Glasgow incident - mod warning in OP

ChelseaRentBoy

Reports of multiple people stabbed at a hotel in Glasgow city centre. At least 6 injured according to early reports. Very sad that there are people out there with so much hate inside them.

https://news.sky.com/story/armed-police-deployed-after-several-injured-in-serious-incident-in-glasgow-12015385

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Beasty wrote: »

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ACitizenErased

BBC reporting 3 dead and a police officer stabbed

Kivaro

It is confirmed (BBC and Sky News) that 3 are dead, and the assailant shot dead, and a police officer has been stabbed.

With all the recent rhetoric focused on the police, and people recently holding up signs at marches saying that "White silence = violence", it does not surprise me that we are seeing an increase in these types of attacks.

Abel Ruiz

Kivaro wrote: »

With all the recent rhetoric focused on the police, and people recently holding up signs at marches saying that "White silence = violence", it does not surprise me that we are seeing an increase in these types of attacks.

Hold on. Not many details are released yet. Lets wait and see what group is to blame, because no matter what, it'll be a whole group of people to blame.

It couldnt be just a mad person in a homeless shelter(hotel) going bananas and losing their head.

Harry Palmr

Abel Ruiz wrote: »

Hold on. Not many details are released yet. Lets wait and see what group is to blame, because no matter what, it'll be a whole group of people to blame.

It couldnt be just a mad person in a homeless shelter(hotel) going bananas and losing their head.

You new here? First thing to do is blame "otherness" on this forum

major bill

Abel Ruiz wrote: »

Hold on. Not many details are released yet. Lets wait and see what group is to blame, because no matter what, it'll be a whole group of people to blame.

It couldnt be just a mad person in a homeless shelter(hotel) going bananas and losing their head.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18401817.scottish-charities-anger-glasgow-refugees-hotel-move/

Might have some relevance! Sad all round but think could be just a person losing the plot

ChelseaRentBoy

Abel Ruiz wrote: »

Hold on. Not many details are released yet. Lets wait and see what group is to blame, because no matter what, it'll be a whole group of people to blame.

It couldnt be just a mad person in a homeless shelter(hotel) going bananas and losing their head.

Hatred is to blame. Be it on the left or the right, the middle, black or white, brown or blue.

There's too much hate.

Deebles McBeebles

Abel Ruiz wrote: »

Hold on. Not many details are released yet. Lets wait and see what group is to blame, because no matter what, it'll be a whole group of people to blame.

It couldnt be just a mad person in a homeless shelter(hotel) going bananas and losing their head.

That's CA. See new thread, wait for 2 posts, BLM are to blame. Its amazing.

Hector Savage

ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »

Reports of multiple people stabbed at a hotel in Glasgow city centre. At least 6 injured according to early reports. Very sad that there are people out there with so much hate inside them.

https://news.sky.com/story/armed-police-deployed-after-several-injured-in-serious-incident-in-glasgow-12015385

Indeed it is sad that there is so much hate in anyone, but remember if the attacker is a right leaning white male, then yes it's hateful bigotry that caused it and we should all be very very angry and not tolerate this.

If it's a certain religious ideology Is**m, then it's a misunderstanding and not hateful at all, he must have mental health issues.

We won't get mad, just sing "dont look back in anger" and have us all some hippy love.

SchrodingersCat

Kivaro wrote: »

With all the recent rhetoric focused on the police, and people recently holding up signs at marches saying that "White silence = violence", it does not surprise me that we are seeing an increase in these types of attacks.

You would do well to follow the last sentence of Nicola Sturgeons tweet on the matter before attempting to push whatever agenda you are using this sad situation for.

Tchaikovsky

Hector Savage wrote: »

Indeed it is sad that there is so much hate in anyone, but remember if the attacker is a right leaning white male, then yes it's hateful bigotry that caused it and we should all be very very angry and not tolerate this.

If it's a certain religious ideology Is**m, then it's a misunderstanding and not hateful at all, he must have mental health issues.

