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Dog caught and killed a neighbour's cat

  • 08-07-2020 5:02pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭


    I'm currently minding my sister's dog. A rottweiler. She's a dote. I was letting her out to do a toilet.

    After I released her, I noticed her charging for a cat I didn't realise was out there until it was too late. I let out a roar, the cat was too engrossed in a chicken carcass I left out for my feathered friends.

    She caught the cat unfortunately and damaged him quite badly. The cat did not survive the ordeal. I currently have her in a basket in the shed wrapped in a bed sheet.

    Could anyone please advise me on the best thing to do now? Should I post on my residents' WhatsApp group? Should I bury the cat in a hidden location and say nothing?

    Is this a bad sign the dog attacked a cat?

    Thanks for your contributions and sorry for the grizzly reading.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Oh. Dear. In so many ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    A dote :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    The cat is immaculately clean and has a collar (no bell or name tag). The cat would frequent have toileted in my garden at the back in the shrubs. But it never bothered me.


  • Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm currently minding my sister's dog. A rottweiler. She's a dote. I was letting her out to do a toilet.

    After I released her, I noticed her charging for a cat I didn't realise was out there until it was too late. I let out a roar, the cat was too engrossed in a chicken carcass I left out for my feathered friends.

    She caught the cat unfortunately and damaged him quite badly. The cat did not survive the ordeal. I currently have her in a basket in the shed wrapped in a bed sheet.

    Could anyone please advise me on the best thing to do now? Should I post on my residents' WhatsApp group? Should I bury the cat in a hidden location and say nothing?

    Is this a bad sign the dog attacked a cat?

    Thanks for your contributions and sorry for the grizzly reading.

    Well first off, it's sad. Hopefully the owners an adult. if it's a childs pet keep quiet, they don't need to know. Actually if I was you, I would'nt tell them either way.

    I dunno if you can hold it against the dog too much, it's nature. Was the dog trained as a puppy? You usually need to sort that out at the start.

    However, I do wish to know what 'feathered friends' were dining on chicken carcass. Do you have many vultures where you live?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,071 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    The cat is immaculately clean and has a collar (no bell or name tag). The cat would frequent have toileted in my garden at the back in the shrubs. But it never bothered me.

    I can’t tell from the words you’re using if you’re a bit weird or a troll. Probably the latter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭ronivek


    It's only right that you try to find the cat's owners.

    I presume this happened on your own property?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    ronivek wrote: »
    It's only right that you try to find the cat's owners.

    I presume this happened on your own property?

    It did. I don't know how though. Bar going to the vet to check for a microchip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭micah537


    callaway92 wrote: »
    I can’t tell from the words you’re using if you’re a bit weird or a troll. Probably the latter.


    Absolute troll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!


    However, I do wish to know what 'feathered friends' were dining on chicken carcass. Do you have many vultures where you live?

    The remains of the chicken I had for dinner. There was bits of meat remaining.

    I left it out. There's a ring tailed dove constantly in the garden and loads of seagulls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Crows will happily eat meat


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  • Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Crows will happily eat meat

    Crows, nature's snakes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,434 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Or you could have killed the dog with the (cooked) chicken carcass. Or the cat. Cat in a basket in a bedsheet? So many questions in this story. However I agree with the above, just dispose of the cat (with or without the bedsheet). If you advertise it people will have to come and identify it, and other messiness. As a cat owner (ie, one who is owned by cats) I know you have to be philosophical about cats going missing, this one went missing. And suggest to your sister that the doty dog gets some training.


  • Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The remains of the chicken I had for dinner. There was bits of meat remaining.

    I left it out. There's a ring tailed dove constantly in the garden and loads of seagulls.

    Who da fook feeds chicken to seagulls in their garden? A garden that now contains a Rottweiler!?!?

    Admit it, you put the food out, wait for the seagull and then it's the Rottweilers turn to dine.

    Your a sick person hjb, a sick person but I do enjoy your posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭corsav6


    I agree with the above advice, dump the cat and say nothing, cats are notorious for going missing.
    Also avoid leaving food out in the garden as you'll attract rodents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭ronivek


    It did. I don't know how though. Bar going to the vet to check for a microchip.

