Second Captains Part II

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

kilns wrote: »

Thats exactly the point, Germany gets 12bn from the EU, Ireland gets 2bn.

Germany net PAYS 12bn into the EU, Ireland net pays 2bn.

Did you smash it

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup wrote: »

Germany net PAYS 12bn into the EU, Ireland net pays 2bn.

Thanks for saying it. I chose not to bother.

tomwaits48

Another week of disproportionate coverage/gloating of a Man Utd defeat, compared to when they win.

Brock Turnpike

tomwaits48 wrote: »

Another week of disproportionate coverage/gloating of a Man Utd defeat, compared to when they win.

Never let your support of a team cloud your listening experience.

tomwaits48

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Never let your support of a team cloud your listening experience.

Lol, you are right.

As an aside, what’s the craic the political pod? Hasn’t been one in ages?

kilns

Did you smash it wrote: »

Thanks for saying it. I chose not to bother.

Not true, Ireland pay net 229 million net not 2bn, Germany pay net 12bn yes, but they receive back 12bn also but pay approx 24 bn in

Jesus even I have forgot what the original point was

Cienciano

tomwaits48 wrote: »

Another week of disproportionate coverage/gloating of a Man Utd defeat, compared to when they win.

Lampard and Jose are doing well, have to target someone else!

It doesn't bother me one bit to be honest, but I'd imagine if you supported one of the teams it would get tiresome

Say Your Number

I'd agree with Ken, it would have been annoying if that Denver Broncos receiver was a success at QB.

US Murph reminiscing about doing live shows, Ken watching football in the corner ignoring everyone, people going in and out to the bar mid-show annoys me too.

Remember Eoin saying way back on OTB that Peter Collins kind of ignored him and talked a lot to some other lad about Hockey for a while.

Xavi6

Ken's lack of interest in work experience kids was brilliant because it's probably how most people feel when they get lumped with one

siblers

Murph missing from today's Podcast. Might sound harsh but its every bit as good without him. Wouldn't really miss him tbh

den87

I like Murph for the GAA talk but sometimes he comes off as forced.

MercuryBoy

That chat with Sadlier re Jack Byrne seemed to go on forever, I nearly fell asleep at the wheel

Raoul

MercuryBoy wrote: »

That chat with Sadlier re Jack Byrne seemed to go on forever, I nearly fell asleep at the wheel

Also...he did sfa in the cup final.

EltonJohn69

MercuryBoy wrote: »

That chat with Sadlier re Jack Byrne seemed to go on forever, I nearly fell asleep at the wheel

There was hot hot hot premier league action to review... and they squandered the podcast by talking about jack byrne/ league of Ireland

healy1835

Lads, leave off Murph. He's the glue that keeps it all together. Richie on the other hand...he just seems to drain the life out of whatever topic he's on to talk about. I like the Players Chair and he's clearly suited to that style of interviewing but it's rare that he adds anything when on as a pundit.

EltonJohn69

healy1835 wrote: »

Lads, leave off Murph. He's the glue that keeps it all together. Richie on the other hand...he just seems to drain the life out of whatever topic he's on to talk about. I like the Players Chair and he's clearly suited to that style of interviewing but it's rare that he adds anything when on as a pundit.

He peaked after the millwall Christmas party story, been chasing the dragon ever since

Did you smash it

Brexit changes Irish football quite significantly. It’s worthy of discussion although they didn’t address could young Irish players go to portugal or Germany or other EU leagues now at any age.

Did you smash it

healy1835 wrote: »

Lads, leave off Murph. He's the glue that keeps it all together. Richie on the other hand...he just seems to drain the life out of whatever topic he's on to talk about. I like the Players Chair and he's clearly suited to that style of interviewing but it's rare that he adds anything when on as a pundit.

He’s not the glue at all. Ken is the glue....and most of the rest as well.

healy1835

Did you smash it wrote: »

He’s not the glue at all. Ken is the glue....and most of the rest as well.

