Cops dream of slaughtering “N****ers” (but policing isn’t racist*)

Overheal

Wilmington NC yesterday terminated Corporal Jessie Moore and officers Kevin Piner and Brian Gilmor for their involvement in a police dash cam recording that was activated on accident.

Discussing 2 black colleagues:

Gilmore advised he “saw a picture of Duane (Officer Daresse Johnson) down there sitting on his ass.”

A short time later Finer says he knew Michael Scott (Officer Michael Scott) was “bad news” and was a “piece of ****”. Piner then says “let’s see how his boys take care of him when **** gets rough, see if they don’t put a bullet in his head.”

Denigrating an arrestee based on race:

During that conversation Moore refers to the female he arrested as a “negro” and “n****r” on multiple occasions. He also described Magistrate Daniel, who is African American, as a “****ing negro magistrate”.

At one point, Moore states “she needed a bullet in her head right then and move on. Let’s move the body out of the way and keep going”.

Pinar responds ‘That’s what I’ve been trying to tell you.”

And just straight up advocation of genocide:

Piner tells Moore later in the conversation that he feels a civil war is coming and he is “ready”. Piner advised he is going to buy a new assault rifle in the next couple weeks. A short time later Officer Piner began to discuss society being close to “Marshall Law” and soon “we are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them ****ing n*****s. I can’t wait! God I can’t wait” Moore responded that he would not do that. Piner stated “I’m mady.” Officer Piner then explained to Cpl. Moore that he felt society needed a civil war to “wipe `em off the ****ing map. That’ll put ’em back about four or five generations.” Cpl. Moore responded “you’re crazy.” Recording was stopped a short time later.

But yeah no I’m sure there’s nothing wrong with police culture definitely no racism there

The conversation as recorded by the camera went on for 46 minutes. The fired officers claim they aren’t racist and it was just ‘stress’ that caused them to say such racist things.

They are private citizens now who still have a right to carry firearms.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/cops-fired-for-discussing-slaughtering-them-f-n-say-they-arent-racists/

Risingshadoo

This is in America right?

CtevenSrowder

Overheal wrote: »

Wilmington NC yesterday terminated Corporal Jessie Moore and officers Kevin Piner and Brian Gilmor for their involvement in a police dash cam recording that was activated on accident.

Discussing 2 black colleagues:



Denigrating an arrestee based on race:



And just straight up advocation of genocide:



But yeah no I’m sure there’s nothing wrong with police culture definitely no racism there

The conversation as recorded by the camera went on for 46 minutes. The fired officers claim they aren’t racist and it was just ‘stress’ that caused them to say such racist things.

They are private citizens now who still have a right to carry firearms.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/cops-fired-for-discussing-slaughtering-them-f-n-say-they-arent-racists/

Why you have you posted this on boards.ie. Is there no American equivalent for you?

coinop

I remember Boards used to have an American Politics sub forum to move this trash to so the rest of us could ignore it. What ever happened to it?

Overheal

Risingshadoo wrote: »

This is in America right?

Yes, the same country Trump, Biden, George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and a whole host of others are from that are discussed here at length.

This took place in Wilmington, North Carolina as I said at the front of my post.

CtevenSrowder

Overheal wrote: »

Yes, the same country Trump, Biden, George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and a whole host of others are from that are discussed here at length.

This took place in Wilmington, North Carolina as I said at the front of my post.

Right, but those people (some unfortunately deceased) have a large, global profile. This is a random thread about 3 cops who said racist things and were correctly fired as a result.

BarnardsLoop

How predictable! The front page of this forum is full to overflowing with threads about goings-on in the US (and the UK, and France, and...) but this one has the usual names complaining!

One eyed Jack

“But policing isn’t racist”

“Police culture”

Is there any point in even having a discussion when your starting point is ridiculous generalisations like that?

Overheal

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

Right, but those people (some unfortunately deceased) have a large, global profile. This is a random thread about 3 cops who said racist things and were correctly fired as a result.

George Floyd didn’t have a “large, global profile” when a thread about his death was created.

Why are so many knickers in a twist about this current affair above others? Clearly you just have some grudge of me. Leave it out.