    I would bring it to the local vet in any event so they can both dispose of the body and check for a microchip.

    Otherwise you'd probably just have to keep an eye on local message boards or newspapers or knock around your neighbours.

    I'm not a cat owner so maybe I'm missing something; but if my dog went missing without a trace I'd be pretty upset and want to know what had happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Crows, nature's snakes


    Snakes. Nature's snakes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Sam Hain


    Crows, nature's snakes

    Aren't snakes, nature's snakes?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Riva10


    corsav6 wrote: »
    I agree with the above advice, dump the cat and say nothing, cats are notorious for going missing.
    .
    Cats lives matter. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,301 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    looksee wrote: »
    Or you could have killed the dog with the (cooked) chicken carcass. Or the cat. Cat in a basket in a bedsheet? So many questions in this story. However I agree with the above, just dispose of the cat (with or without the bedsheet). If you advertise it people will have to come and identify it, and other messiness. As a cat owner (ie, one who is owned by cats) I know you have to be philosophical about cats going missing, this one went missing. And suggest to your sister that the doty dog gets some training.

    This is what I would do.

    OP, Give the cat a proper burial in a river or something and speak no more about this to anyone. I wouldn't even have posted it on here. The dog won't tell anyone.

    What's the alternative? Messy with the same outcome for the cat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,950 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    The cat is immaculately clean and has a collar (no bell or name tag). The cat would frequent have toileted in my garden at the back in the shrubs. But it never bothered me.

    Cats tend not to go about covered in shıt. They're self-cleaning.

    Assuming this thread isn't a wind up, I wouldn't go looking for owner or advertising as you will have a queue of people who may or may not be the owners perhaps demanding some form of compensation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Meeoow


    corsav6 wrote: »
    I agree with the above advice, dump the cat and say nothing, cats are notorious for going missing.
    Also avoid leaving food out in the garden as you'll attract rodents.
    Especially now there is one less cat to kill them.
    Don't be an ass, somebody is going to be looking for this cat.
    I really hope you didn't let the dog kill the cat cause it was pissing in your garden OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,156 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Take the cat to a vet to see if they have a microchip regards contacting the owners. If nothing else, they will be best place to advise on what to do regards the cat's body. As the owner of a cat, I'd be very upset if she disappeared and it would always be on my mind. At least the owner would know by doing the decent thing. Yes it may be awkward, but it's not going to be a happy ray of sunshine conversation anyway; don't be a coward about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭ronivek


    Am I the only one a little shocked at all the people posting on an Animals & Pet Issues forum who don't seem to give a rats ass about the owner of the cat? Am I missing something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,071 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    ronivek wrote: »
    Am I the only one a little shocked at all the people posting on an Animals & Pet Issues forum who don't seem to give a rats ass about the owner of the cat? Am I missing something?

    It’s because the OP is a pisstake


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    If the dog was in a secure garden on your property and a cat wanders in and gets caught by the dog, it’s a non issue.

    Maybe contact the owner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭0xzmro3n4y7lb5


    Just try to locate the owner.

    I have an additional needs adult daughter and she has a cat.

    The not knowing would cause extreme distress and I'd be fierce upset too.

    We had a cat 20 years ago that got out and was never seen again and we still talk of him.

    The cat we have now has really helped my daughter, well the whole family, during the pandemic.

    Don't leave people not knowing in someways it's more painful.

    I wouldn't be mad if you told me and it's obvious you took care of the cat wrapping the cat up and that.


  • Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Snakes. Nature's snakes
    Sam Hain wrote: »
    Aren't snakes, nature's snakes?

    One of you has kids. Those kids have 'made you' watch the penguins movie. A quite frankly, very humorous movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    I am a bit surprised no one has wondered about how a dog like that can be trusted around anyone or anything if it cannot be controlled. Doesn't matter if on your own property or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Jayesdiem


    I’m not sure what you do but what I do know is that if you decide you are going to wash your hands of it, do exactly that and don’t listen to those saying to bring it to the vet in that case. That is neither on one side of the fence or the other and if you take that option you may as well come fully clean because the chip will identify the animal. Either come clean or don’t, but the latter option is not compatible with presenting at the vet’s surgery.