He [Murphy] is a f*%king great presenter, and you're all f*%king idiots.

dulpit

Did you smash it wrote: »

He’s not the glue at all. Ken is the glue....and most of the rest as well.

Ken is good, but would be useless for anything that isn't soccer. Murph at least has interest across a range of sports.

siblers

Did you smash it wrote: »

He’s not the glue at all. Ken is the glue....and most of the rest as well.

If Ken is missing I don't bother listening to the football podcast. Seems pointless unless they have someone like Tim Vickery or Jonathan Wilson on to make it worth while.

Also, I was very surprised Eoin said Chris Wilder should STFU. Seemed slightly out of character for him

Brock Turnpike

dulpit wrote: »

Ken is good, but would be useless for anything that isn't soccer. Murph at least has interest across a range of sports.

Disagree. He's generally very funny when talking about other sports. A great "colour" commentator on other sports.

dulpit

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Disagree. He's generally very funny when talking about other sports. A great "colour" commentator on other sports.

He's good for other sports as a "as well as" contributor, but not "instead of", if that makes sense?

Ultimately though, I think all 5 of them are needed to make the show what it is.

Beersmith

I am writing the following in a very light playful tone but I have noticed Ken has been shown to have been very wrong a lot of recent times and actually in fairness he has been saying this on-air, a few here:

>Gerrard at rangers (thought he would totally fail)
>Dundalk guaranteed winners of the LOI for the next decade (on the basis of 1 Europa league campaign)
>Stephen Kenny (as Ireland manager)
>Mourinho (at spurs)
>Pogba (that it essentially was Mourinho's problem)
>Kane (being finished)
>James Rodriguez (signing for Everton)
>Everton being in with a decent chance at the top
>Lampard (doing well)
>Mount and Abraham (not being able to get into the lineup)
>Kepa (thought it was just Lampard's tactics)
>David Silva (his quality as Real Sociedad are on fire)
>Atlectico Madrid (written off as the Simone has been there too long etc)
>Bayern (that they can't compete as the TV revenue isn't in the Bundesliga)
>Henderson (at Liverpool)
>Brendan Rogers (career in general)
>Moyes (at West Ham)
>Neymar at PSG (Barca not looking a great place and PSG doing well in the CL and him playing very well)

....maybe we shouldn't necessarily agree with anything Ken Early has to say about football

tomwaits48

Beersmith wrote: »

I am writing the following in a very light playful tone but I have noticed Ken has been shown to have been very wrong a lot of recent times and actually in fairness he has been saying this on-air, a few here:

>Gerrard at rangers (thought he would totally fail)
>Dundalk guaranteed winners of the LOI for the next decade (on the basis of 1 Europa league campaign)
>Stephen Kenny (as Ireland manager)
>Mourinho (at spurs)
>Pogba (that it essentially was Mourinho's problem)
>Kane (being finished)
>James Rodriguez (signing for Everton)
>Everton being in with a decent chance at the top
>Lampard (doing well)
>Mount and Abraham (not being able to get into the lineup)
>Kepa (thought it was just Lampard's tactics)
>David Silva (his quality as Real Sociedad are on fire)
>Atlectico Madrid (written off as the Simone has been there too long etc)
>Bayern (that they can't compete as the TV revenue isn't in the Bundesliga)
>Henderson (at Liverpool)
>Brendan Rogers (career in general)
>Moyes (at West Ham)
>Neymar at PSG (Barca not looking a great place and PSG doing well in the CL and him playing very well)

....maybe we shouldn't necessarily agree with anything Ken Early has to say about football

So was Dunphy right then, you need to have played the professionally to truly understand it?

Ol' Donie

Pretty sure the "remember this is just a football game" in the US Murph intro was commentary interrupted by the news of John Lennon's murder, 40 years ago today.

Just y'know, saying.