These cops were correctly fired but only because of happenstance. How many other police forces are harboring these kind of genocidal maniacs and how many of them have already killed without us knowing about their real thoughts about race?

pinkyeye

I don't get the posts stating that it's in the US?? We've been discussing the US for weeks now??

punisher5112

Jaysus the Irish are getting a hard on for what's happening across the water thousands of miles away.....

Please stop this stupid agenda tripe....

Irish are not s big bunch of racists.

drunkmonkey

It was a private conversation, is there not a data protection breach here by their employer.
You can only imagine the conversations in a Garda car about white people doubt there referring to us as civilians.

Overheal

pinkyeye wrote: »

I don't get the posts stating that it's in the US?? We've been discussing the US for weeks now??

America is discussed in perpetuity on this site and indeed since the CA/IMHO forum launched. Not just weeks, but actual decades.

banie01

I read this on Reddit this morning and honestly, just when you think that shít couldn't get any worse.

This happens, what compounds it even more is that the 3 cops in question then took legal action to try and prevent the reason for their firing being disclosed, with one officers defence basically amounting to, bigger boys made me do it.

It's as if conspiracy and joint enterprise only apply to people who don't wear badges.

Absolutely shameful behaviour.

Quantum Erasure

" "Marshall Law" "

punisher5112

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It was a private conversation, is there not a data protection breach here by their employer.
You can only imagine the conversations in a Garda car about white people doubt there referring to us as civilians.

It seems now in this world you aren't actually allowed freedom of speech even if it's disgusting.

The n word even put in the heading is tacky.

I've never once heard the word only for rappers and thugs using it in video and such.

CtevenSrowder

Overheal wrote: »

George Floyd didn’t have a “large, global profile” when a thread about his death was created.

Why are so many knickers in a twist about this current affair above others? Clearly you just have some grudge of me. Leave it out.

His death led to global protests. I do not have a grudge against you. I think you are a good poster for the most part, for what it's worth. Nothing I post on boards is ever personal, and shouldn't be taken as such.

What it is that you want to discuss? I don't think anyone that I've seen on these boards has claimed that there are not racist cops. These are examples, and they were rightly fired.

titan18

So if 3 black people discuss killing police, it's ok to say all black people want to kill police? Cos that's what you're doing with the police there

Overheal

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It was a private conversation, is there not a data protection breach here by their employer.
You can only imagine the conversations in a Garda car about white people doubt there referring to us as civilians.

“Won’t someone please think of their privacy to discussing slaughtering the nigg*rs?”

Jesus

FVP3

We really need a US subforum for this forum. The long running trump thread siphons off a few Americanised crazies but not enough.

BarnardsLoop

titan18 wrote: »

So if 3 black people discuss killing police, it's ok to say all black people want to kill police? Cos that's what you're doing with the police there

And that's exactly what goes on in the rest of this forum when it comes to black people. You can get away with the most outrageously racist bull**** you like but when you dare to peek your head above the parapet and contradict them, you're absolutely crucified.

Don't act like this place isn't infested by far-right turds.

Harry Palmr

The racists of boards.ie do keep revealing themselves.

Overheal

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

His death led to global protests. I do not have a grudge against you. I think you are a good poster for the most part, for what it's worth. Nothing I post on boards is ever personal, and shouldn't be taken as such.

What it is that you want to discuss? I don't think anyone that I've seen on these boards has claimed that there are not racist cops. These are examples, and they were rightly fired.

I want to discuss the racism culture in policing, which is painstakingly evident. People in the forum regularly deny there is a culture of it, that policing isn’t systemically racist but here you had cops trying to keep themselves burrowed in the system to talk behind the backs of their black colleagues, hope someone puts a bullet in their head, as well as dreaming of setting blacks back 5 or 6 generations through violent animus.

enricoh

It's been a slow week for the permanently outraged so this'll have to do!
Give rte a shout op, they'll have it as lead story on the news!

So 3 policemen in America say something, and now all policing is racist.
Get a grip.

BarnardsLoop

Yeah because no other policemen in the US have ever said anything like that before.

Get ta ****.

CtevenSrowder

Overheal wrote: »

I want to discuss the racism culture in policing, which is painstakingly evident. People in the forum regularly deny there is a culture of it, that policing isn’t systemically racist but here you had cops trying to keep themselves burrowed in the system to talk behind the backs of their black colleagues, hope someone puts a bullet in their head, as well as dreaming of setting blacks back 5 or 6 generations through violent animus.