    Edit: compatible


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  • Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ludo wrote: »
    I am a bit surprised no one has wondered about how a dog like that can be trusted around anyone or anything if it cannot be controlled. Doesn't matter if on your own property or not.

    Perhaps you have never watched Tom and Jerry? Dogs chase cats. If trained and / or raised around cats then usually they don't but that depends on the owner.

    My dog, long dead, never chased any other animal other than to play. Then he saw a duck. It did not end well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    Perhaps you have never watched Tom and Jerry? Dogs chase cats. If trained and / or raised around cats then usually they don't but that depends on the owner.

    My dog, long dead, never chased any other animal other than to play. Then he saw a duck. It did not end well.

    Yeah, and cats kill mice, etc. The difference is a cat (or a small dog) isnt going to seriously hurt or kill a child or even an adult. A dog like that who can't ce controlled is an entirely different propect. And using a cartoon as a defence...that was actually funny in fariness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Ludo wrote: »
    I am a bit surprised no one has wondered about how a dog like that can be trusted around anyone or anything if it cannot be controlled. Doesn't matter if on your own property or not.

    Do you think cats should be controlled? They are out killing wildlife daily but that’s out of sight, out of mind for the owners.

    These are the risks cat owners take when letting there pet wander.

    We let our indoor dogs into the back garden to relieve themselves and run around.

    Every day the neighbours cat turns up wandering through our garden and then sites on the wall winding up the dogs who are going spastic.

    I know one day that cat will make the wrong call and it won’t end well for the cat. I know I won’t feel guilty if/when it happens.


  • Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Presuming the op is genuine, put the cat in the bin and forget about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    Eh, can I get a loan of that dog? I could do with a new cat on the street being disappeared


    <mod: red carded>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    Do you think cats should be controlled? They are out killing wildlife daily but that’s out of sight, out of mind for the owners.

    These are the risks cat owners take when letting there pet wander.

    We let our indoor dogs into the back garden to relieve themselves and run around.

    Every day the neighbours cat turns up wandering through our garden and then sites on the wall winding up the dogs who are going spastic.

    I know one day that cat will make the wrong call and it won’t end well for the cat. I know I won’t feel guilty if/when it happens.

    Yep...I get all that and sometimes indeed **** happens and cats are feckers for carrying on like that. No bother with them getting hurt. Nature and all that.
    Still though, worth at least THINKING about this dog and any potential issue. I was just surprised no-one even mentioned it at all. Anyway...I've raised my points and am out. I don't want to turn this into a dog bashing or cat bashing discussion.


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    No animals were harmed in the making of this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭AryaStark


    Ludo wrote: »
    I am a bit surprised no one has wondered about how a dog like that can be trusted around anyone or anything if it cannot be controlled. Doesn't matter if on your own property or not.

    Because dogs chasing cats in natural... and they chase them because they see them as prey, not for a kiss!!!

    Dogs can be trained but with a big prey dog you always have to be careful and responsible. This dog was in the owners garden and secure by the sounds of it. This means that it is not the dogs fault and it did nothing wrong.

    Of course it matters that it was on the personal property.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭Yester


    You could leave it out for the seagulls. Circle of life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭AryaStark


    Ludo wrote: »
    Yeah, and cats kill mice, etc. The difference is a cat (or a small dog) isnt going to seriously hurt or kill a child or even an adult. A dog like that who can't ce controlled is an entirely different propect. And using a cartoon as a defence...that was actually funny in fariness.

    A child is not a cat! These replies where people go mad with 'think of the children' really annoy me.

    I've a husky and a rottweiler cross... neither could be trusted with a cat or any small animals. They are trusted around humans! Never alone with kids cause I don't think any dog should be alone with children (children cannot be trusted!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,601 ✭✭✭Micky 32



    I know one day that cat will make the wrong call and it won’t end well for the cat. I know I won’t feel guilty if/when it happens.

