Blazing Saddles RTE1

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Brilliant film from the genius Mel Brooks. If only we had more talent like him writing.

I count on one hand decent movies I can watch in the modern era. So many have no script.

Wanderer78

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah. In reality the only ones having a meltdown are the ones imagining the woke generation getting upset about it. Hard to imagine such an out of date movie holding anyone's attention now.

i still find it exceptionally funny, incredible imagination and intelligence in brooks

daheff

Montage of Feck wrote: »

The 70's was the high water mark for movies.

and early/mid 80s.

newer films try too much with CGI or are remakes. Originality and fun is gone.

El_Duderino 09

Wanderer78 wrote: »

i still find it exceptionally funny, incredible imagination and intelligence in brooks

Yeah I have nostalgia movies that I enjoyed when i was a teenager. If I saw those movies for the first time as an adult there's no way it would have held my attention. BS is a good teen movie. Fart jokes and swearing jokes are aimed at teenagers. Was it aimed at adults when it was released?

Agent Smith

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Disgraceful bloody film. It was high time it was put in the dustbin. Enjoy racism and trying to pass it off as 'satire' or 'irony' is a farce. It's a trashy film for trashy people.

"Piss on you! I'm working for Mel Brooks!"

Seamai

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah. In reality the only ones having a meltdown are the ones imagining the woke generation getting upset about it. Hard to imagine such an out of date movie holding anyone's attention now.

Might want to get that raw nerve seen to.

Wanderer78

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah I have nostalgia movies that I enjoyed when i was a teenager. If I saw those movies for the first time as an adult there's no way it would have held my attention. BS is a good teen movie. Fart jokes and swearing jokes are aimed at teenagers. Was it aimed at adults when it was released?

society has moved on from a large proportion of the humor in the movie, but of course it is largely nostalgic to many of us, including myself. but i do think many younger generations are possibly overly sensitive to anything thats controversial, i find it very unusual, ive been to many comedy gigs and been offended, frankie boyle comes to mind, but i shook it off and carried on

bladespin

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Hard to imagine such an out of date movie holding anyone's attention now.

Ye wha? Have you not seen the news lately??? That movie did more for equality than BLM ever will.

El_Duderino 09

Wanderer78 wrote: »

society has moved on from a large proportion of the humor in the movie, but of course it is largely nostalgic to many of us, including myself. but i do think many younger generations are possibly overly sensitive to anything thats controversial, i find it very unusual, ive been to many comedy gigs and been offended, frankie boyle comes to mind, but i shook it off and carried on

That's what almost everyone does if they are offended by something today too. The only difference between then and now is social media.

I think the content is almost irrelevant today. The mere notion of a black man in charge of white poeple was genuinely shocking to lots of people back then. But in an era when the US has had a (half) black president, it loses all social impact.

Now it's mostly just a movie for people who think it's edgy because they say the word n*gger so often. One poster even thinks it's two fingers to the PC brigade.

Above all its just irrelevant now.

But do you think it was aimed at adults when it was released or would you say it was aimed mostly at teenagers?

El_Duderino 09

bladespin wrote: »

Ye wha? Have you not seen the news lately??? That movie did more for equality than BLM ever will.

That's an interesting perspective. The kinds of people who want to talk down and oppose BLM are precisely the same peope who would have opposed the civil rights movement and would have opposed BS when it was new.

I don't see any need to pit BLM against BS. I'll leave that to you.

GreeBo

Bannasidhe wrote: »

I saw homosexuals beating the living crap out of the rough tough macho cowboys while still looking fabulous.

Nice homage in Banshee with Job character.

pixelburp

daheff wrote: »

and early/mid 80s.

newer films try too much with CGI or are remakes. Originality and fun is gone.

Considering Blazing Saddles was made as an intentional pastiche of a Hollywood obsessed with churning out Westerns, there's no basis to say a lack of originality is a new thing. Heck with VOD such as Netflix, Amazon et al there's a fair argument that American cinema has never been so diverse in content, you just gotta look for it and not rely on the cinema listings.

