New Employee Got Mugged

YFlyer

Our new employee from China got mugged on the Groody Road at approximately 7:30 pm Wednesday evening.

They threatened him with a screwdriver. Took his cash. Luckily they didn't take his laptop, memory sticks or bank cards.

He was fairly shaken since it was his first time ever getting mugged.

Yurt2

YFlyer wrote: »

Our new employee from China got mugged on the Groody Road at approximately 7:30 pm Wednesday evening.

They threatened him with a screwdriver. Took his cash. Luckily they didn't take his laptop, memory sticks or bank cards.

He was fairly shaken since it was his first time ever getting mugged.

Very sorry to hear your colleague went through that, and it must be traumatic for him.

To my understanding, the Gardai don't log such incidents as racially aggravated assaults / thefts, even though he was likely picked out because of his race. They should really start doing so.

Going by where it happened and the nature of the mugging, I'd wager that it was a native ethnic type that was the perp. Very little in the way of crime out that way bar the usual suspects.

Grab All Association

He was most likely mugged because he was a very easy target. Dirty scumbag(s) hopefully he got a good look at them and gave a good description to Gardai of what they looked like. Let’s hope the next person they target is able to take the screwdriver from them and stab them right in the balls.

YFlyer

Yurt! wrote: »

Very sorry to hear your colleague went through that, and it must be traumatic for him.

To my understanding, the Gardai don't log such incidents as racially aggravated assaults / thefts, even though he was likely picked out because of his race. They should really start doing so.

Going by where it happened and the nature of the mugging, I'd wager that it was a native ethnic type that was the perp. Very little in the way of crime out that way bar the usual suspects.

True, it normally quiet there.

Yeah I knew exactly who did it as I passed there before 7 pm and one of them was training his equine breed.

YFlyer

Grab All Association wrote: »

He was most likely mugged because he was a very easy target. Dirty scumbag(s) hopefully he got a good look at them and gave a good description to Gardai of what they looked like. Let’s hope the next person they target is able to take the screwdriver from them and stab them right in the balls.

The chap was well shaken. Shouldn't have been totally wet behind the ears as he is currently studying for his PhD at UCD.

Yurt2

I won't speculate.

YFlyer

Yurt! wrote: »

I won't speculate.

I was talking to the Chinese student this morning. He is over the initial shock.

Yurt2

Yurt! wrote: »

I won't speculate.

Don't believe those were my exact words but I'll accept the mod-snip!

YFlyer

Yurt! wrote: »

Don't believe those were my exact words but I'll accept the mod-snip!

I was replying to your earlier version of the post ðŸ˜

AllForIt

Yurt! wrote: »

Very sorry to hear your colleague went through that, and it must be traumatic for him.

To my understanding, the Gardai don't log such incidents as racially aggravated assaults / thefts, even though he was likely picked out because of his race. They should really start doing so.

Going by where it happened and the nature of the mugging, I'd wager that it was a native ethnic type that was the perp. Very little in the way of crime out that way bar the usual suspects.

Are you saying that when I lived in south London and I was robbed 3 times and intimidated 3 times all by people of colour that those incidents should have been recorded as a racist attack?

Yurt2

AllForIt wrote: »

Are you saying that when I lived in south London and I was robbed 3 times and intimidated 3 times all by people of colour that those incidents should have been recorded as a racist attack?

I don't know if you were explicitly targeted because of your race, but if you have reason to believe you were, I see no reason why it shouldn't be recorded by the police and serve as an aggravating factor in the crime. I'm honestly unaware of the legislative position in the UK with this; but I believe it should be introduced in Ireland for sure.

Cookiemunster

It's obvious not a nice thing to happen, but I'm not sure of the point of this thread. The OP has told the story and left it open ended. Are you looking for help in finding the attackers? Advice on what the victim should do? What's the fact that he's a new employee got to do with anything?

DrGreenThumb82

These scumbags are opportunists plain and simple.

If they saw a young Irish student in the same situation they'd have pounced too.

Racism is not the reason. They've never needed that to motivate their criminal behaviour.