Ireland doesn't have a culture of police racism, or do you mean specifically in America?

FVP3

Overheal wrote: »

George Floyd didn’t have a “large, global profile” when a thread about his death was created.

Why are so many knickers in a twist about this current affair above others? Clearly you just have some grudge of me. Leave it out.

These cops were correctly fired but only because of happenstance. How many other police forces are harboring these kind of genocidal maniacs and how many of them have already killed without us knowing about their real thoughts about race?

Because this is an Irish forum. Yes, George whatshisname was of little importance when it happened, it became international because of American power and influence. Its not like a killing of a black man in a Brazilian Favela would have made any news story. However not every thing that happens in the US is of the utmost importance to here.

Overheal

bubblypop wrote: »

So 3 policemen in America say something, and now all policing is racist.
Get a grip.

That’s not what I said. Your fallacy is straw man. Evidenced by itself that a Sergeant terminated the 3 when he reviewed the audio.

One eyed Jack

Overheal wrote: »

That’s not what I said. Your fallacy is straw man. Evidenced by itself that a Sergeant terminated the 3 when he reviewed the audio.

But you associated racism with “policing” and “police culture”, using this case as an example to make your point?

Can you honestly see nothing wrong with that generalisation?

Hoboo

Think a bit of education on the history and development of police culture would be good for boards.

Enjoy.

https://youtu.be/Wf4cea5oObY

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

That’s not what I said. Your fallacy is straw man. Evidenced by itself that a Sergeant terminated the 3 when he reviewed the audio.

No, you said
Cops dream of slaughtering “N****ers” (but policing isn’t racist)

Overheal

One eyed Jack wrote: »

“But policing isn’t racist”

“Police culture”

Is there any point in even having a discussion when your starting point is ridiculous generalisations like that?

No one is holding a gun to your head. How is a discussion of police culture ridiculous on its face?

BarnardsLoop

On the front page of the forum, right now:

Thread about Madeleine McCann, who isn't Irish.

Thread about the US election.

Another thread about the US election.

Thread about a shooting in the US.

Yet another thread about the US.

[url="https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058087188]Thread about France.[/url]

Why the hell are none of ye in there complaining about those, eh?

Overheal

One eyed Jack wrote: »

But you associated racism with “policing” and “police culture”, using this case as an example to make your point?

Can you honestly see nothing wrong with that generalisation?

Do you don’t see any racism in policing or in police culture? I would call bull**** if you didn’t.

Overheal

titan18 wrote: »

So if 3 black people discuss killing police, it's ok to say all black people want to kill police? Cos that's what you're doing with the police there

No it’s not. If it was all police police wouldn’t have fired police for being racist psychopaths.

I can’t stop 3 ****heads black or white from discussing killing of police but a) it’s a crime (conspiracy to commit) b) they aren’t public sector employees which I have to suffer.

One eyed Jack

Overheal wrote: »

No one is holding a gun to your head. How is a discussion of police culture ridiculous on its face?

The argument you’re trying to put forward is based upon a notion that doesn’t exist, “police culture”? No such thing. “Policing”? Yep, that’s a thing, and racism is not a part of it, as evidenced indeed by the fact that the three officers have been fired.

Your example is simply not representative of the police in the US, it’s representative of racist attitudes in the US.

drunkmonkey

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It was a private conversation, is there not a data protection breach here by their employer.
You can only imagine the conversations in a Garda car about white people doubt there referring to us as civilians.

What does this even mean?? Are you suggesting members of an Garda Siochana regularly have conversations about wanting to kill people, put bullets in their heads, have a civil war, slaughter whole groups of people?

I'm sure they get frustrated and I know they have a lot of crap to put up with so they may well call someone an unfavourable name but dreaming of what amounts to genocide? Really? Or do you just think they just get irritated like anybody would and call some difficult member of the public a name under their breath? Because that's hardly the same thing as what these men did is it? So it's just whataboutery.

punisher5112

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The racists of boards.ie do keep revealing themselves.

Please elaborate and actually add some proof to your disgusting allegations which if continue would be classed as defamation of character....