As to Blazing Saddles itself, meh. It's funny but not Brooks' best work IMO. That for me would be Young Frankenstein but I guess you can't get the "dem woke folks wouldn't like it now!" Joe Duffy esque moaning that's going on here.

Dodge

pixelburp wrote: »

As to Blazing Saddles itself, meh. It's funny but not Brooks' best work IMO. That for me would be Young Frankenstein but I guess you can't get the "dem woke folks wouldn't like it now!" Joe Duffy esque moaning that's going on here.

But that's literally only a couple of people. And 1 or 2 more who seem upset by it

The majority on the thread either enjoy the film, or acknowledge it's role in furthering the civil rights movement

As is so often the case, the fringes get amplified but it's clear the majority of people see it for what it is. After that humour is all subjective

bladespin

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I don't see any need to pit BLM against BS. I'll leave that to you.

I think you misunderstood that bit, not really pitting them against each other per say just pointing out that the target audience for BS message (well, the moral one anyway) would have been a lot wider than BLM. The utterly vast majority now know racism is vile, not so many back in the 70s - bear in mind this was as a time when the KKK were renewed and growing fast - something BLM doesn't really have to contend with.

Rothko

Bannasidhe wrote: »

I'm a member of the LQBTQ+ community and I still sing along to that song "suck in your tum, stick out your tush" cos know what I saw as a wee baby one watching that film? I saw homosexuals beating the living crap out of the rough tough macho cowboys while still looking fabulous.

And I've watched it with black friends who are also LGBTQ+ and they think it's hysterically funny.

The straight white conservative people in that film are thick. That's the joke.

The guy is a blatantly obvious troll. Don't respond to him.

El_Duderino 09

pixelburp wrote: »

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As to Blazing Saddles itself, meh. It's funny but not Brooks' best work IMO. That for me would be Young Frankenstein but I guess you can't get the "dem woke folks wouldn't like it now!" Joe Duffy esque moaning that's going on here.

I mean, that must be one of the biggest appeals about the movie for loads of its fans nowadays. The first words of the OP of this thread are "not at all PC" and goes on to say they expect RTE to get emails about it.

The false notion that it's not an anti-PC movie and the script contains the word n*gger abd the fantasy that it will trigger young people, are probably the biggest appeals to its fans in the modern context.

El_Duderino 09

bladespin wrote: »

I think you misunderstood that bit, not really pitting them against each other per say just pointing out that the target audience for BS message (well, the moral one anyway) would have been a lot wider than BLM. The utterly vast majority now know racism is vile, not so many back in the 70s - bear in mind this was as a time when the KKK were renewed and growing fast - something BLM doesn't really have to contend with.

Well, you did pit them against each other. But the point stands that the same people who like to minimise BLM and talk it down and focus on the negatives (oppose it without saying they oppose it) are precisely the ones who would gave opposed the civil rights movement. They would not have liked the message in this movie back when the message was relevant.

It was written as an uber-PC movie but some credulous people may have drawn some people who didn't get the satire. See the OP's first words in this thread "not at all PC". That's pretty funny.

Does anyone know if it was aimed primarily at a teenage audience or an adult audience?

Wanderer78

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Well, you did pit them against each other. But the poibt stands that the same oeople who like to minimise BLM and talk it down and focus on the negatives (oppose it without saying they oppose it) are precisely the ones who would gave opposed the civil rights movement. They would not umave liked the message in this movie back when the message was relevant.

It was written as an uber-PC movie but sone credulous people may have drawn some people who didn't get the satire. See the OP's first words in this thread "not at all PC". That's pretty funny.

Does anyone know if it was aimed primarily at a teenage audience or an adult audience?

both id say, i know it was the most watched movie on metallicas tour bus early in their career, they probably would have been in their early 20's then

El_Duderino 09

Wanderer78 wrote: »

both id say, i know it was the most watched movie on metallicas tour bus early in their career, they probably would have been in their early 20's then

I'll take your word for it. It's hard to imagine an adult movie with even one scene based around fart jokes today. Maybe comedy was different back then, a lower bar. I don't think I'm missing much if that kind of thing was classed as good comedy in the old days. But you look back further and they had those variety shows that people used to think were funny.