YFlyer

Cookiemunster wrote: »

It's obvious not a nice thing to happen, but I'm not sure of the point of this thread. The OP has told the story and left it open ended. Are you looking for help in finding the attackers? Advice on what the victim should do? What's the fact that he's a new employee got to do with anything?

To mention that these attacks still occur.

Cookiemunster

YFlyer wrote: »

To mention that these attacks still occur.

In fairness it's not exactly news that muggings occur. They happen every day all over the world and as long as there are criminals and junkies will continue to happen. I'm still not sure why it was relevant that the victim was a new employee in your company though. It could happen to anyone.

YFlyer

Cookiemunster wrote: »

In fairness it's not exactly news that muggings occur. They happen every day all over the world and as long as there are criminals and junkies will continue to happen. I'm still not sure why it was relevant that the victim was a new employee in your company though. It could happen to anyone.

It was a local incident that happened to a foreign student.

consulatory

Yurt! wrote: »

Very sorry to hear your colleague went through that, and it must be traumatic for him.

To my understanding, the Gardai don't log such incidents as racially aggravated assaults / thefts, even though he was likely picked out because of his race. They should really start doing so.

Oh FFS. Not everything is racially motivated. The word racist is on the verge of losing all meaning.

bb1234567

Yurt! wrote: »

Very sorry to hear your colleague went through that, and it must be traumatic for him.

To my understanding, the Gardai don't log such incidents as racially aggravated assaults / thefts, even though he was likely picked out because of his race. They should really start doing so.

Going by where it happened and the nature of the mugging, I'd wager that it was a native ethnic type that was the perp. Very little in the way of crime out that way bar the usual suspects.

If the sole purpose was to rob the victim, then why do you think the the criminals chose to rob him because of his race? You havn't even met the lad or know what he looks like, (there are dozens of ethnic groups in China), and your'e bringing race into it without knowing anything about the crime beyond the very basic details. It may be very relevant, who knows, but saying it likely is racially motivated based on absolutely no evidence and then going onto criticise the police force for poor reporting of this type of crime is pretty ridiculous. When you posted that, you didn't even know whether the crime had been loged with the gardai, or what information the gardai looked for if it was.

6541

Limerick is a bad place.

bazz26

6541 wrote: »

Limerick is a bad place.

Stop using your parent's boards.ie account little one.

osarusan

Tbf, I'm assuming the idea that he might have been targeted because he was Chinese is just because he'd likely be an easier target (less familiar with muggings, less familiar with escape routes, less understanding of the actual physical danger he was in, more likely to be carrying large amounts of cash) that some race-based dislike of any Chinese ethnic groups.

That is to say, his race, or his foreignness at least, may have made him a target.

Muggers the world over target tourists/foreigners for the same reasons.

YFlyer

Sadly the guy got such a bad experience, he has left Limerick and gone back to UCD to continue his studies.

antix80

Yurt! wrote: »

To my understanding, the Gardai don't log such incidents as racially aggravated assaults / thefts, even though he was likely picked out because of his race. They should really start doing so.

They certainly should not.

callaway92

YFlyer wrote: »

Sadly the guy got such a bad experience, he has left Limerick and gone back to UCD to continue his studies.

Grim really. Scumbag doing the same to so many others no doubt.

Cookiemunster

YFlyer wrote: »

Sadly the guy got such a bad experience, he has left Limerick and gone back to UCD to continue his studies.

As I said before it's not a nice thing to happen, but it's not unique to Limerick. He's as likely to be mugged back in Dublin (or anywhere else) as he is in Limerick.

callaway92

Cookiemunster wrote: »

As I said before it's not a nice thing to happen, but it's not unique to Limerick. He's as likely to be mugged back in Dublin (or anywhere else) as he is in Limerick.

True, but how often do you hear of someone coming back from a city (eg Barcelona) and had a close call/mugged and their opinion of Spain is 'it's rough'. That'll be the guy's thought on Limerick now.

If never mugged in Dublin he'll obviously have that opinion of Limerick exclusively.

Cookiemunster

callaway92 wrote: »

True, but how often do you hear of someone coming back from a city (eg Barcelona) and had a close call/mugged and their opinion of Spain is 'it's rough'. That'll be the guy's thought on Limerick now.

