Price of dogs

dohc turbo2

Anyone spot the price of dogs on donedeal lately gone mad expensive, if the prices are being paid there's more out of them than cattle , ha

djmc

Yes was just talking about it with herself the other day maybe it's time to breed some other animals. A jack Russell would surely be cheaper winter than a suckler cow and 400 euro a pup. A calf wouldn't make that ��

dohc turbo2

djmc wrote: »

Yes was just talking about it with herself the other day maybe it's time to breed some other animals. A jack Russell would surely be cheaper winter than a suckler cow and 400 euro a pup. A calf wouldn't make that ��

I couldn’t believe some of the prices , 1200-1500 for small dogs , I didn’t think people would be spending that much on pets , I’ve a pb Retriever got 8 odd years ago for autistic kid and paid 180 for him , wouldn’t get now

Westernrock

The amount of puppy breeders with adverts up claiming both parents are family pets and part of the family etc. etc. would make you sick! They’re making a fortune and all cash in hand, it’s a litter of one breed this week and the following week the same phone numbers will have a litter of another breed up 😡

treascon

There are mongrels being sold on it for 700/800. I’ve been looking lately too & commented about the ridiculous prices being sought. Don’t purchase from Done**** simple as!

kevthegaff

I bought a German shepard 12 years ago as a pup for 350 PB registered beautiful girl, still alive what are they worth now?

dohc turbo2

kevthegaff wrote: »

I bought a German shepard 12 years ago as a pup for 350 PB registered beautiful girl, still alive what are they worth now?

First add on dd for those pups is 900 sterling male 1200

ladystardust

treascon wrote: »

There are mongrels being sold on it for 700/800. I’ve been looking lately too & commented about the ridiculous prices being sought. Don’t purchase from Done**** simple as!

This!!!!! I dont get it. A cockapoo cross huskador and the like...its a mutt, why is it costing nearly a grand?

CrankyHaus

It's a short term spike in demand from people with the time on their hands during lockdown. Once they're back to normal and coming home from work and finding the dog made a mess on the floor they'll be throwing them out and you can pick up the same dog from the animal shelter for nothing but good karma.
Honestly it's a pretty despicable attitude to dog ownership, like Christmas times 10.

dohc turbo2

ladystardust wrote: »

This!!!!! I dont get it. A cockapoo cross huskador and the like...its a mutt, why is it costing nearly a grand?

Lad in Wicklow looking for 2grand a pop for those ,

heldel00

Mother sold a litter of boxers there a few weeks ago. She could have easily charged at least 100eur more per pup than what she did. She practically garda vetted every buyer so was happy they went to good homes.
But yes the prices are gone crazy. Pounds will be full in about 3 months when people are back to work, children back to school and no one has time for the dog.

orm0nd

kevthegaff wrote: »

I bought a German shepard 12 years ago as a pup for 350 PB registered beautiful girl, still alive what are they worth now?

I never found out the exact price ( or don't want to know) but my daughter gave well in excess of 1k for a 6 month old bitch last September.

bpmurray

Well, DoneDeal is famous for dog breeders with little or no morals: they are often from puppy mills with all the bad stuff that brings along so price gouging is hardly unexpected. If someone actually wants a dog, just go to the reputable breeders - I just checked and you can buy 2 beautiful chocolate labrador dogs for €500 for the pair.

mp3guy

I noticed this too. It's bizarre. We got our dog (border collie cross GSD) for free off some random farm about 18 months ago. There were 7 in the litter just free to a good home. Now people are charging mad money for anything. Shameful way to make a quick buck.

L-M

I was only saying this today. Her mother is looking for a dog and I just went onto dondeal for a look, 475 for a Jack Russell.

What happened to getting them in a cardboard box down the market for 20 euro lol

Westernrock

mp3guy wrote: »

I noticed this too. It's bizarre. We got our dog (border collie cross GSD) for free off some random farm about 18 months ago. There were 7 in the litter just free to a good home. Now people are charging mad money for anything. Shameful way to make a quick buck.

The sad thing is those people you got your perfectly healthy dog from probably struggled to find homes for them all because they were giving them away! But if a breeder with inbred dogs with health issues asks a fortune for a pup there would be a waiting list to get one, and the higher the price the more people want them!

mp3guy

Westernrock wrote: »

The sad thing is those people you got your perfectly healthy dog from probably struggled to find homes for them all because they were giving them away! But if a breeder with inbred dogs with health issues asks a fortune for a pup there would be a waiting list to get one, and the higher the price the more people want them!

Yeah it's completely backwards. At the same time we got her there were another two litters of collies for free up on donedeal as well.

treascon

It’s the same crack on Adverts recently I noticed. Some amount of ads for dogs for sale when they are supposed to be free to good home. All mainly new accounts too. Never noticed this as an issue really before Covid 19.

shaveAbullock

Animal welfare services and dog rescue shelters will be very busy in a few months time

alias no.9

Don't buy puppies, there are always puppies who need homes.

