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How many hours of your life have you got back since workign from home?

  • 26-06-2020 9:07am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭


    I just added up the time ive save since ive been working from home.
    After about 106 days.
    Each day there are. 1 hour getting washed and dressed for work. 2 hours commuting total. 1 hour finding somewhere to waste an hour at lunch time.

    Thats 4 hours per working day.

    320 hours for a 5 day week that I have had back for myself since I worked from home.
    Thats a lot of time. And I can feel it. Its great.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    2 hour commute (actually 20-30 more if I miss a train on the way home) saved but I definitely work an extra hour from home than I would in the office. Although in saying that I never really take a lunch break when in the office but now I'll get a half hour in my ramshackle home gym and a proper lunch so that kinda balances out.

    It feels like I've waaaaay more time with the family and yes OP, I agree, it does feel great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Cheeseplant


    I would say that I am a lot worse off time wise. I still attend work a few days a week and would go in most Saturday's to finish off tasks. Working from home is very stressful with a young family. The days I WFH, I'm at the computer about 8ish and I try to finish up about 2. My kid sits plays and watches TV for the morning. I spend the morning feeling like a bad parent as I'm not interacting with him and a bad worker as I can only really focus on sending out emails rather than any productive work. By the time he goes to bed (later than before COVID) at 930, I'm fit for nothing! I work longer days when I'm on-site but I'm trying to squeeze 5 days productivity into 3 days on-site and just easing my guilt with emails the rest of the time.
    One of the most stressful periods of my life I think.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    theteal wrote: »
    but I definitely work an extra hour from home than I would in the office.

    Why is that?

    I roll out of bed and switch the computer on to show i'm online, then get washed / dressed, make some coffee and eventually "start work".

    During the day in periods where i'm not working instead of pretending to work like you would in the office I can play computer games, do some small chores or start the dinner.

    I log off exactly at 5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 JosTep


    Lucky you and that's great :)

    I find myself working longer and harder, I live close to my office so my commute is nothing - managing a team that is remote has brought its challenges, throw in some kids, both my own and my teams, means we are all online at different times, and I am available to them whenever they need me- not that I mind because they are a good bunch of people who are doing more than their best..

    I do enjoy the challenge and I'm not complaining - but working from home in this environment is different to what it might be in pre covid times.

    I feel it too - I am happy that I'm seeing my kids grow up and am there for them whereas I wouldn't have had this opportunity previously but I don't have any extra time - just different times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭silent_spark


    Saving 4 hours of a daily commute. I’m also taking an actual full lunch hour, instead of my previous half hour at my desk. It’s pure magic.

    At the start of all this, I ended each work day with a 30-45 minute walk to clear my head, but that’s fallen by the wayside.

    Edit: We have no children, and this has a huge impact. I don’t know how working parents are coping with full time work, homeschooling and childcare.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    I found an astelia, I re designed my garden, learned how to catch a trout the old way.

    Realised that my interpretation of the left side of politics was a bit skewed as I thought the left was full of social justice warriors and the cringe fringe gowls you'd see causing Chaos and acting the clown on YouTube and actually they don't represent the left at all and are only an embarrassment and the left politicians have nothing to do with the nut job cluster fcks...

    I learned how to cut stone for dry stone walls, got into art and sculpture..

    So I would say I learned more by having time well spent.

    Saving time is good when you use it wisely, but useless if you're a lazy bstrd lying about doing SFA


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭5555555555


    2 hours a day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Cheeseplant


    Saving 4 hours of a daily commute. I’m also taking an actual full lunch hour, instead of my previous half hour at my desk. It’s pure magic.

    At the start of all this, I ended each work day with a 30-45 minute walk to clear my head, but that’s fallen by the wayside.

