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Warhammer 40k Darktide (makers of vermintide)

  • 23-07-2020 5:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭




    4 players coop shooter.


    Vermintide was very good (1 and 2) so will get this.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,455 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Hopefully it's not just hordes of Nurgle zombies, Left 4 Dead style.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    Vermintide's a lot of fun, and there was a marked improvement (IMHO) from the first to the second which suggests to me that these devs (Fat Shark) are no slouches. Definitely excited to see more of this over the coming months, I'm a big 40K fan and it's so rare you get to be a (what looks like) a bog standard human in a 40K game! Stomping around as a SPESS MAHREEN is all fine and well, but sometimes you want the challenge and frailty of being an Imperial Guard grunt :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    Was watching this and thought "huh, that looks like a Plasma gun hehe....wait, thats a ****ing Lasgun!"

    Really looking forward to this, Vermintide was good fun, probably the best FPS melee combat around so hope Fatshark can bring that feeling to ranged weapons. Though the game did start to feel very repetitive after several dozen hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Gunmonkey wrote: »
    Though the game did start to feel very repetitive after several dozen hours.

    Kinda thought the same then I visited the reddit page, clearly I was playing the game wrong. There are things in that game i had and still have no clue about. Its a lot deeper than urrhhh smash smash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    vermintide with a new skin, nothing too exciting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,761 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    I need more 40K, will be buying. Fatshark have proven they are well capable of doing great coop with both vermintide games.
    I would've prefered Orks, but Waaaaaghtever.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    If you need a 40K fix, there's a whole heap of older Games Workshop games in a Humble Bundle Don't forget, there's a Necromunda game from the people that made Mordheim due any time now too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    So you're Imperial Soldiers in this?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,377 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    So you're Imperial Soldiers in this?
    Looks like bog standard local defence forces (i.e. a step below the Imperial Guard) with flashlights (i.e. standard laser rifle) sent in to investigate; instead of say the actual forces of the Inquisition or an Inquisition warband. Honestly I find that a pity because an Inquisition entourage would allow a very wide set of possible roles and even races to play out with fansy wargear (while still not being Astartes power armor marines)...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75




    I liked Space Hulk: deathwing which this seems to supercede and stamp into the ground.

    This is 100% day one purchase.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,377 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    I'm honestly disappointed that they simply made Vermintide 2 with a new skin instead of actually develop the game play. Oh hey we're meleeing our enemies down with some shooting, oh and the chaos types are nurgle (AGAIN!). Exactly what's different compared to vermintide again except the skins?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Nody wrote: »
    I'm honestly disappointed that they simply made Vermintide 2 with a new skin instead of actually develop the game play. Oh hey we're meleeing our enemies down with some shooting, oh and the chaos types are nurgle (AGAIN!). Exactly what's different compared to vermintide again except the skins?


    I agree, i love vermintide 2 in particular but this looks like a mod or a reskin.
    To counter this thought however if they improve the combat make it feel more meaty and impactful i might jump in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    /snip

    I liked Space Hulk: deathwing which this seems to supercede and stamp into the ground.

    This is 100% day one purchase.

    Didn't know there were Hulking humans in the Guard, or in General...? :p


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,377 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    Didn't know there were Hulking humans in the Guard, or in General...? :p
    I guess you never tried to shake hands with an Ogryn then :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Release date set for September 13th this year.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Looks like we'll be hearing something at the Skulls event which starts on Wednesday. Fatshark are counting down to that date anyway!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    I'll spare you videos 3 to 1. Suffice to say we'll be seeing a new trailer and/or gameplay later today.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    New cinematic trailer will have to suffice for now. There'll be some gameplay at Summer Games Fest next week, according to the pinned YT comment.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Forgot to add, this is coming to PC GamePass but I don't know if that's for day 1 or not.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,377 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    And confirmed to have pay for money premium currency for the in game store, not overly impressed by that...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Yeah, not a fan in general but this is for cosmetics only, AFAIK.

    Edit: From an FAQ on the official site;

    The Imperial Edition contains ‘Aquilas’, a premium currency. Does this mean there will be microtransactions in Darktide?

    Aquilas are a premium currency that can be used to purchase premium cosmetic items in the in-game store.


    Wait… I have to buy all cosmetics?

    Nope. The in-game store will not be the only way for players to attain cosmetics. Players will also be able to earn some cosmetics through in-game milestones, such as progressing through certain points of the story.


    Will you only sell cosmetics in the in-game store?