We got two puppies, mongrels, in early February after our last dog passed last year. A colleague of my wife had the two parents as family pets. We gave them a token gift rather than a fee.

The pups get a lot of attention from strangers, most of whom are shocked to find out that they're from the same litter because they're very different in appearance, there were three more pups who all looked alike but nothing like either of our pair, take note if you're interested in these "designer breeds" it's a total ****show as to where on the spectrum of the two parents that the pup will turn out.

Mjolnir

The reason specific cross breeds demand such a high price is they are known as designer breeds. The most desirable attributes of both dogs. Its selective breeding, as most know mixed breeds are generally a healthier dog as they tend not to inherit the failings of their pure breed counter parts.
I know someone who recently purchased a gsd of show lineage for €1500+. Gorgeous dog but not a hope would I.
Malamute, husky, samoyed, bermese, God, all those and more will cost €1000+ for "top" dogs.
My grandmother got a pure border collie for little or free she's a dopey but gorgeous dog. The amount some people pay is sickening, as mentioned lots of inbred and mixed breeds pretending to be pure breeds is astounding.
If you see a husky that looks like a gsd or lab it ain't pure and there's loads on dd like that.

afkasurfjunkie

Seriously, who in their right mind would buy a ‘pupe’ that’s ‘wormd and vacation got’. These so called sellers should be neutered and microchipped.

dohc turbo2

alias no.9 wrote: »

Don't buy puppies, there are always puppies who need homes.

We got two puppies, mongrels, in early February after our last dog passed last year. A colleague of my wife had the two parents as family pets. We gave them a token gift rather than a fee.

The pups get a lot of attention from strangers, most of whom are shocked to find out that they're from the same litter because they're very different in appearance, there were three more pups who all looked alike but nothing like either of our pair, take note if you're interested in these "designer breeds" it's a total ****show as to where on the spectrum of the two parents that the pup will turn out.

Might not be ur case but often with the pups are different it’s cause there can be different fathers in the one litter ,

alias no.9

Mjolnir wrote: »

The reason specific cross breeds demand such a high price is they are known as designer breeds. The most desirable attributes of both dogs. Its selective breeding, as most know mixed breeds are generally a healthier dog as they tend not to inherit the failings of their pure breed counter parts.
I know someone who recently purchased a gsd of show lineage for €1500+. Gorgeous dog but not a hope would I.
Malamute, husky, samoyed, bermese, God, all those and more will cost €1000+ for "top" dogs.
My grandmother got a pure border collie for little or free she's a dopey but gorgeous dog. The amount some people pay is sickening, as mentioned lots of inbred and mixed breeds pretending to be pure breeds is astounding.
If you see a husky that looks like a gsd or lab it ain't pure and there's loads on dd like that.

Crossing two pedigrees breeds can just as quickly deliver the worst combination of health and temperament as the best.


Edit... It's also far from selective breeding too, these people are breeding the same two dogs over and over again, the only selection going on is the fact that these are tge pair of dogs that they own.

emmaro

I'm glad there is a thread on this because I was browsing donedeal and absolutely shocked to see the current price of dogs.

Nearly 2,000 for cockapoos or whatever. Most breeds I looked up had prices ranging from 800-2000. Insane.

dmakc

I'd like to think the general public have the backbone to withhold €1200 for a dog that was €300 only four months ago. We're in the wrong game if not.

dohc turbo2

There is a bichon frice 3 month old in cork 2450 , crazy money

emmaro

Why are they suddenly so expensive?

shaveAbullock

emmaro wrote: »

Why are they suddenly so expensive?

Demand, loads of people want an dog right now because the are bored and have more free time.

enricoh

dohc turbo2 wrote: »

There is a bichon frice 3 month old in cork 2450 , crazy money

My folks had one, just as well they had the mortgage paid off as he was not far off that with the vet bills, injections, skin expert, special food etc etc!

Say my name

emmaro wrote: »

Why are they suddenly so expensive?

A farrier told me leisure horses have gone up in value since the lockdown.
Even unbroken horses gone up as people were looking for something to occupy their time with.
It'll be a different story of course when people get back to work or no work in cases and the economic situation bites hard.

naughto

Bought a young pub about 8 months old sheep dog two weeks ago papers and all not much change left from 500.
He is some what trained and will be going to a man locally to be fully trained in the next few weeks.
Kids love him and hes very friendly with them which is great

Lost bag

Glad I came across this thread! I called a person about shihtzu’s advertised on DD just over a week ago, I was told I’d get a call bacK - never did.