    Edit: We have no children, and this has a huge impact. I don’t know how working parents are coping with full time work, homeschooling and childcare.[/QUOTE]

    This is so true. We are all weathering the same storm but in very different boats. Both myself and my partner are involved in COVID work (not medical) and have found it a massive struggle to balance increasingly demanding jobs and childcare. We are thankful for our location, house, incomes that have made these things easier to manage, but it has definitely been a very stressful time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I would say that I am a lot worse off time wise. I still attend work a few days a week and would go in most Saturday's to finish off tasks. Working from home is very stressful with a young family. The days I WFH, I'm at the computer about 8ish and I try to finish up about 2. My kid sits plays and watches TV for the morning. I spend the morning feeling like a bad parent as I'm not interacting with him and a bad worker as I can only really focus on sending out emails rather than any productive work. By the time he goes to bed (later than before COVID) at 930, I'm fit for nothing! I work longer days when I'm on-site but I'm trying to squeeze 5 days productivity into 3 days on-site and just easing my guilt with emails the rest of the time.
    One of the most stressful periods of my life I think.

    Theres 7 and a half hours though between 2pm and 9:30pm .....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Cheeseplant


    listermint wrote: »
    Theres 7 and a half hours though between 2pm and 9:30pm .....

    There is, and I spend them with my child or doing chores around the house, while on conference calls. However, just because I try to finish up about 2, doesn't make the work go away. I invariably find myself worried about the tasks i'm not getting time to do rather than enjoying time with my child as I am not officially off, I am still scheduled to be working during that time. I'm sure most working parents during this can relate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    Why is that?

    I roll out of bed and switch the computer on to show i'm online, then get washed / dressed, make some coffee and eventually "start work".

    During the day in periods where i'm not working instead of pretending to work like you would in the office I can play computer games, do some small chores or start the dinner.

    I log off exactly at 5.

    My work is project based. The boss couldn't give a fiddlers about time logged as long as the work is getting done. If I was in the office thinking about what time I might leave, I'd be factoring in the effort of getting home as to whether I push on to the next bit of work or leave it to the next day. At home I find I just push on and get it done hence work a little longer. In saying that, being a Friday, I've a meeting at 15:00 - 15:30 and I'm playing in the paddling pool as soon as it ends!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    I would say that I am a lot worse off time wise. I still attend work a few days a week and would go in most Saturday's to finish off tasks. Working from home is very stressful with a young family. The days I WFH, I'm at the computer about 8ish and I try to finish up about 2. My kid sits plays and watches TV for the morning. I spend the morning feeling like a bad parent as I'm not interacting with him and a bad worker as I can only really focus on sending out emails rather than any productive work. By the time he goes to bed (later than before COVID) at 930, I'm fit for nothing! I work longer days when I'm on-site but I'm trying to squeeze 5 days productivity into 3 days on-site and just easing my guilt with emails the rest of the time.
    One of the most stressful periods of my life I think.

    Unfortunately you and many other parents are going through a really tough stressful period due to the schools closing and childcare options non existent. Just remember this is not what working from home is normally like.

    Most companies that operate working from home policies under normal circumstances will insist that there are no unsupervised children under age 12 in the house under normal circumstances. As its too difficult to be productive and mind children.

    Hopefully later in the summer into early autumn things will normalise and you may get a taste of what working from home is meant to be about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭screamer


    None really I work longer days to make up for the time I lose minding 3 kids on my own every day in addition to working full time. What I have gained is lack of pressure to get the kids ready and to drop off and race to work and work like a dog all day, skip lunch and then race out at home time to make it back before crèche closes. I don’t miss that mayhem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭LimeFruitGum


    I get 90m back a day from not having to drive. I login at 7.30 & done by 3.30, happy days:) My role is a functional support one and it’s not client facing, nor does it involve daily production or line management.
    I am 50% hours til next week and I was able to set my working time as Mon, Tues, half day Wednesday. I don’t have to mind kids, pets, or relatives so I know I have it handy. I am treating this like a mini sabbatical except I can’t travel. I have just been reading, going for walks, and doing a MOOC course


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I know one self-employed Luddite who's had his eyes opened to a saving of 25 hours of travel per week by technology and distancing. I can see him choosing to hang onto most of those gains.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    A lot of hours. A lot lost due to the commute. I wouldn’t like to work fullly from home tho. Half in the office and half at home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭LimeFruitGum


    I saved approximately €300/month on driving to work. I already WFH on Fridays, I would be fine with a 50-50 mix as well.
    My role was supposed to involve monthly European travel, but sure that’s out the window now :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,288 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    None. Some of my duties take longer to do remotely, and I also get more phone calls from people about issues which they would have solved themselves if they'd had a colleague in the next desk, so my overall job takes longer. Also, I got the extra work of setting people up to work from home, and will (eventually) have to move them back into the office too - on top of my regular job.