We won't get mad, just sing "dont look back in anger" and have us all some hippy love.

Well it's actually the opposite in reality, outside the right-wing social media bubble.

splashuum

It appears a number of people have lost there lives in Glasgow. If rumours are true it will be the second terror related attack within a week in the UK. There was very little coverage of the Reading incident IMO. Will this story follow a similar path?

Hector Savage

splashuum wrote: »

It appears a number of people have lost there lives in Glasgow. If rumours are true it will be the second terror related attack within a week in the UK. There was very little coverage of the Reading incident IMO. Will this story follow a similar path?

Depends who is the perpatrator whether it gets much coverage or not - afterwards that is...

Kermit.de.frog

The sad fact is the frequency of these has increased in recent years to the point the media and public interest has warned. It's become just another risk.

10 years a go would have headline news for days.

Class MayDresser

Hope the perpetrator is dead, preferably shot dead by armed response.

Class MayDresser

Class MayDresser wrote: »

Hope the perpetrator is dead, preferably shot dead by armed response.

Too good for him.

Beechwoodspark

Have friends in Glasgow and this is truely awful news it’s a lovely city that has a lot of Irish connections.

Years ago went to a Celtic match it was great and we had a nice meal after wards in the city centre.

shaveAbullock

No confirmation of lives lost yet?

igCorcaigh

shaveAbullock wrote: »

No confirmation of lives lost yet?

3 dead plus the attacker.

weldoninhio

Class MayDresser wrote: »

Hope the perpetrator is dead, preferably shot dead by armed response.

Shot four times, died on the way to hospital.

Police officer he stabbed is currently in theatre.

biko

https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/26/glasgow-streets-locked-police-officer-stabbed-12907381/

3 dead and an injured officer.

Chalk McHugh

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Have friends in Glasgow and this is truely awful news it’s a lovely city that has a lot of Irish connections.

Years ago went to a Celtic match it was great and we had a nice meal after wards in the city centre.

One of the most dangerous cities in western Europe not too long ago. Where matches between Celtic and Rangers would always see numerous badly injured men end up in hospital. That was a given for the police and paramedics. And many fatalities. Glasgow might be some things but i wouldn't class it a lovely city.

Beasty

Threads merged

afro man

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

One of the most dangerous cities in western Europe not too long ago. Where matches between Celtic and Rangers would always see numerous badly injured men end up in hospital. That was a given for the police and paramedics. And many fatalities. Glasgow might be some things but i wouldn't class it a lovely city.

Chalk ,, when was the last time you were in Glasgow ,, cracking city was there last year no bother at all and at Celtic v Rangers as well.
many fatalities can you back up with facts

How many Murders in Dublin the last few years / London ETC

Jeez you lot argue just for the sake of arguing.

RIP to those who died.

Here’s hoping that the police officer makes a full recovery. With all the rhetoric lately, this officer (and many others like them), went towards danger so that danger didn’t come to us.

Beasty

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Chalk McHugh

afro man wrote: »

Chalk ,, when was the last time you were in Glasgow ,, cracking city was there last year no bother at all and at Celtic v Rangers as well.
many fatalities can you back up with facts

How many Murders in Dublin the last few years / London ETC

I've never been to Glasgow. Have been thinking of visiting Glasgow and Edinburgh for a few years. Maybe catch a Celtic game. I've friends that regularly go over to games.

I'm sure there's nice parts to it but all i'm saying is it has always had a reputation as a fairly tough city. Edinburgh is supposed to be a beautiful city to walk around.

Birneybau

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

I've never been to Glasgow. Have been thinking of visiting Glasgow and Edinburgh for a few years. Maybe catch a Celtic game. I've friends that regularly go over to games.

I'm sure there's nice parts to it but all i'm saying is it has always had a reputation as a fairly tough city. Edinburgh is supposed to be a beautiful city to walk around.

Until you walk into Leith as myself and pals did once.

