All the gear, no idea

zubair

When I see a rider with their heels on the pegs I just think it screams inexperience or poor riding at least. I saw 3 lads on sports bikes today with top brand leathers, boots and lids and every one of them had their heels on their pegs. I could see it a mile away, feet pointing ska ways. Is it just me or does anyone else even notice this?

batman_oh

zubair wrote: »

When I see a rider with their heels on the pegs I just think it screams inexperience or poor riding at least. I saw 3 lads on sports bikes today with top brand leathers, boots and lids and every one of them had their heels on their pegs. I could see it a mile away, feet pointing ska ways. Is it just me or does anyone else even notice this?

Looks just as silly being perched on the balls of your feet when going hundreds of kilometres and having your knee out cornering at the speed of a children's tricycle

Mjolnir

zubair wrote: »

When I see a rider with their heels on the pegs I just think it screams inexperience or poor riding at least. I saw 3 lads on sports bikes today with top brand leathers, boots and lids and every one of them had their heels on their pegs. I could see it a mile away, feet pointing ska ways. Is it just me or does anyone else even notice this?

Yep just you, people ride how they are comfortable.
Peg under mid foot with the start of the heel at the back of the pegs, toes slightly outward is where I'm comfortable with my f#ck€d up ankles.

If they are comfortable and safe then who cares.
Agree with the other poster too many street rossi's in Ireland.

zubair

Well I agree on the knee down {or out} at snails pace or anywhere that's not the track but I really think heels on the pegs looks weird and wrong. Maybe it is me.

arybvtcw0eolkf

zubair wrote: »

When I see a rider with their heels on the pegs I just think it screams inexperience or poor riding at least. I saw 3 lads on sports bikes today with top brand leathers, boots and lids and every one of them had their heels on their pegs. I could see it a mile away, feet pointing ska ways. Is it just me or does anyone else even notice this?

If you mean the peg is mid foot with the heel resting on the peg that's about 99% of riders, up on the balls of his/her feet is just the idiot who thinks they're on the track and they look like parrots on a little circus bike (they're usually wearing brand spanking new knee sliders which will never touch tarmac too).

bladespin

Never really noticed before but feeling self conscious now lol, tend to be a bit towards the mid to ball of foot I’d guess, but put more down to my position on the bike, not the longest legs either.

Max Headroom

Constantly moving from ball to toe to foot down, knee out.....who cares....:P

Mjolnir

Max Headroom wrote: »

Constantly moving from ball to toe to foot down, knee out.....who cares....:P

Maybe op has a foot fettish 😂🀔

zubair

Mjolnir wrote: »

Maybe op has a foot fettish 😂🀔

Nope, just the normal fetishes, boobs.

zubair

Kiara Fit Mouser wrote: »

If you mean the peg is mid foot with the heel resting on the peg that's about 99% of riders, up on the balls of his/her feet is just the idiot who thinks they're on the track and they look like parrots on a little circus bike (they're usually wearing brand spanking new knee sliders which will never touch tarmac too).

Is being on the balls of your foot really idiots who think they're on the track. Knee out on a roundabout at meh speeds I get but isn't riding in the balls of your feet just normal. Most riders I see ride like this, these lads stood out to me because of where their feet were.

Breezin

zubair wrote: »

Is being on the balls of your foot really idiots who think they're on the track. Knee out on a roundabout at meh speeds I get but isn't riding in the balls of your feet just normal. Most riders I see ride like this, these lads stood out to me because of where their feet were.

Gosh! I never realised there were style judges looking for
such outrages. Actually, I've never in all my life thought about it until I was out today, and I found quite spontaneously that I'm a mid-footer - no heel action at all. Phew!

Mjolnir

Breezin wrote: »

Gosh! I never realised there were style judges looking for
such outrages. Actually, I've never in all my life thought about it until I was out today, and I found quite spontaneously that I'm a mid-footer - no heel action at all. Phew!

Its the Irish bike scene some amazing people that would do anything to help even a stranger, lot of bitching and carrying on like school girls though.
Some of the fb groups are the saddest cringiest bunch of 40+ year olds I've ever come across

zubair

Breezin wrote: »

Gosh! I never realised there were style judges looking for
such outrages. Actually, I've never in all my life thought about it until I was out today, and I found quite spontaneously that I'm a mid-footer - no heel action at all. Phew!

Haha! It wasnt about the style. When I saw their foot placement it just looked very odd to me. I had never thought about it either I just put my feet on the pegs and go. They looked like experienced riders with really good gear and lovely bikes but this just stood out like a sore thumb... Or toe in this case.