    And I use most of my commute time reading stuff on the bus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I know one self-employed Luddite who's had his eyes opened to a saving of 25 hours of travel per week by technology and distancing. I can see him choosing to hang onto most of those gains.

    Who in their right mind wouldn't!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 JosTep


    Who in their right mind wouldn't!

    That's two and half hours each way - wow

    It'd be as quick commuting from Limerick or Cork


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    I can work from home whenever I want but I actually prefer the office.
    I have a short commute, 20 minutes today, a more comfortable, spacious and effective set-up and I get more done.
    Also no chance am I covering the cost of heating and coffees. I noticed I flew through milk working from home during the lockdown.
    That said in most cases I agree, travelling an hour or more for office work that can be done from home is silly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Padraig1888


    I did for for two and a half months and am now back. Working from home is no much better and productive, everyone is a winner. Lad in my office had 90 minutes to get to work so three hours a day and was turned down to work from home. How much would his life be better without 15 hours a week in a car and he is well able to work from home too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,291 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Saving 3 Hours 35 minutes each day from commuting Mullingar to Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    I can work from home whenever I want but I actually prefer the office.
    I have a short commute, 20 minutes today, a more comfortable, spacious and effective set-up and I get more done.
    Also no chance am I covering the cost of heating and coffees. I noticed I flew through milk working from home during the lockdown.
    That said in most cases I agree, travelling an hour or more for office work that can be done from home is silly.

    You obviously don't mind fellow workers speaking crap all day long? I can get much more work done without that nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    You obviously don't mind fellow workers speaking crap all day long? I can get much more work done without that nonsense.


    I'm in an unusual situation. My own office for privacy. 2-3 people usually, 5 absolute max and rarely, in the rest of the office. Having worked in the cubicle style alternative I agree I'd trade that in a heartbeat for working from home.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I am saving about 4 hours a week commuting and about €70 per week on lunches, coffees and travel costs. Add in the work.from home tax deduction and I am up about about €330 per month. When you throw in no creche fees I am up well over a grand a month. Also getting more time with the kids. We have been out everyday to a park, beach or playground since lockdown began.

    When I am back in work I will get an hour in the evening with them :(

    Tired though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 JosTep


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    I am saving about 4 hours a week commuting and about €70 per week on lunches, coffees and travel costs. Add in the work.from home tax deduction and I am up about about €330 per month. When you throw in no creche fees I am up well over a grand a month. Also getting more time with the kids. We have been out everyday to a park, beach or playground since lockdown began.

    When I am back in work I will get an hour in the evening with them :(

    Tired though.

    What is the working from home tax deduction - that is a new one on me

    Or is your employer lowering your salary €3.20 per day and giving you €3.20 per day expenses in lieu? I'm interested


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    I am saving about 4 hours a week commuting and about €70 per week on lunches, coffees and travel costs. Add in the work.from home tax deduction and I am up about about €330 per month. When you throw in no creche fees I am up well over a grand a month. Also getting more time with the kids. We have been out everyday to a park, beach or playground since lockdown began.

    When I am back in work I will get an hour in the evening with them :(

    Tired though.


    Howd you get that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Glinda


    I'm interrupted constantly, so it's really hard to concentrate, and it's my kids interrupting me (they're older, not small kids) which means I feel guilty when the interruptions annoy me.

    I've a job with a lot of responsibility, so I work long hours, and it feels more like living at work than working at home at the moment.

