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Calls for Minister for Children Roderic O'Gorman to resign..

  • 01-07-2020 4:59pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,691 ✭✭✭✭


    His links to Peter Thatchell seems to be raising a few eyebrows especially from the one and only Gemma, https://www.bitchute.com/video/LVSj0LNd83xR/
    I see a lot of people giving out about Roderics new roll across different media not just Gemma.
    I don't know anything about the chap but from his association with Thatchell it would make you wonder if he's been given the right Ministry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Why .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Gatling wrote: »
    Why .

    Thatchell advocated for lowering the age of consent to 14 years old, not only in a 'Romeo and Juliet' laws scenario which would only make it legal if the older partner was under 18/21 etc... he just wants it opened up so that any dirty old pervert can pray on 14 year olds.
    An age of consent of 14 might be more realistic and reasonable than 16. If sex at 14 is consensual, and no one is hurt or complains, is criminalisation in the public interest? Is it in the 14-year-old's interest? It is fair?
    It reinforces the idea that young people under the age of 16 do not have the right to control their own bodies.
    They don't, they're children....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,691 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Gatling wrote: »
    Why .

    He's a way with words, it's not someone the minister for children should be associating with or have associated with in the past.

    quote-the-positive-nature-of-some-child-adult-sexual-relationships-is-not-confined-to-non-peter-tatchell-73-42-37.jpg

    We had all this with Norris before and his Isralie friend, we don't need a minster with similar baggage again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Thatchell advocated for lowering the age of consent to 14 years old, not only in a 'Romeo and Juliet' laws scenario which would only make it legal if the older partner was under 18/21 etc... he just wants it opened up so that any dirty old pervert can pray on 14 year olds.

    Not true though it was supposed to allow 14 -17 (maximum three year gap ) without facing prosecution which there is likely tens of thousands of 14 year olds sexually active ,other countries looked at the idea too it wasn't a case of anyone could just sleep with someone 14 years and up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    how serious/tenuous are these links between Roderick O'Gorman and Peter Thatchell?

    Peter Thatchell didn't say anything in that quote that beloved Senator David Norris hasn't intimated in the past btw.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Gatling wrote: »
    Not true though it was supposed to allow 14 -17 (maximum three year gap ) without facing prosecution which there is likely tens of thousands of 14 year olds sexually active ,other countries looked at the idea too it wasn't a case of anyone could just sleep with someone 14 years and up

    that is not how any of the media read on it. Romeo and Juliet laws (that kind of case you illustrate) are definitely required. Almost every publication on the man paints it as a straight up drop to 14 , however another poster above has a more worrying quote from this man.

    Romeo and Juliet laws are fine, paedophile apologism is barbaric.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    how serious/tenuous are these links between Roderick O'Gorman and Peter Thatchell?

    Peter Thatchell didn't say anything in that quote that beloved Senator David Norris hasn't intimated in the past btw.

    which was also incredibly wrong and rightly received condemnation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    He's a way with words, it's not someone the minister for children should be associating with or have associated with in the past.

    quote-the-positive-nature-of-some-child-adult-sexual-relationships-is-not-confined-to-non-peter-tatchell-73-42-37.jpg

    We had all this with Norris before and his Isralie friend, we don't need a minster with similar baggage again.

    That fella needs watching, thats not a normal way of thinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,358 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    That fella needs watching, thats not a normal way of thinking.

    Yes.

    Whatever about 14...9 is young. End of...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    that is not how any of the media read on it. Romeo and Juliet laws (that kind of case you illustrate) are definitely required.

    He litterally said the same thing .


    I'd wonder if there is a full varifed interview which claims the above or was it posted on a quote maker page and posted on social media?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Thatchell advocated for lowering the age of consent to 14 years old, not only in a 'Romeo and Juliet' laws scenario which would only make it legal if the older partner was under 18/21 etc... he just wants it opened up so that any dirty old pervert can pray on 14 year olds.



    They don't, they're children....

    And what exactly is the connection with O'Gorman?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    And what exactly is the connection with O'Gorman?

    They were in a picture together at a pride march.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Calls from GOD....er I wouldn't pay much heed to that eejit...she spends most of her day screaming into the void about anyone and everyone. So it's really "call" from one looper

    What are the links? All I can see is a picture of them at a pride march...who cares! Tenuous to say the least


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    GarIT wrote: »
    They stood beside each other in a picture.

    well if that's the extent of it, this is a non story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    GarIT wrote: »
    They were in a picture together at a pride march.
    Oh the scandal of it all!!!!
    Christ if that's the best Genmski can do.... laughable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    how serious/tenuous are these links between Roderick O'Gorman and Peter Thatchell?