If never mugged in Dublin he'll obviously have that opinion of Limerick exclusively.

I'm aware that this individual won't have a good memory of Limerick, but my point, in all my posts in this thread, is that this unfortunately happens everywhere, isn't unique to Limerick, isn't newsworthy and definitely isn't worthy of a whole thread.

banie01

callaway92 wrote: »

True, but how often do you hear of someone coming back from a city (eg Barcelona) and had a close call/mugged and their opinion of Spain is 'it's rough'. That'll be the guy's thought on Limerick now.

If never mugged in Dublin he'll obviously have that opinion of Limerick exclusively.

I've previously lived in Spain for a while, speak fairly good spanish, spent quite a bit of time travelling to Spanish cities still(Covid obviously stalled this) and Barcelona is bloody notorious for street crime, muggings and pick pocketing.

The student in question was unfortunate in that he was mugged.
The chances of him being mugged because he was Chinese are IMO near nil.
He was targeted as being coming from student accomodation or estate along with heading towards UL.

Easy mark for any quick mugging tbh.
Likely carrying a laptop, phone headphones and other electronic gear that would all be fairly quickly sold on.

If there was a modus to the targeting of the victim, it was far more likely to be that they were young, alone and carrying a backpack than it was they were Chinese.

I'm sorry Yflyer lost their employee, and that the kid had such an awful experience.
But this was far more likely a "student" victim in the eyes of the perpetrators than a Chinese one.

Anyone remember that family from Syria that said they'd rather go back to war torn Syria than stay in Limerick?..

bazz26

Were they sent back?

bb1234567

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone remember that family from Syria that said they'd rather go back to war torn Syria than stay in Limerick?..

And I would hazard a guess that they didn't leave:pac:

callaway92

banie01 wrote: »

I've previously lived in Spain for a while, speak fairly good spanish, spent quite a bit of time travelling to Spanish cities still(Covid obviously stalled this) and Barcelona is bloody notorious for street crime, muggings and pick pocketing.
.

Jesus..I literally just chose a named city at random..Barcelona was the name that came into my head..I don't particularly care if you lived there before etc. I've been there a heap of times too and never had issues. I could've just said Milan, whatever.

callaway92

callaway92 wrote: »

Jesus..I literally just chose a named city at random..Barcelona was the name that came into my head..I don't particularly care if you lived there before etc. I've been there a heap of times too and never had issues. I could've just said Milan, whatever.

yes but the other poster is correct.

Barcelona is notorious as a city for tourists being relieved of money /possessions - albeit usually the handbag swipe, the watch / necklace rip or pickpocketing as opposed to being threatened with a screwdriver or knife by a toerag

e.g. https://www.thejournal.ie/vigilante-patrols-in-barcelona-after-surge-in-crime-4780602-Aug2019/

https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-safety/europe/spain/barcelona-pickpocket-capital-of-the-world

banie01

callaway92 wrote: »

Jesus..I literally just chose a named city at random..Barcelona was the name that came into my head..I don't particularly care if you lived there before etc. I've been there a heap of times too and never had issues. I could've just said Milan, whatever.

I didn't say I lived in Barcelona,did I?
Much like the actual point of my post, another little thing you missed.

callaway92

glasso wrote: »

yes but the other poster is correct.

Barcelona is notorious for tourists being relieved of money /possessions - albeit usually the handbag swipe, the watch / necklace rip or pickpocketing as opposed to being threatened with a screwdriver or knife by a toerag

e.g. https://www.thejournal.ie/vigilante-patrols-in-barcelona-after-surge-in-crime-4780602-Aug2019/

Ah lads... I literally just picked a random city name. My god.

I could've just said Brussels or something random..

callaway92

banie01 wrote: »

I didn't say I lived in Barcelona,did I?
Much like the actual point of my post, another little thing you missed.

Whatever...you said Spain.

My god how has this thread gone in this direction like... people being poisonous for the sake of it

The young lad's impression of Limerick will be shít was the point originally and he's well within his right to have that opinion - Even if 99% of people say it's fine.