    I normally have a short commute though, and a nice office to myself. Might feel different if those things weren't there. Now I'm working at the kitchen table and trying to manage a whole set of staff and other delicate working relationships via zoom. Lonely and horrible, while also somehow managing to be crowded and not at all peaceful. Much more stressful, I hate it and can't wait to go back.

    Mind you, I'd like the option now and again :P


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    JosTep wrote: »
    What is the working from home tax deduction - that is a new one on me

    Or is your employer lowering your salary €3.20 per day and giving you €3.20 per day expenses in lieu? I'm interested

    If your employer is not paying the working from home rate you can take it as an expense of employment.

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/health_and_safety/working_at_home.html

    'If your employer pays you an allowance towards these expenses, you can get up to €3.20 per day without paying any tax, PRSI or USC on it. If your employer pays more than €3.20 per day to cover expenses, you pay tax, PRSI and USC as normal on the amount above €3.20.

    If your employer does not pay you an allowance for your expenses, you can make a claim for tax relief at the end of the year. You will get money back from the taxes you paid.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 JosTep


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    If your employer is not paying the working from home rate you can take it as an expense of employment.

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/health_and_safety/working_at_home.html

    'If your employer pays you an allowance towards these expenses, you can get up to €3.20 per day without paying any tax, PRSI or USC on it. If your employer pays more than €3.20 per day to cover expenses, you pay tax, PRSI and USC as normal on the amount above €3.20.

    If your employer does not pay you an allowance for your expenses, you can make a claim for tax relief at the end of the year. You will get money back from the taxes you paid.'

    From the way you said it, I misunderstood what you said, I thought you were getting it currently.

    Although I suspect you won’t get that much back - the expenses you can claim are only those that you would not have incurred if you were working from home - so only a portion of your bills will be an allowable deduction and all the standing charges won’t be allowed as part of the portion.

    We’ll see if it’s clarified later this year or if the claims just sail through when reviews are done

    Thanks ðŸ‘


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    You will save tax at your marginal rate on 3.20 per day. So if you are on the higher tax rate you will be looking at €30 per month. Not a huge amount but given that I have been here for nearly 4 months it is worth making the claim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,957 ✭✭✭DopeTech


    5 days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    Negative hours. I'm usually in computer by 7,30 and on 80% of the time between then and 7pm, it's definitely meant more work and with less results.. Less pay also. Looking forward to this ending...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭crisco10


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    You will save tax at your marginal rate on 3.20 per day. So if you are on the higher tax rate you will be looking at €30 per month. Not a huge amount but given that I have been here for nearly 4 months it is worth making the claim

    OT but it's not on 3.20 per day. It's tax relief on the EXPENSES you incur - I.e. internet, heating and electricity.

    And even then it's, by default anyway, only 10% portion of them (the other 90% being left for the not working portion of being at home). And then also pro rate for number of days out of 365 worked from home.

    So take less than 10% of your utility bill, then at your marginal rate. Wont be zero, won't be much either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,261 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    I just added up the time ive save since ive been working from home.
    After about 106 days.
    Each day there are. 1 hour getting washed and dressed for work.

    You might need to start washing again, Jimmy.

    https://twitter.com/redditships/status/1277703303741288448?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,261 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    I just added up the time ive save since ive been working from home.
    After about 106 days.
    Each day there are. 1 hour getting washed and dressed for work.

    You might need to start washing again, Jimmy.

    https://twitter.com/redditships/status/1277703303741288448?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,671 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Al least 1.5hrs daily, maybe even close to 2hrs per day I'd guess.

    My commute would be 35 - 40mins or so each way, but I'd always have stopped off at a shop on the way home, plus I would always be 10mins early for work, or leave 10mins late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,733 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    My commute was only 10 mins so I have saved about a day since mid March.

    But I've saved loads in petrol and car tax.

    Was usually putting e70 a month into it, now I have not filled it since March 10th and when the tax was up at the end of May I declared it off the road until at least the end of August.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    You might need to start washing again, Jimmy.

    https://twitter.com/redditships/status/1277703303741288448?s=19

    Good point :)
    A sneaky shower after im logged into work takes care of the smell for a while :)


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