Wanderer78

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I'll take your word for it. It's hard to imagine an adult movie with even one scene based around fart jokes today. Maybe comedy was different back then, a lower bar. I don't think I'm missing much if that kind of thing was classed as good comedy in the old days. But you look back further and they had those variety shows that people used to think were funny.

yup different times, comedy in ways is a lot more edgy nowadays, frankie boyle is fairly cutting

El_Duderino 09

Wanderer78 wrote: »

yup different times, comedy in ways is a lot more edgy nowadays, frankie boyle is fairly cutting

I like his work. Probably too woke for the anti-PC types but in 50 years time he might get support from the people he opposes who don't get cultural context or satire - like the ones who don't get that BS was such a PC movie.

Wanderer78

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I like his work. Probably too woke for the anti-PC types but in 50 years time he might get support from the people he opposes who don't get cultural context or satire - like the ones who don't get that BS was such a PC movie.

he is good, but he is very intense, people walked out of the show i was at, he even pushed my boundaries, but i did enjoy him. god only knows hat humans will be into in 50 years time, we ll probably have widely accepted bestiality by then

LiquidZeb

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Yeah and a homophobic slur thrown into the song for good measure. Tell me have you asked a BAME person or a member of the LGBTQIA+ community what they think of the film and it's 'humour?'

No, but I watched it with two LOLLERS, an FW and a closet LAM, and they all loved it!

CastorTroy

My parents who are in their 60s and 70s watched it at the weekend for the first time and they enjoyed it

ArmaniJeanss

Perfectly reciting Gabby Johnsons 'authentic frontier gibberish' speech used to be my drunken party piece.
Had to look it up now sadly.

"I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin' bushwackin', hornswagglin' cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter. "

joebloggs32

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I'll take your word for it. It's hard to imagine an adult movie with even one scene based around fart jokes today. Maybe comedy was different back then, a lower bar. I don't think I'm missing much if that kind of thing was classed as good comedy in the old days. But you look back further and they had those variety shows that people used to think were funny.

If you were to take Mrs Brown, its an adult comedy with most of the "jokes" based around using the F word.
People laugh at different things.
I cant stand Mrs Brown, but I still find this film very funny even though I'm in my 40s now

pixelburp

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I'll take your word for it. It's hard to imagine an adult movie with even one scene based around fart jokes today. Maybe comedy was different back then, a lower bar. I don't think I'm missing much if that kind of thing was classed as good comedy in the old days. But you look back further and they had those variety shows that people used to think were funny.

Not quite farting, but one of the best scenes in Bridesmaids revolves around the desperate need for a toilet during a dress fitting. So I don't think scatalogical humour is dead, more perhaps that brief phase of gross-out films in the early 2000s made it less fashionable and seem a lazy path for comedy.

Rothko

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I like his work. Probably too woke for the anti-PC types but in 50 years time he might get support from the people he opposes who don't get cultural context or satire - like the ones who don't get that BS was such a PC movie.

First time I've seen him described as "woke". Lol

El_Duderino 09

joebloggs32 wrote: »

If you were to take Mrs Brown, its an adult comedy with most of the "jokes" based around using the F word.
People laugh at different things.
I cant stand Mrs Brown, but I still find this film very funny even though I'm in my 40s now

Yeah I suppose there's no accounting for taste.

The movie came out before/around the time you were born. So you probably saw it first as a teenager abd firmed your opinion of it then. I saw it first as a teenager too and thought it was funny because it has fart jokes and they say n*gger loads while parodying racism.

I suppose you'd need to talk to people in their 40s or 50s when the movie came out first and see what they thought of it when it came out. But those people are in their 90s now.

El_Duderino 09

Rothko wrote: »

First time I've seen him described as "woke". Lol

Yeah he's very left wing/woke/socialist/progressive. Hard to keep up with the derogatory terms but he's woke in the same way that Blazing Saddles was very woke when it was new.