    Peter Thatchell didn't say anything in that quote that beloved Senator David Norris hasn't intimated in the past btw.

    The difference is that Norris himself made remarks and proffered his opinion. This seems more Salem material.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    If he was a ff or fg member the loudest minority would be on here screaming for his resignation.

    He is a member of the greens so instead an excuse will be looked for instead.

    For shame guys


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    well if that's the extent of it, this is a non story.

    But the several years old photo was dug up and commented on by John Connors (the one from Cardboard Gangsters, not the one from The Terminator)
    The real question is who's feeding him this stuff. I doubt he's trawling politician's old Twitter photos at random.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    If he was a ff or fg member the loudest minority would be on here screaming for his resignation.

    He is a member of the greens so instead an excuse will be looked for instead.

    For shame guys
    Complete and utter BS.
    Who are this loudest minority?

    Id say tatchell has been pictured with plenty of mainstream politicians, especially in the UK, zero controversy this is a reach even for GOD. Embarrassing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    But the several years old photo was dug up and commented on by John Connors (the one from Cardboard Gangsters, not the one from The Terminator)
    The real question is who's feeding him this stuff. I doubt he's trawling politician's old Twitter photos at random.

    There has to be something wrong with anyone who listens to anything he says


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    walshb wrote: »
    Yes.

    Whatever about 14...9 is young. End of...
    Tell that to the wife of a particular prophet :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Gatling wrote: »
    He litterally said the same thing .


    I'd wonder if there is a full varifed interview which claims the above or was it posted on a quote maker page and posted on social media?

    its from a 1997 guardian article
    4uHkc3A.jpg

    the tweet in question is not just 'appeared together' he calls him a legendary lgbt activist and names him, not like its a 'random' photo
    https://twitter.com/greenparty_ie/status/1013045330223489024?s=20


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    This thread doesn't half stink of homophobia... Source for "call" is Gemma O'Doherty. Similar to all the stuff about Katherine Zappone plotting bookman sacrifice. So no, there isn't really any demand for him to resign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    its from a 1997 guardian article
    4uHkc3A.jpg

    the tweet in question is not just 'appeared together' he calls him a legendary lgbt activist and names him, not like its a 'random' photo
    https://twitter.com/greenparty_ie/status/1013045330223489024?s=20
    Well he is a well known LGBT activist, it doesn't mean that TD agrees with everything he says ffs, that was from 20+ years ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    its from a 1997 guardian article
    4uHkc3A.jpg

    the tweet in question is not just 'appeared together' he calls him a legendary lgbt activist and names him, not like its a 'random' photo
    https://twitter.com/greenparty_ie/status/1013045330223489024?s=20

    Good God, that's an awful lot more than a random photo.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Tatchell is also a member of the Green Party which might be another reason for the photo op.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    This thread doesn't half stink of homophobia... Source for "call" is Gemma O'Doherty. Similar to all the stuff about Katherine Zappone plotting bookman sacrifice. So no, there isn't really any demand for him to resign.

    are you conflating paedophelia with the lgbt community ? thats not right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Tatchell is also a member of the Green Party which might be another reason for the photo op.

    so the Green Party are harbouring a known paedophile sympathiser.... thats much better... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Good God, that's an awful lot more than a random photo.
    What are you on about?
    Did Roderic o Gorman write that letter 23+ years ago...no... bizarre faux outrage


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Douple post apologies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,603 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    It seems clear Thatchwell is a creep and shouldn't be allowed be a TD. Thankfully he isnt a TD.


    Whats the whining about again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w



    Romeo and Juliet laws are fine

    No its not...it provides unequal punishment based on gender


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    are you conflating paedophelia with the lgbt community ? thats not right.

    I'm referring to the fact that Gemma O'Doherty and her fanbase are targeting a gay minister within days of entering the role when he's done nothing wrong and has not advocated anything. The exact same bs occurred with Zappone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    gmisk wrote: »
    What are you on about?
    Did Roderic o Gorman write that letter 23+ years ago...no... bizarre faux outrage

    Did you actually read what the current Minister for Children wrote under the photo when he posted it on Twitter?

    If that doesn't give you cause for concern then you need to have a word with yourself lad.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Did you actually read what the current Minister for Children wrote under the photo when he posted it on Twitter?

    If that doesn't give you cause for concern then you need to have a word with yourself lad.
    He referred to tatchell as a legendary LGBT activist which he is....he did not say he agreed with every statement or a letter he wrote 23 years ago ffs.
    You need to catch yourself on not me.
    Your views align with a homophobic looper like GOD...lol


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    so the Green Party are harbouring a known paedophile sympathiser.... thats much better... :rolleyes:

    That’s some reach now in fairness


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    Well here's Tatchell advising several Irish politicians and activists on how to bludgeon their agenda into schools:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/w0dFEi3mgMRq/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    I'm referring to the fact that Gemma O'Doherty and her fanbase are targeting a gay minister within days of entering the role when he's done nothing wrong and has not advocated anything. The exact same bs occurred with Zappone.