I've been in both numerous times and generally lovely places, Glasgow a bit more of an edge. Bit as I said, Leith in Edinburgh ain't somewhere to go for a stroll.

Chalk McHugh

Birneybau wrote: »

Until you walk into Leith as myself and pals did once.

I've been in both numerous times and generally lovely places, Glasgow a bit more of an edge. Bit as I said, Leith in Edinburgh ain't somewhere to go for a stroll.

I've read Trainspotting where all the characters are Hibs fans and from Leith. Sounds like Darndale, Neilstown or any other working class Dublin area. Isn't it out a bit from the city centre? If i was in Edinburgh the only reason id probably be out that way is if i went to a Hibs game.

Coillte_Bhoy

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

I've never been to Glasgow. Have been thinking of visiting Glasgow and Edinburgh for a few years. Maybe catch a Celtic game. I've friends that regularly go over to games.

I'm sure there's nice parts to it but all i'm saying is it has always had a reputation as a fairly tough city. Edinburgh is supposed to be a beautiful city to walk around.

Glasgow like any city has its rough areas but you would have no reason to visit them The city centre is fine and there is always a visible police presence. I always feel much safer there than in Dublin

ShineOn7

I don't think we'll ever see a more insane year for world events in our lifetimes as 2020

And it's only June!

I think, unfortunately, there's far worse to come in the USA before the end of December

Chalk McHugh

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Glasgow like any city has its rough areas but you would have no reason to visit them The city centre is fine and there is always a visible police presence. I always feel much safer there than in Dublin

Well its really not like any other city is it. Except Belfast? Where half the city hates the other half. Not everyone obviously but lets be real there is massive hatred there. Thats the part of it i don't like. Where on Old Firm day nobody can wear colours around the city centre. No pubs will let you in. You could easily get a hiding or worse if your allegiance is revealed. And your accent could be a giveaway even without your colours on.

So on top of having tough areas like Dublin you have all the football/religious toxic bigotry in the city. A perfect recipe for a dangerous city.

When i visit i'll catch a Celtic game v any team bar Rangers. Too much hatred there for me.

bob mcbob

Birneybau wrote: »

Until you walk into Leith as myself and pals did once.

I've been in both numerous times and generally lovely places, Glasgow a bit more of an edge. Bit as I said, Leith in Edinburgh ain't somewhere to go for a stroll.

This must have been a while ago - it is now a trendy part of Edinburgh with 2 Michelin start restaurants and lots of good pubs / restaurants.

I was down there a few times during Trainspotting (80's) days and yes it was scary. There are a few of those characters still around but not too many.

Going back even further (70's) and it was a busy port so you can imagine what it was like. There is even a famous story about a pub that had a puma in a cage. It escaped one night and attacked some of the customers.

Macytoby

Used to stay in CitizenM in Hope St, 5 minutes from where the stabbing happened. Shocking stuff!

Nermal

BarnardsLoop wrote: »

Can you blame them for saying that?

Yes. I think people who chant that are sick, to be honest. Pathetic whinging about being 'kettled' doesn't change that.

If you don't feel the slightest embarrassment at defending that chant when it's juxtaposed with a story of police heroism in the face of a knife-wielding maniac... we don't really have anything to discuss.

Working class heroes

Sorry to disappoint you all but it has been confirmed it was not a terrorist incident.
Back in your boxes.

Slowyourrole

Is this the right thread for the Glasgow incident?

Being reported on LBC the premises was being used to house homeless and asylum seekers through Covid. There has been previous reporting that the conditions for residents were poor. Although they don't seem clear if it was the same premises. Be surprised if this was terrorism or mental health.

Varik

Seeing the police officer is critical but stable now and still only death is the attacker.

Beasty

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About as many again deleted, and the following are now threadbanned:

Working Class Heroes
StackSteevens
stinkypinky
BarnardsLoop
Danzy

More will follow if you keep this sort of stuff up

Now back on topic

biko

Witness

https://twitter.com/____jokerrr/status/1276529222467686401

NotMOL

Working class heroes wrote: »

Sorry to disappoint you all but it has been confirmed it was not a terrorist incident.
Back in your boxes.