Cookiemunster

callaway92 wrote: »

Whatever...you said Spain.

My god how has this thread gone in this direction like... people being poisonous for the sake of it

The young lad's impression of Limerick will be shít was the point originally and he's well within his right to have that opinion - Even if 99% of people say it's fine.

Well done on completely misrepresenting the so called 99%. Absolutely nobody has said it was fine. Everybody who's posted has given their sympathy to the lad. Nobody is being poisonous either. We're all well aware that his impression of Limerick is ****.

However people get mugged every single day in every city in the world. People not from those cities will leave with a bad impression. It's not nice, but it not news and doesn't need a thread on boards.

callaway92

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Well done on completely misrepresenting the so called 99%. Absolutely nobody has said it was fine. Everybody who's posted has given their sympathy to the lad. Nobody is being poisonous either. We're all well aware that his impression of Limerick is ****.

However people get mugged every single day in every city in the world. People not from those cities will leave with a bad impression. It's not news though and doesn't need a thread on boards.

It's a Limerick forum though - Threads here would be based on local events surely? I didn't say the situation was fine btw - I said it's disgusting to have happened. **** sake like

I actually can't keep reading such nauseating stuff like the above... It's an issue that occurred in Limerick.

You and Banie just went off on a tangent here for no reason

I think ye misinterpreted my original point to be honest and have went off in a different direction altogether.

callaway92

callaway92 wrote: »

Ah lads... I literally just picked a random city name. My god.

I could've just said Brussels or something random..

well you picked a city that is notorious for street crime so quite a bad choice really in the context of the thread and your point in particular you'd have to agree.

callaway92

glasso wrote: »

well you picked a city that is notorious for street crime so quite a bad choice really in the context of the thread and your point in particular you'd have to agree.

Ah glasso please stop..The city I wrote (literally just wrote a city name) just happened to be that. What the hell is going on here, seriously now?

banie01

callaway92 wrote: »

Whatever...you said Spain.

My god how has this thread gone in this direction like... people being poisonous for the sake of it

The young lad's impression of Limerick will be shít was the point originally and he's well within his right to have that opinion - Even if 99% of people say it's fine.

Poisonous? Where? Who?
If you want to ignore the city and address the rest of my post outside of that?
Fine, great let's talk about what did happen and what your point is?

As for the young lads impression, of course it's going to be shít.
He got robbed when he was here to work.
A large number of Freshers and new arrivals to the Castletroy and UL area encounter this every year tho.

This thread was initially framed as the kid being targeted because he was Chinese, he 99.9% wasn't.
He was most likely targeted for the reasons I laid out in the post you decided to ignore other than whingeing about your poor choice of example being rebuffed.

Now if you want to leave out the example posited, and empathise with the victim? Brilliant.
I agree, it's a poor experience for any visitor.

I'd be all for increased Garda and even if possible Campus security presence on the student estates and routes to/from UL.

But other than that, what would you propose?

callaway92

banie01 wrote: »

Poisonous? Where? Who?
If you want to ignore the city and address the rest of my post outside of that?
Fine, great let's talk about what did happen and what your point is?

As for the young lads impression, of course it's going to be shít.
He got robbed when he was here to work.
A large number of Freshers and new arrivals to the Castletroy and UL area encounter this every year tho.

This thread was initially framed as the kid being targeted because he was Chinese, he 99.9% wasn't.
He was most likely targeted for the reasons I laid out in the post you decided to ignore other than whingeing about your poor choice of example being rebuffed.

Now if you want to leave out the example posited, and empathise with the victim? Brilliant.
I agree, it's a poor experience for any visitor.

I'd be all for increased Garda and even if possible Campus security presence on the student estates and routes to/from UL.

But other than that, what would you propose?

I don't know! It's just an unlucky occurrence for the fella and it was raised on the Limerick section of a discussion forum.

Nothing wrong with people talking about it. My god

EDIT: Can't believe I'm actually writing this - But the whole thing of you and Cookiemunster 'liking' all of each other's posts on this thread like 12 year olds is hilarious.

banie01

callaway92 wrote: »

I don't know! It's just an unlucky occurrence for the fella and it was raised on the Limerick section of a discussion forum.