Flyer1

zubair wrote: »

Haha! It wasnt about the style. When I saw their foot placement it just looked very odd to me. I had never thought about it either I just put my feet on the pegs and go. They looked like experienced riders with really good gear and lovely bikes but this just stood out like a sore thumb... Or toe in this case.

Ah sure.

None of us are perfect.

I'll talk lap times around Mondello intl. if you are really worried about how others ride tho :rolleyes:

Max Headroom

If they were on sports bikes and they had their heel on the pegs with their toes poining "ska ways"....they must have double jointed ankles...u sure they wernt on Harleys.....:P

Beta Ray Bill

zubair wrote: »

Haha! It wasnt about the style. When I saw their foot placement it just looked very odd to me. I had never thought about it either I just put my feet on the pegs and go. They looked like experienced riders with really good gear and lovely bikes but this just stood out like a sore thumb... Or toe in this case.

They're wearing good PPE and have road worthy bikes...

This is a win, simple as

In the last month I've seen a lot of the following:
Bikes that weren't roadworthy by any standard
Lads wearing shorts, T-shirts and in one or two cases sandles and no helmet riding.

As for the riding position, could have just been more comfortable.
I ride with the ball of foot on the Peg, it's more comfortable for me as I can put more controllable weight on the pegs if I had to than I would be able to if I had my heel on the peg.

Mjolnir

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

They're wearing good PPE and have road worthy bikes...

This is a win, simple as

In the last month I've seen a lot of the following:
Bikes that weren't roadworthy by any standard
Lads wearing shorts, T-shirts and in one or two cases sandles and no helmet riding.

As for the riding position, could have just been more comfortable.
I ride with the ball of foot on the Peg, it's more comfortable for me as I can put more controllable weight on the pegs if I had to than I would be able to if I had my heel on the peg.

just got told of a story today young Arabic fella wearing only shorts and tshirt, slow speed slide but got a fair amount of road rash by all accounts.

zubair

Well I remember meeting up with a few boardies back when the Sunday spins were more frequent and had higher numbers, we met with a group we didn't really know. 1 lad showed up in sandals and shorts.... we promptly left.

Japcati2020

Heel on the rearset and foot pointing out is actually proven to help with body weight and weight transfer when cornering on the race track. Left heel out when cornering right,and right heel out when cornering left.
Alot of racers are now using this technique.

zubair

Japcati2020 wrote: »

Heel on the reset and foot pointing out is actually proven to help with body weight and weight transfer when cornering on the race track. Left heel out when cornering right,and right heel out when cornering left.
Alot of racers are now using this technique.

And what about when you're going in a straight line on a road ;-}

ronivek

There is a slight difference between track days and road riding.

Personally when I rode I could only afford one set of leathers and one set of cold weather gear and I would mix and match based on conditions.

I am rather ashamed to admit I took the piss on occasion and went far too fast and tried far too hard to get my knee down on public roads; it should absolutely be left for the track.

Thankfully enough my only accidents were not on those occasions I was behaving like an idiot on public roads and my expensive gear did the job.

Also to suggest you should be riding on the road without full control of your vehicle (i.e. both feet close to both pedals for emergency use) seems a little silly; and on a sports bike if your toes are on the pegs and you don't have a thumb brake even more-so. Not sure what the current thinking is in terms of emergency braking and using the rear brake but I always found it useful especially on slippery roads. I'd much rather lose the back than the front.

Japcati2020

Who cares what way a person rides their bike on the road.
I dont.
More important things to be worried about than how somebody places their foot or heel on their bike.

Max Headroom

Theres few of us as it is without the PC Gestapo amongst us telling people what to wear,what bike we should have,how to ride ...we're adults ffs (debatable:P) ,we need to stop all these judgemental opinions...live and let live, and just enjoy your bike........:)

zubair

I don't think i was being gestapo like to be honest, I was wondering if anyone else ever notices it. I always seem to spot it for some reason, it just stands out a lot. I'm not suggesting they can't have fun and i wouldn't give anyone advice unless they asked for it.

Anyway, you're all cursed with noticing it from now on, you're welcome!

Mjolnir

Actually do people who have the balls of there feet on the pegs never trail brake, round my way with all the blond farmers ya have to.

zubair

Mjolnir wrote: »

Actually do people who have the balls of there feet on the pegs never trail brake, round my way with all the blond farmers ya have to.

So trailing with the rear brake I presume?

Mjolnir

zubair wrote: »

So trailing with the rear brake I presume?

