it. It has little basis in reality.
Go on quote some misogynist posts here from the usual shinners I dare you.

It's mostly a discussion on tweeting about John Hume and doing a BA recruitment drive in tandem.

IAMAMORON

Bowie wrote: »

It's mostly a discussion on tweeting about John Hume and doing a BA recruitment drive in tandem.

As opposed to it being another example of shinners hijacking his good name for their own benefit?

Sounds more like it.

markodaly

Bowie wrote: »

.
Go on quite some misogynist posts here from the usual shinners I dare you.

Why did you quote something mocking about 'Girl Power' and then post an image that depicted Spice Girl, Mel B as a white woman/man as a response?

Misogynist and racist in my opinion.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114230800&postcount=52

It's mostly a discussion on tweeting about John Hume and doing a BA recruitment drive in tandem.

Its a discussion on her BA promo, nothing else.
If she did a promo for ice cream or nurses, there would be zero issues, but as usual, once anyone Irish does anything 'West Brit' the SF mob lose themselves and go all right wing nationalist on us.

Odhinn

markodaly wrote: »

Why did you quote something mocking about 'Girl Power' and then post an image that depicted Spice Girl, Mel B as a white woman/man as a response?

Misogynist and racist in my opinion.


.

In your opinion.

James Brown

IAMAMORON wrote: »

As opposed to it being another example of shinners hijacking his good name for their own benefit?

Sounds more like it.

Show your work?
Quotes, proof?
I see criticism of a few tweets.

James Brown

markodaly wrote: »

Why did you quote something mocking about 'Girl Power' and then post an image that depicted Spice Girl, Mel B as a white woman/man as a response?

Misogynist and racist in my opinion.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114230800&postcount=52



Its a discussion on her BA promo, nothing else.
If she did a promo for ice cream or nurses, there would be zero issues, but as usual, once anyone Irish does anything 'West Brit' the SF mob lose themselves and go all right wing nationalist on us.

You're threading water horse
I was making light of the people trying to pretend it was about more women in the army.
Also that man is a friend of Laura's

So no proof of your claims just more waffle and accusations.
Again, its mostly regarding the Hume tweet being alongside the BA recruitment tweet. A discussion. Not everyone is foaming from the mouth looking for something to spew bile about, like yourself.
No issues with herself. Discussing the tweet.
It's sad that some people like you cant let a woman be involved in an adult discussion without inferring it related to their sex. Its misogyny personified and you should be ashamed.

Why do you call me Matt?

Galwayguy35

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I find it astonishing that so many posters are making it a political issue if I am honest.

The BA haven't been wearing hard hats in the 6 counties over 20 years, yet everyone on here quoting political parties SF, FG etc as if it is some sort of a thing?

A girl from Bray goes to the UK and gets ahead in a career in media. On one particular week she tweets about working on a BA recruitment drive which she is probably getting nicely paid for. Obviously a fallow enough week, it gives the SF keyboard warriors an angle to pump up the outrage?

What are you going to do, make her disappear off the planet or something similar? Ban her from the internet? Like, what has her job choices go to do with Sinn Féin or Fine Gael or any Irish political party? I really think some posters are struggling to get it?

If anyone had any respect for the GFA and for the future of the 6 counties they would be well able to get on with this, instead of wasting their time screaming online outrage over a few tweets. I don't care what part of the island yous are from, get over yourselves. She is an Irish person working in the UK and getting on with her life, if you really loved this country and its' people yous would be getting on with having her back rather then stabbing at it online.

Well then she should at least be honest about it being a recruitment for the BA and getting paid for it instead of bladdering on about empowerment and body confidence.

ToTheSea

Jaysus Whitmore really isn't helping herself!!! with this Tweet and her replies

So people who have criticised her for taking a paid gig promoting the British are close-minded !!!! Like seriously.

She must really be living in la la land if she thought she could take payment to promote the British army and wouldn't be criticised in Ireland for it

James Brown

ToTheSea wrote: »

Jaysus Whitmore really isn't helping herself!!! with this Tweet and her replies

So people who have criticised her for taking a paid gig promoting the British are close-minded !!!! Like seriously.

She must really be living in la la land if she thought she could take payment to promote the British army and wouldn't be criticised in Ireland for it

I think she's referring to 'more women in the army' etc. And not acknowledging the Hume/BA promo connection or criticism.