Nothing wrong with people talking about it. My god

EDIT: Can't believe I'm actually writing this - But the whole thing of you and Cookiemunster 'liking' all of each other's posts on this thread like 12 year olds is hilarious.

You really need to step away from the internet and have a cookie.

I'm still struggling to grasp what your point is, and when you are asked what it actually is?
You don't know?

As for liking posts, is that not how you show agreement with a post?
Should I not do it? Should I ask your permission if it's ok to have an opinion before I try to share one?

Seriously, you are taking things very personally and are outraged at what?

Cookiemunster

callaway92 wrote: »

It's a Limerick forum though - Threads here would be based on local events surely? I didn't say the situation was fine btw - I said it's disgusting to have happened. **** sake like

I actually can't keep reading such nauseating stuff like the above... It's an issue that occurred in Limerick.

You and Banie just went off on a tangent here for no reason

I think ye misinterpreted my original point to be honest and have went off in a different direction altogether.

It's an issue that occurs everywhere and isn't unique to Limerick has been my point through the whole thread. I haven't gone off on any tangents, especially when your original post was a reply to me, that was your good self.

I suggest you calm down and actually read my posts. Nowhere did I say you think its is fine, I was replying to you accusing 99% of posters of thinking that it was fine, which is completely incorrect.

The only misrepresentation here is coming from yourself.

callaway92

Sorry...I just can't comment on this thread again - This is my last on. Reply to it as you wish my man.

My original reply to you wasn't an argument etc - It was a discussion point.

I didn't say 99% of posters think it's fine.

I said probably 99% of people living in Limerick think Limerick is fine.

banie01

Cookiemunster wrote: »

The only misrepresentation here is coming from yourself.

I'd thank that post, but I'm awaiting confirmation of the rules

Cookiemunster

callaway92 wrote: »

Sorry...I just can't comment on this thread again - This is my last on. Reply to it as you wish my man.

My original reply to you wasn't an argument etc - It was a discussion point.

I didn't say 99% of posters think it's fine.

I said probably 99% of people living in Limerick think Limerick is fine.

OK I read that part of your post incorrectly, but that's still completely and utterly rubbish. 99% of people in Limerick are law abiding citizens who would be aghast at anyone being mugged. Their race or origin doesn't come into it. I think you're just having a go at Limerick now.

banie01

Cookiemunster wrote: »

The only misrepresentation here is coming from yourself.

Cookie just said the above, and then you double down with this?

callaway92 wrote: »

I said probably 99% of people living in Limerick think Limerick is fine.

That's quite a claim, one I'd disagree with.
Limerick is far from fine, and I've not seen anyone claim that?

You are seriously after ranting based on nothing and are now making a baseless claim before bowing out?

Cupatae

Yurt! wrote: »

Very sorry to hear your colleague went through that, and it must be traumatic for him.

To my understanding, the Gardai don't log such incidents as racially aggravated assaults / thefts, even though he was likely picked out because of his race. They should really start doing so.

Going by where it happened and the nature of the mugging, I'd wager that it was a native ethnic type that was the perp. Very little in the way of crime out that way bar the usual suspects.

To be fair scumbags will rob any easy target infairness to em they don't discriminate

LawBoy2018

Muggings don't happen everywhere in my experience and are definitely prevolent in Limerick. Why, though? Students are regularly terrorised by these dodgy characters and very little is ever done about it. I have a friend whos house was burgled and he was threatened with a knife at 4am in his own bedroom in college court.

I roll my eyes whenever 'Blindboy' goes on a rant on twitter, proclaiming that Limerick > Galway and that tourists should wake up + agree. The vibes in Galway are nothing like Limerick's and in my 4 years of living there, I never heard on anyone being mugged. That being said, the city itself has come on a great stride in comparison to what it was like 5-6 years ago.

banie01

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

Why, though? Students are regularly terrorised by these dodgy characters and very little is ever done about it.

Very true, it's a point I made earlier.
Students are all too often seen as easy pickings by scummers.