Next day ad was gone from DD, it was back a week later and price went up 3 times the original. It’s very frustrating.

shaveAbullock

Say my name wrote: »

A farrier told me leisure horses have gone up in value since the lockdown.
Even unbroken horses gone up as people were looking for something to occupy their time with.
It'll be a different story of course when people get back to work or no work in cases and the economic situation bites hard.

My local rescue is already re-homing dogs because the owners are back at work and no longer want them.
These are not dogs that were fostered from the rescue as they were reluctant to foster dogs when so many were out of work.

Birdnuts

shaveAbullock wrote: »

My local rescue is already re-homing dogs because the owners are back at work and no longer want them.
These are not dogs that were fostered from the rescue as they were reluctant to foster dogs when so many were out of work.

Clowns like that should be banned from ever owning a dog again:mad:

martinr5232

Lost bag wrote:

Next day ad was gone from DD, it was back a week later and price went up 3 times the original. It’s very frustrating.

Id say you dodged a bullet so.

eamond

afkasurfjunkie wrote: »

Seriously, who in their right mind would buy a ‘pupe’ that’s ‘wormd and vacation got’. These so called sellers should be neutered and microchipped.

Brilliant comment afkasurfjunkie. I was browsing the ads on DD and I found myself going from disbelief to anger before breaking into uncontrolled laughter at the outright cheek and BS of these 'breeders' (or maybe 'breaders'!) - as well as the quality of the prose.

Some of these ads were hilarious in terms of what the poor pups had going for them (mainly sfa!)

It seems the modern approach is either
1. Start a puppy farm and sod the consequences
or
2. If Trixie (who is pure-bred but a bit of a slag really) happens to mate with Joxer (the local Rex O'Carroll-Kelly) in the park - or at a site of your choosing - you simply take the names of both breeds, slice and dice them into something 'cute' and stick an ad on the dreaded DD.

Either way, the wording (if not the speling) of the ad is critically important. The products of this canine quickie must be described as 'worm(e)d', 'vac(cin)ated', 'great with children', 'non-shed', 'hypoallergenic', 'member of Mensa' and 'full driving licence'. And most importantly, this canine mutation must be priced in 4 figures.

Now I'm no apologist for the IKC - I'm sure they're not perfect any more that a lot of our institutions. But at least they provide some level of oversight - not to mention the much-lauded 'transparency' and 'traceability' we all know and love.

And needless to say, I am a lover of dogs of all breeds - and none (ah, you know what I mean). We had a much-loved (and spoilt) Bichon for about 15 years and I used to call him 'the youngest'. We still haven't got around to replacing him just yet since his unfortunate passing about 10 years ago. He was a fully paid-up IKC member btw.

But now, I think I'm entitled to a bite of 'new' this cake. So I'm currently hatching a plan to put an ad on DD advertising an entirely new hybrid .... cue the dreamy music.....

What if one were to arrange the union (via Photoshop of course) of say, an Akita and a Mastiff. Let's call this new creation a Ma-kita. (this Hybrid can even be charged at night on cheaper electricity!)

Once we have a few good photographs and add a dash of cuteness (but not too much given the parentage - and the target market for such a cocktail), think of a few meaningless pieces of bs and decide on a ridiculous price, we're all set to go. I'd say these adorable 'pupes' should fetch around € 1850 without any bother.

OK, I'm off to make up the ad and go shopping for a new car. And no, I'm not buying a Prius!

Thanks afkasurfjunkie for giving me a laugh. But please, as a new 'breader', I don't want any of the treatment you describe - especially that 'neutering' crack!

Btw, I'm not trying to make light of this very serious issue. It is something which really gets me annoyed. But looking on DD, I found it totally ridiculous that people would be willing to pay such stupid money for a mongrel - and that is exactly what a Cockapoo, Labradoodle, Makita etc. can be described as.

Incidentally, if I was to buy a house in Cabra and start cross-breeding a Poodle and a Labrador, could I call the pups 'Cabradoodles'. OK, enough of this. Time for my medication......

shaveAbullock

eamond wrote: »

But looking on DD, I found it totally ridiculous that people would be willing to pay such stupid money for a mongrel - and that is exactly what a Cockapoo, Labradoodle, Makita etc. can be described as.

Am I wrong in thinking that this is how the majority of people get dogs now?

Feisar

shaveAbullock wrote: »

Demand, loads of people want an dog right now because the are bored and have more free time.

Are people that simple minded that they cannot see that in three months time they'll be back to work, kids at school etc. and there won't be time for Fido?

eamond

shaveAbullock wrote: »

Am I wrong in thinking that this is how the majority of people get dogs now?

Appears to be. The new 'Buy and Sell' it seems. But definitely not the ideal place to source a pet.

Outkast_IRE

A person is smart , People are stupid.

Once they hear the demand is going up for something they want it too.