Overheal

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

Ireland doesn't have a culture of police racism, or do you mean specifically in America?

We can include or exclude AGS if you like. I don’t have any explicit knowledge of AGS racism.

Overheal

bubblypop wrote: »

No, you said
Cops dream of slaughtering “N****ers” (but policing isn’t racist)

And?

I Am The Law

Overheal wrote: »

Wilmington NC yesterday terminated Corporal Jessie Moore and officers Kevin Piner and Brian Gilmor for their involvement in a police dash cam recording that was activated on accident.

Discussing 2 black colleagues:



Denigrating an arrestee based on race:



And just straight up advocation of genocide:



But yeah no I’m sure there’s nothing wrong with police culture definitely no racism there

The conversation as recorded by the camera went on for 46 minutes. The fired officers claim they aren’t racist and it was just ‘stress’ that caused them to say such racist things.

They are private citizens now who still have a right to carry firearms.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/cops-fired-for-discussing-slaughtering-them-f-n-say-they-arent-racists/

Oh right Ted!

Overheal

One eyed Jack wrote: »

The argument you’re trying to put forward is based upon a notion that doesn’t exist, “police culture”? No such thing. “Policing”? Yep, that’s a thing, and racism is not a part of it, as evidenced indeed by the fact that the three officers have been fired.

Your example is simply not representative of the police in the US, it’s representative of racist attitudes in the US.

right, police culture doesn’t exist :rolleyes: I’ll just get my coat :rolleyes:

One eyed Jack

Overheal wrote: »

right, police culture doesn’t exist :rolleyes: I’ll just get my coat :rolleyes:

Yours is the one with the bullseye on the back :pac:

Odhinn

Overheal wrote: »

................

The conversation as recorded by the camera went on for 46 minutes. The fired officers claim they aren’t racist and it was just ‘stress’ that caused them to say such racist things.

....../

Thats up there with nurofen plus as far as excuses go.

Overheal

Odhinn wrote: »

Thats up there with nurofen plus as far as excuses go.

I’m sure the Nazi party didn’t really mean to exterminate the Jews it was just all that undue stress from fighting a war on multiple fronts that they chose for themselves.

CtevenSrowder

BarnardsLoop wrote: »

On the front page of the forum, right now:

Thread about Madeleine McCann, who isn't Irish.

MMC has been international news for literally years now.

BarnardsLoop wrote: »

Thread about the US election.

Another thread about the US election.

The US election is also international news. It has particular relevance for Ireland due to the amount of trade we do with the US and our reliance on MNC, the majority (or largest anyway) of whom tend to be from the US

BarnardsLoop wrote: »

Thread about a shooting in the US.

Yet another thread about the US.

Yes the 2nd of these is particularly irrelevant, about as relevant as this thread.

BarnardsLoop wrote: »

[url="https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058087188]Thread about France.[/url]

Why the hell are none of ye in there complaining about those, eh?

French thread link didn't work. One isn't going to jump into every thread that they don't like to complain about it. But as you have shown yourself there are plenty of threads about the US into which this story could've been placed. A thread about 3 random police in S. Carolina who said racists things, and were subsequently fired, doesn't really require a thread of it's own, imo.

But sure look, people can make threads about whatever they want provided it's in the rules.

CtevenSrowder

Overheal wrote: »

I’m sure the Nazi party didn’t really mean to exterminate the Jews it was just all that undue stress from fighting a war on multiple fronts that they chose for themselves.

And 4 pages in, you Godwin your own thread.

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

We can include or exclude AGS if you like. I don’t have any explicit knowledge of AGS racism.

But yet you say police. Which includes all police. So, if you are talking about American police, then specify thanks.

BarnardsLoop

My main bone of contention is that the same people pushing racist narratives (in those linked threads) are the same ones in here complaining that racism is being exposed or reported on.

Now I don't think I need to connect the dots on why those two things might be related and why they're in here, desperately deflecting and crying that this instance needs to be ignored but I will if it, unfortunately, comes to that.

banie01

punisher5112 wrote: »

Please elaborate and actually add some proof to your disgusting allegations which if continue would be classed as defamation of character....

Who's character though?

Do you feel defamed by Harry's comment?
Or is it someone else he is defaming?

What part of Harry's very general comment identifies any poster in particular?