How can it be 'confirmed' so fast?

With the Reading attack last week it was initially labeled as not a terrorist attack only for it to be changed to a terrorist attack the following day

Bonniedog

I think can you can read between the lines regarding the background of the person responsible.

4068ac1elhodqr

Maybe not a 'T' incident (so far), but given it's location and building's usage:

"The incident happened in the stairwell of the Park Inn Hotel on West George Street in the centre of Glasgow at about 13:00
The hotel has been housing asylum seekers during the coronavirus pandemic"

A cultural (i.e. conflict of cultures) factor could certainly be at play here, time well tell.

Gruffalux

biko wrote: »

Witness

https://twitter.com/____jokerrr/status/1276529222467686401

Very sad. Maintenance guy and receptionist it sounds like. And some others out on the street? The guy speaking must be traumatised. Absolutely horrible thing to happen to those poor people.

Beasty

Bonniedog wrote: »

I think can you can read between the lines regarding the background of the person responsible.

Alma Mango Acne wrote: »

Maybe not a 'T' incident (so far), but given it's location and building's usage:

"The incident happened in the stairwell of the Park Inn Hotel on West George Street in the centre of Glasgow at about 13:00
The hotel has been housing asylum seekers during the coronavirus pandemic"

A cultural (i.e. conflict of cultures) factor could certainly be at play here, time well tell.

Threadbanned

Harry Palmr

So no one dead bar the assailant and one cop plus 5 others injured, not at all like the headline then.

Quell surprise. Be great if people were forced to submit "breaking news" to inspection allowing a few facts to become known before it's opened to comments.

Coillte_Bhoy

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

One of the most dangerous cities in western Europe not too long ago. Where matches between Celtic and Rangers would always see numerous badly injured men end up in hospital. That was a given for the police and paramedics. And many fatalities. Glasgow might be some things but i wouldn't class it a lovely city.

I thought you'd never been? Sorry but you are taking nonsense, many fatalities on the day of derby games? Come on then link us up. Im not denying there can be issues on these days but you are juts completely blown it out of all proportion

Chalk McHugh

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

I thought you'd never been? Sorry but you are taking nonsense, many fatalities on the day of derby games? Come on then link us up. Im not denying there can be issues on these days but you are juts completely blown it out of all proportion

Do i have to have been there to know about the place? I haven't been to Ciudad Juarez either but i know its a bit ropey to say the least. Thats nonsense. And i know for a fact that quite a few how died on the day of Old Firm matches as i read about it years ago. I'm not going looking for it you can look yourself.

Coillte_Bhoy

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Well its really not like any other city is it. Except Belfast? Where half the city hates the other half. Not everyone obviously but lets be real there is massive hatred there. Thats the part of it i don't like. Where on Old Firm day nobody can wear colours around the city centre. No pubs will let you in. You could easily get a hiding or worse if your allegiance is revealed. And your accent could be a giveaway even without your colours on.

So on top of having tough areas like Dublin you have all the football/religious toxic bigotry in the city. A perfect recipe for a dangerous city.

When i visit i'll catch a Celtic game v any team bar Rangers. Too much hatred there for me.

Utter and total rubbish. Serioulsy where are you getting your inf from? And as for not being allowed into city centre pubs wearing colours, that is the case in many UK city centers and not just on days of high profile matches either, and indeed in Dublin as well.

Chalk McHugh

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Utter and total rubbish. Serioulsy where are you getting your inf from? And as for not being allowed into city centre pubs wearing colours, that is the case in many UK city centers and not just on days of high profile matches either, and indeed in Dublin as well.

Ok man whatever you say. I dont agree. No bother.

DelaneyIn

Sky News reporter in Glasgow right now speculating on the poor living conditions asylum seekers have in the hotel they are staying in. And I quote; "they have limited wi fi."

The excuses are getting earlier and earlier.