    We will focus on cosmetics at launch - but we also are open to other offerings and will look to players feedback to evolve that over time. For example, Vermintide 2 players were happy with the Forgotten Relics weapon pack introduced alongside an entirely free Game Mode. This is not something we currently plan for in Darktide, but we don’t want to limit ourselves, either.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,377 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    At launch; you know they are highly likely to add "time savers to catch up to your friends" etc. as the game gets older. I don't think it will be as egregious as Diablo immortal ("Hi, I heard you want to spend 100k USD to get the top tier damage, mods, health modifers etc. unlocked for ONE class? No problem..." and yes that's the actual cost but it would only take you a decade or two to do it FTP in a PvP game...) but the fact they include it from the start in a fully costed game rubs me the wrong way and puts it in "bargain bin purchase only" status.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Official gameplay trailer from SGF;

    Gameplay recorded from a Twitch stream;




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Dev Blog on Steam has some good info.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,377 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Full mission play through with two characters.

    I watched the first 5 min before starting to speed skip as I was bored; I'm not quite sure what's not clicking but it seems very generic in models, the voices grate on me and I think it all sums up to not "feeling" like anything beyond generic. You could replace WH40k with pretty much anything else and you'd not notice the difference, the weapons are not in any way iconic etc. nor are the enemies, the environment etc. for me. I was expecting a reskin; instead this to me looks worse than Vermintide which is not what I was expecting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy




  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    For anyone who pre ordered you get access to the final beta in a few days leading up to release on the 30th.

    Worth mentioning as anyone who played vermintide will know this is a chellenging game with a very high skill ceiling and a lot of underlying mechanics.

    This vid is a good place to learn more.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Nice to see milkandcookies still making content - used to watch a lot of his Total War stuff.

    Really looking forward to this, but my PC is currently in no fit state to do any gaming so it might be after Christmas before I can jump in. 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    this is getting a pc game pass release correct?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Yep, although crucially for a co-op game it won't have cross play with the Steam version.

    Launch trailer;

    Really enjoying Jesper Kyd's soundtrack on Spotify. 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    My gaming buddies have gamepass so cross play thankfully isn't an issue



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Good game but performance is atrocious, while my rig isnt anything close to high spec no other game brings it to its knees.

    Im not alone steam forums,official forums and reddit all have many huge threads about it.

    https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/c/darktide/performance-feedback/97



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Yeah this is the first game I'm really struggling to get a 1080ti to play at any setting at medium or above comfortably



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    1080Ti here also ,this is by far the worst optimized game ive played in a long time.

    Using this config it does get very smooth but doesnt look great but atleast its playable.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/yyfwse/framerate_guide/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Thanks for that, I'll try that file change later 👍 crazy that a 1080ti (similar performance raw performance to a 3060ti) struggles what this on 1080p/1440p/4k, most surprising thing for me is that setting the game to any resolution doesn't change the performance anywhere near what it should do, tell tale signs of bad optimization really I suppose.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Just a fyi , the patch they dropped on Saturday has improved things dramatically for me and im not using the above config anymore.

    Apparently they had very high ray tracing set to on by default aswell as a few other bels and whistles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz



    Yeah I'm doing much better now as well, fsr 2 with high settings @ 1440p giving me between 60 - 80 FPS. Loving the game now tbh, if they continue to support and add content it could be a great game. Has me finally delving into 40k lore too 😁



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Yeah its very good, i played a lot of vermintide 2 but this is so much better.

    I wish they had a few more outdoor segments in the maps though, not really a negative but more an observation.

    If vermintide 2 is anything to go buy they will support this game long term,they made a lot of DLC for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    No issues playing other than 2 minor issues, if a barrel explodes I always gets yeeted off the map.

    The demonhost attacks me every single time, if i go into that room 1st,2nd,3rd or 4th doesnt matter, he sees me then chases me around the room beating the **** out of me. Handy for the other players to not have to worry about him :(



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    lol its the badness in you attracting the demonhost :P

    Did you try sneak past as in crouch?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    I've a surefire tactic for the demonhost, play a big boy with a shield, get it's attention, back into a corner and plant the shield in the ground. It will keep beating on the shield while everyone else beats on it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Its a bit bonkers tbh played with 3 random Ogryns and they were pissing themselves as it happened 3 times in a row.

    Good game and as mentioned Fat Shark will pump this full of extras.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,761 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    It's taken ages, but there's a massive new patch for this, and the XBOX release was yesterday (also on gamepass atm)

    They've added fairly cool changes to the characters skill trees.. entirely reworked them, with 30 points to throw around in whatever of the 3 specs for all 4 classes.

    Some new animations, loads of new skills, voicelines etc.. Feels like a new game with some the classes, particularly the pysker and zealot builds. Ogryn is beefier than ever..

    If you have this in your library with nothing else going on, give it a shot.. worth it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,761 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    Another big free content patch last week, and another due before christmas.

    New map(s, second is before xmas), changes to veteran class, great craic :)



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