Did you smash it

Beersmith wrote: »

I am writing the following in a very light playful tone but I have noticed Ken has been shown to have been very wrong a lot of recent times and actually in fairness he has been saying this on-air, a few here:

>Gerrard at rangers (thought he would totally fail)
>Dundalk guaranteed winners of the LOI for the next decade (on the basis of 1 Europa league campaign)
>Stephen Kenny (as Ireland manager)
>Mourinho (at spurs)
>Pogba (that it essentially was Mourinho's problem)
>Kane (being finished)
>James Rodriguez (signing for Everton)
>Everton being in with a decent chance at the top
>Lampard (doing well)
>Mount and Abraham (not being able to get into the lineup)
>Kepa (thought it was just Lampard's tactics)
>David Silva (his quality as Real Sociedad are on fire)
>Atlectico Madrid (written off as the Simone has been there too long etc)
>Bayern (that they can't compete as the TV revenue isn't in the Bundesliga)
>Henderson (at Liverpool)
>Brendan Rogers (career in general)
>Moyes (at West Ham)
>Neymar at PSG (Barca not looking a great place and PSG doing well in the CL and him playing very well)

....maybe we shouldn't necessarily agree with anything Ken Early has to say about football

Great post. I don’t recall all of them but I actually have a few to add.

Said around 2014 that Real should sell Ronaldo. A truly terrible call even at the time but especially when you look at what Ronaldo went on to do.

Sergio Ramos- a player Ken wrote off as a head case that is now proving indispensable to Real Madrid.

David Luiz proclaimed as the worlds best defender.

That Crystal Palace were kind of finished after sacking Ronald De Boer. Basically went on from strength to strength since under Hodgson.


One thing I think he was right about- Neymar’s move to PSG has been a bad career move. He would have done better to stay at Barca. Him leaving is basically why Barca are in a tailspin. If he stayed with Messi and Suarez they’d have won at least one more European cup.

Beersmith

Did you smash it wrote: »

Great post. I don’t recall all of them but I actually have a few to add.

Said around 2014 that Real should sell Ronaldo. A truly terrible call even at the time but especially when you look at what Ronaldo went on to do.

Sergio Ramos- a player Ken wrote off as a head case that is now proving indispensable to Real Madrid.

David Luiz proclaimed as the worlds best defender.

That Crystal Palace were kind of finished after sacking Ronald De Boer. Basically went on from strength to strength since under Hodgson.


One thing I think he was right about- Neymar’s move to PSG has been a bad career move. He would have done better to stay at Barca. Him leaving is basically why Barca are in a tailspin. If he stayed with Messi and Suarez they’d have won at least one more European cup.

Damn was meant to add ramos to it alright!

EltonJohn69

Beersmith wrote: »

I am writing the following in a very light playful tone but I have noticed Ken has been shown to have been very wrong a lot of recent times and actually in fairness he has been saying this on-air, a few here:

>Gerrard at rangers (thought he would totally fail)
>Dundalk guaranteed winners of the LOI for the next decade (on the basis of 1 Europa league campaign)
>Stephen Kenny (as Ireland manager)
>Mourinho (at spurs)
>Pogba (that it essentially was Mourinho's problem)
>Kane (being finished)
>James Rodriguez (signing for Everton)
>Everton being in with a decent chance at the top
>Lampard (doing well)
>Mount and Abraham (not being able to get into the lineup)
>Kepa (thought it was just Lampard's tactics)
>David Silva (his quality as Real Sociedad are on fire)
>Atlectico Madrid (written off as the Simone has been there too long etc)
>Bayern (that they can't compete as the TV revenue isn't in the Bundesliga)
>Henderson (at Liverpool)
>Brendan Rogers (career in general)
>Moyes (at West Ham)
>Neymar at PSG (Barca not looking a great place and PSG doing well in the CL and him playing very well)

....maybe we shouldn't necessarily agree with anything Ken Early has to say about football

Ken = Not a real football man.

unplayable

ken is a top football contributor. whether he has what it takes to be a top, top, top football contributor, i dont know.