    I wonder what’s the position with the law if say i wanted to protect my cat from being attacked by neighbours dogs? Am i entitled to shoot the dogs dead with my legally held shotgun to save my cats life?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    Two posters in this thread have been red-carded for trolling. This is not a joke. Moderate your responses please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,986 ✭✭✭ambro25


    Some dog breeds you can't train the prey instinct out of, particularly terriers, especially the hardier breeds designed to burrow after foxes, badgers and such.

    We've tried professionals early on with ours (it was a rescue, and very damaged goods), and they all gave up. I wasn't surprised, after owning dogs of similar profile (wire dachs) years ago.

    After 11 years, ours can be trusted with people, there's never been any inkling of aggressivity towards man, woman or child, ever. But it will still go after anything non-human. And I mean anything, large or small, land-air-sea, cute or ugly. Spiders, bees, wasps, hedgehogs, kittens, cats, small birds, goats, cows, kids, geese, crabs, rats, mice, etc, etc: if it moves and it breathes, it's prey, end of.

    So he's never off the leash, unless fenced-in within our property.

    We're 1 (feral) kitten down so far this year. Died of fright, it looked like. Poor mite, was humanely buried.

    The 2nd (feral) kitten only this past weekend had a lucky escape, this time I managed to catch the dog in time. But then the little b*%# furball ran into the house while I was busy securing the dog, with no end of nooks and cranies to hide in, and it took us 2 hours non-stop to catch and release it (safely).

    Some you win, some you lose, and nature be nature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭AryaStark


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    I wonder what’s the position with the law if say i wanted to protect my cat from being attacked by neighbours dogs? Am i entitled to shoot the dogs dead with my legally held shotgun to save my cats life?

    But the cat is entering the dog owners property... The law says you cannot shoot dead a dog or a cat!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Two posters in this thread have been red-carded for trolling. This is not a joke. Moderate your responses please.

    In fairness, the OP should be red-carded for trolling.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    my parents have a springer spaniel bitch.

    she is lightning fast and being a hunting dog breed has a strong prey instinct and has killed at least a couple of cats who made the ill-advised decision to come into the (largish) garden when the dog was in the vicinity.

    they didn't have any phone number/other id engraved and were just buried in the garden - move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    I'm currently minding my sister's dog. A rottweiler. She's a dote. I was letting her out to do a toilet.

    After I released her, I noticed her charging for a cat I didn't realise was out


    Never mind dogs that have not been trained or you cannot control.

    At least your username checks out.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Jayesdiem


    In fairness, the OP should be red-carded for trolling.

    Why is this being said on here? The scenario being described seems a fairly plausible one to me: dog hates cat so attacks cat and cat dies. It’s not outlandish. If they were trolling, wouldn’t they at least try to be a bit more provocative and sensationalist? Seriously its like someone being accused of trolling because they describe being victim to a hit and run car accident or a burglary or a flaming bag of sh1t on the doorstep prank or whatever you want to suggest. Not THAT common but it happens frequently enough not to be unusual. Maybe you are trolling?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Shelli2


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    I wonder what’s the position with the law if say i wanted to protect my cat from being attacked by neighbours dogs? Am i entitled to shoot the dogs dead with my legally held shotgun to save my cats life?

    If the dog enters your property then yes.
    If the cat goes into the neighbors garden, then no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭ezstreet5


    Whether you love or hate cats, you would need to have respect for your neighbour who might have considered that cat to be a treasured pet. Once, I found a cat lying on the footpath on a cold February morning. It had been hit by a car, and since it was bin day, I tossed it in, and then went on to work. A few days later, I spotted the poster for the missing cat. I reluctantly made the call, and was thanked, and when I was asked where the cat was, I merely stated that it was disposed of. But at least the owner knows and can have a bit of peace. I don't think you need to disclose the exact nature of the misadventure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭em_cat


    I always had indoor cats, one would potter in the garden until a bird flew near and he’d run inside, so can’t comment. I think a humane burial and move on.


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