Preloaded the rear brake going into a turn/bend while maintaining speed so if you need to put on the rears you don't throw off your geometry like you would if you hit brakes mid apex.
Control rear brake on and off while maintenance throttle position

Breezin

Mjolnir wrote: »

Actually do people who have the balls of there feet on the pegs never trail brake, round my way with all the blond farmers ya have to.

Thought that was front brake :eek:. Swear I'm not blond either. :P

Mjolnir

Breezin wrote: »

Thought that was front brake :eek:. Swear I'm not blond either. :P

I mean if ya want to try that let us know how it goes haha....

LollipopJimmy

zubair wrote: »

I don't think i was being gestapo like to be honest, I was wondering if anyone else ever notices it. I always seem to spot it for some reason, it just stands out a lot. I'm not suggesting they can't have fun and i wouldn't give anyone advice unless they asked for it.

Anyway, you're all cursed with noticing it from now on, you're welcome!

I took it that you were being a condescending git, on reflection I really don't think you meant it as such but you have now made me paranoid while driving so thanks. git... :pac:

Wonda-Boy

Not getting into this whole what is right and what is wrong as it all bollocks tbh, but there is a very good reason for having the ball of your foot on the peg and its nothing to do with being a rossi wanna be or the like.

Its actually a key point for the balance of your whole body whilst riding the bike and should be used in conjunction with the legs pressing the tank to form a strong core and free up the upper half of the body (arms and wrsits) and reduce tension.

I have been on numerous motorcycle courses and all the instructors could not emphasise this enough. Its especially important in the twistie's where minimum input on the handlebars is key....just let the bike do its thing.

Having said all that I would not judge anyone for the way they ride....we were all learners once, and everyday is a school day on a motorcycle.

Just my 2 cents.

spiggotpaddy

Not a bad idea to remind yourself every now and then, to not give a hoot what other people think you look like.

When I commuted to building sites, all my gear was tat. Anything decent would’ve been stolen.
As for my toe pointing preferences, that’s me own biz.

Max Headroom

I do tend to use my toe....only when I'm in heels tho...:P

H_Lime

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Not getting into this whole what is right and what is wrong as it all bollocks tbh, but there is a very good reason for having the ball of your foot on the peg and its nothing to do with being a rossi wanna be or the like.

Its actually a key point for the balance of your whole body whilst riding the bike and should be used in conjunction with the legs pressing the tank to form a strong core and free up the upper half of the body (arms and wrsits) and reduce tension.

I have been on numerous motorcycle courses and all the instructors could not emphasise this enough. Its especially important in the twistie's where minimum input on the handlebars is key....just let the bike do its thing.

Having said all that I would not judge anyone for the way they ride....we were all learners once, and everyday is a school day on a motorcycle.

Just my 2 cents.

So that's what I've been doing wrong....! :pac:

Breezin

Mjolnir wrote: »

I mean if ya want to try that let us know how it goes haha....

Well, I have tried it, more than once, and lived to tell the tale! :pac:

I don't do racing technique on roads, but I've found it gives more control, especially when the unexpected happens around a bend, e.g. one of our blond tractor friends. So it's become a habit.

I'm certainly not claiming to be an expert, but a bit of Googling indicates that it's the physics of applying the front that makes the difference. A couple of sources on this, but good ol' Wikipedia is probably the clearest...


Anyway, I'm open to correction!

In applying this technique, motorcycle riders approach turns applying front brakes to reduce speed. As they enter the turn, they slowly ease off the brakes, gradually decreasing or trailing off the brakes as motorcycle lean increases. This is done for several reasons.
First, it gives more traction because the downward force on the front tire is increased by load transfer. Second, as the brakes are applied and the weight shifts forward, the forks are compressed.[6] The compression of the forks changes the motorcycle's steering geometry, decreasing stability in a way that makes the motorcycle more apt to lean and more quickly change direction. Third, decreasing speed decreases the motorcycle's cornering radius. Conversely, accelerating while turning increases the motorcycle's cornering radius.

Also, this is a good rundown...

CBRLizzie

Oh dear, I ride with my heels on the pegs, but with size 4 feet, I don't really have much choice if I need to brake or change gears quickly

zubair

CBRLizzie wrote: »

Oh dear, I ride with my heels on the pegs, but with size 4 feet, I don't really have much choice if I need to brake or change gears quickly

It was you!!!! LOL

I don't have size 27 feet so I can't change gear or use the rear brake without moving my feet either.

Ultima Thule

Breezin wrote: »

Thought that was front brake :eek:. Swear I'm not blond either. :P

Yeah its front brake.

https://youtu.be/gPE67XqGsV4

I Am Nobody

Peg in the middle,toe up, heel down.

blade1

This is the proper way