    Gemma has targeted multiple Green Party reps , gay or straight, I don't think it has much to do with it, but since its Gemma and nothing has to make sense, ill agree that it certainly could.

    However aside from lumping Gemma into it, the minister for children certainly is keeping poor company considering this is hardly something new , thatchell has been banging on about this for 27 years. Any minister for children who posts in admiration of a paedophile sympathiser would get the same distaste from me and most other people in this thread.


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    For the record, Thatchell only ever did call for Romeo and Juliet laws. Anything outside of the 3 years he favoured prosecution.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1376619/Make-age-of-consent-lower-urges-Tatchell.html#:~:text=Peter%20Tatchell%2C%20of%20the%20pressure,three%20years%20difference%20in%20age.

    He also adequately addressed his letter in 1997. So it's not really the most exciting.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6374467/Peter-Tatchell-forced-deny-advocating-paedophilia-1997-letter.html
    Gemma has targeted multiple Green Party reps , gay or straight, I don't think it has much to do with it, but since its Gemma and nothing has to make sense, ill agree that it certainly could.

    However aside from lumping Gemma into it, the minister for children certainly is keeping poor company considering this is hardly something new , thatchell has been banging on about this for 27 years. Any minister for children who posts in admiration of a paedophile sympathiser would get the same distaste from me and most other people in this thread.

    Nah, Gemma has a particular about people who don't look Irish and gay people. Also neither Thatchell or Roderic favour enabling paedophilia. So I'd say yes the primary motivation of this thread is homophobia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    For the record he said his friends have sex with 9yr olds. That's the issue, one of his friends is now minister for children.
    There's no rowing back from a statement like that, there is no defense for such a person regardless of when he said it. Nobody should have friends like that and that especially goes for O'Gorman.


    Since when are they friends?


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    For the record he said his friends have sex with 9yr olds. That's the issue, one of his friends is now minister for children.
    There's no rowing back from a statement like that, there is no defense for such a person regardless of when he said it. Nobody should have friends like that and that especially goes for O'Gorman.
    He actually referred to his friends as the ones who had sex with older men so they were the minors. At incredibly young ages which is entirely messed up. He didn't advocate for it or favour making it legal. He just said that they there weren't damaged by it, which I'd be inclined to say is probably wrong.

    So he doesn't have "friends like that" as you've claimed and nor did he claim to. It's a bit telling that you had to twist it into his friends being the adults. I'll happily disagree with him on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    gmisk wrote: »
    He referred to tatchell as a legendary LGBT activist which he is....he did not say he agreed with every statement or a letter he wrote 23 years ago ffs.
    You need to catch yourself on not me.
    Your views align with a homophobic looper like GOD...lol

    It was poor judgement though referring to Tatchell as legendary considering the view he has about sex between adults and children.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    ....
    So I'd say yes the primary motivation of this thread is homophobia.
    Similar to the poor retort of: if anyone dares to question Direct Provision or non-EU migration, then they are racist.
    This is how attempts are made to shut down discussion on specific topics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


    how serious/tenuous are these links between Roderick O'Gorman and Peter Thatchell?

    Peter Thatchell didn't say anything in that quote that beloved Senator David Norris hasn't intimated in the past btw.

    https://twitter.com/greenparty_ie/status/1013045330223489024


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    And Thatchell explicitly said he doesn't advocate paedophilia. The remarks aren't hugely different to what Dawkins said a few years back. They're incredibly stupid remarks but neither were advocates of it.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2416953/Richard-Dawkins-controversial-mild-paedophilia-comments.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭BoroMan32


    Judging by this video, this Tatchell bloke is a sicko.

    https://twitter.com/jenny87797866/status/1278155241557577735


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    How about a Children's Minister that actually actually has children.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    BoroMan32 wrote: »
    Judging by this video, this Tatchell bloke is a sicko.

    https://twitter.com/jenny87797866/status/1278155241557577735

    Can you explain what exactly is sick about it? He wants children to have sex education that includes lgbt issues, that's a pretty reasonable expectation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Warbeastrior


    Sickening comment from Thatchell.

    O'Gorman should have to address his relationship with this fella and if he doesn't cut all ties then he should be made to resign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    lol, Shane Ross, Catherine Zappone and others were ministers for 4 months when they failed at reelection and a newly appointed minister cannot last a week if he goes

    That's a special kind of failure :pac:


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