Second Captains Part II

Arghus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034354#Comment_124034354

I think the fact that he's still only 21 gives some hope. He might not live up to his potential, there's every chance he won't - but I think there's a player there if he have a bit more luck with injuries.

Did you smash it

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034348#Comment_124034348

I am also deluding myself. We shall see.

cheese sandwich

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034382#Comment_124034382

21 isn’t young at that level. The players who make it have already done it by then. There are any number of guys who showed great promise as teenagers but then fall away, the game doesn’t wait for them.

I was very excited about EF when he burst on the scene with Brighton, but he’s done little since his first season. Hopefully he will have a decent career for the next 10-15 years but the notion that he might become a 100m+ player is no longer realistic.

Arghus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124034544#Comment_124034544

I going to have to disagree with you there. I think 21 is still young enough in football terms for things to go one way or another.

I also disagree that those who go on to be top strikers have done it at that age. Sure, there's examples of it, but there's many many strikers who went on to great things who were miles away from the top when they were older than Ferguson is now: Lewandowski was still in Poland, Drogba was in the French third division, Vardy was playing non league, Ian Wright was a part time footballer, Kane was struggling for games in the championship while out on loan...The list goes on. I completely disagree with that point.

I don't expect Ferguson to have a career at that level, but I think it's far too early to be calling his career at what is still a young age. And it wasn't just one season, he had two decent seasons at Brighton.

If you're asking me today do I think Ferguson will fulfill his potential... I'd be more 60/40 that he won't. His career momentum has stalled and he seems to have a real problem with staying fit. But, I still live in hope, if not expectation.

jones

Yeah as much as it pains me to say it I just don't see Ferguson making it "big". I think it's more likely than not he'll be a decent championship or maybe a lower premier League level striker. He's still relatively young but I just don't think he's got what it takes. I really hope I'm eating my words but he almost seems to be going backwards since essentially getting dropped by Brighton.

Successive managers just don't seem to rate him de zerbi after initially seeming to rate him then dropped him after he got injured, then Hürzeler, Potter at west ham and now Gasperini seems to be making similar noises to those before him.

I understand obsession with keeping tabs on him (we're not exactly blessed with young talented players at the moment) but it's beginning to get a bit sad for me. Just let the lad do his thing but it's looking increasingly less likely by the day that he'll be the top player we all hoped he would be when he burst onto the scene.

humberklog

II wasn't expecting much from the Catriona Jennings interview but I'm repeating myself here.... Eoin is a great interviewer and I'd like to hear more of that.

Tucker.Tim

Ireland having two talented strikers playing for good clubs in Europe is literally the type of problem I’ve waited all my life for us to have.

Tucker.Tim

Yer man they got on after the Saffa game is a cod, and I don’t mean Simon this time

The Davestator

I enjoyed the book show as always, but I can't help feel a little cheated not to have a **** autobiography in there for them to take the piss out of!

I always put the winning book on my Christmas wish list, but this year, it will be multiple

siblers

Would have been curious to know what they thought of Conor Murray's or Andy Farrell's book. Probably not too highly

Will probably give Touching Distance a go as I like Brendan Fanning. Was going to give David Gillick's a read but it sounds a bit too intense. I've zero interest in boxing

I'll definitely give Boris Becker's a read though, sounds quite interesting

Arghus

Has Ken ever made an appearance on the books of the year show?

I think he should have his own book of the year episode.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124038912#Comment_124038912

Actually yeah, a non-sports book of the year from Ken would be great.

Smell the glove

What's the chap like thats on today? Another echo chamber giving out about the right? I say this as a left leaning person but like hearing other perspectives.

Did you smash it

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124039484#Comment_124039484

pretty much, he vlogs fluidly and thinks cogently but yes it’s an echo chamber

Did you smash it

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124039443#Comment_124039443

Doubt he wants to be restricted to reading books that come out that year

dog_pig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124039484#Comment_124039484

When it comes to actual political analysis he's vacuous but that might be on brand in fairness.

cheese sandwich

Why am I supposed to care about what some American internet bullshit artist has to say?

siblers

He was kinda rude to whoever handed him the coffee. (Cillian I think it was)

You can tell him now, he went down in my estimations after he said that

bamayang

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124039647#Comment_124039647

he wasn’t at all. Whoever handed it to him said “this is probably not the nicest coffee” and he replied “it doesn’t matter I just need some energy” or something to that effect.

siblers

Ah so he did. I did him dirty

EltonJohn69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124039484#Comment_124039484

we need nick fuentes on for a rebuttal/ to keep things ideologically balanced on the show.

Raoul

The main thing I was thinking during the interview was has he used the word reactionary correctly 😂.

Tucker.Tim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124039484#Comment_124039484

It’s utterly bizarre that someone so diametrically opposed to the very obvious politics of the Second Captains listens at all. Left-leaning my left arse cheek.

Just like last year with TrueAnon, my two podcasting tentpoles of Second Captains and Chapo Trap House have inched even closer to crossing over. Happy days.

dog_pig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124040830#Comment_124040830

The podcast is as authentically left wing as Hasan Piker

Arghus

Wasn't too familiar with him before the pod... His solutions and analysis of things seemed a bit undergrad, but, I didn't think he was excessively bad on the pod - but, in retrospect,I think he diluted his schtick for the audience.

But, dug a little deeper afterwards and he's a questionable enough figure, to say the least, tbh.

There's another podcast out there called Decoding The Gurus. Their thing is critically assessing these Internet figures. Their episode on Hasan is a grim enough listen: examples of him in full apologia mode for Russia & China, being totally obnoxious... Not too impressive IMO.

I wonder how much Ken knew about him prior to the episode as there's big things there that could have been brought up.

EltonJohn69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124042699#Comment_124042699

Is he that man who set a dog on fire ?

EltonJohn69

watching the draw and I am starting to think that this might be the most evil World Cup in history.

siblers

I'd pay good money for a live Second Captains stream of this utter nonsense of a draw

EltonJohn69

those hands on the trophy look like they are clinging onto something….. maybe a raft ?

Hotblack Desiato

We thought it couldn't get any worse after Qatar…