These people went out for a few walks during lockdown and now want dogs for company. Wait till its pissing rain for weeks on end and your collie or German Shepard will be digging bunkers out in the garden out of frustration and boredom cause these owners wont go out in the rain.

As others have said , i was talking to a few people who help out in shelters/rescues in Cork and they are all dreading the Autumn when people start to dump these animals with no consequences. I had a collie up until recently who died of old age related issues but up till the last 6 months if you were not out for a 5k plus walk and spent time training with her she would leave you know she wasnt happy.

amacca

shaveAbullock wrote: »

Am I wrong in thinking that this is how the majority of people get dogs now?

I wanted to get a golden lab a couple of years ago and asked my vet how would I go about it....i was told donedeal is your best bet ......i was going to go down the find a breeder go on waiting list road and remember getting contact details from a breed society website but when I was told that i just got a dog off donedeal in the end......dog is ikc registered etc (for what its worth) and I did the best I could to ensure it wasn't a puppy farm he was coming from.......found it difficult to get contact details for a "reputable" breeder..

What irked me (although I see the need for it given some of the goons you hear about) was all the rigmarole with rescuing a dog you seem to have to go through.....remember rescuing a Springer from a pound in Dublin donkeys years ago and it was the best dog we ever had....just requested a dog breed, waited and then took him home, was so delighted with him I dropped a good bottle of whiskey back to the warden the next year ..rescued a lab mongrel more recently and jumped through moderate hoops and then shelled out 300 in vet bill (different vet) to have him treated for parvo which they didn't vaccinate for in that pound ....unfortunately he died so that and the hoops the other ones make you jump through to adopt a dog (which are sadly probably necessary) just put me off so I said I'd buy...........mayve not ideal but donedeal seems to be the route of least resistance everything else seems to be a potential pain in the hole or at least it did to me.

thecretinhop

The only thing on the planet I agree with Linda Martin on.
How do I get a dog from a proper source.
Last 2 dogs rescue yeah there will be a swamp of dem come August even

LilacNails

A lot of these so called sellers are thefts. There's been a huge spike in dogs reported missing or stolen where I am.

Please have a look on some animal charities and dog pounds before purchasing off done deal or any other similar platform.

There are thousands of unwanted dogs, the country doesn't need anymore, it's only easy money for many who can't be bothered to get off their holes and work.

eamond

amacca wrote: »

...........mayve not ideal but donedeal seems to be the route of least resistance everything else seems to be a potential pain in the hole or at least it did to me.

I think it's time for the IKC to step up to the plate here. They are in the ideal position to counteract puppy farms, Dr. Frankensteins etc. All they have to do is allow genuine (and properly vetted) breeders to advertise their pups on a DD clone of their own making and control.
I think they have registers of breeders but Lockdown Larry (and Liz) want the point-and-click convenience of DD etc.

eamond

and there's a couple of French Bulldogs in Dublin for €3000. Must be paying for their good looks ('a face that only a mother could love'). Or maybe they actually speak French. Must be really special.

mp3guy

eamond wrote: »

and there's a couple of French Bulldogs in Dublin for €3000. Must be paying for their good looks ('a face that only a mother could love'). Or maybe they actually speak French. Must be really special.

Imagine spending more on a car that will have more issues than a cheaper (or even free) one down the line?

gmisk

eamond wrote: »

and there's a couple of French Bulldogs in Dublin for €3000. Must be paying for their good looks ('a face that only a mother could love'). Or maybe they actually speak French. Must be really special.

That honestly isn't that unusual for a good french bulldog. A blue one can easily go for more.
Mine is fawn went through proper channels IKC etc visited him and the house,other pups, parents, about 4 times before collecting. Zero real breed issues health wise and he is 3 now. He was 2k. They can be great family let's.
On the flip side I go to french bulldog meetups and some of them are not good health wise.

People getting dogs from donedeal etc are asking for trouble.

lakill Farm

had a litter of liver colour springer spaniel pups last year. I own the 2 parents. During the Last few weeks, 4 of the people who bought pups off us last year wanted to buy another this year but we aren't going to have a litter this year by choice. all 4 booked a pup for 2021.

There are good bloodlines in both parents but really pups are hard work. first 5 days you could be checking them every 2 hours around the clock. bitch had a clatter of pups so swapped half the pups from bitch to a clear plastic box beside her with heat lamp and hot bottle every 2 hours.
Feed and water and small run of bitch every 2 hours.

IKC fees
Food
micro chip
more food
vaccinations

you would have about 135/150 cost per pup for a spaniel

Ave Sodalis

I have absolutely no problem with spending money on a well bred, health tested reputable sourced dog. In fact, I would prefer that to rescue, and I despise the whole "adopt, don't shop" notion.

However, thousands for a byb mutt is insanity. There needs to be far higher repercussions (or just repercussions in the first place) for anyone puppy farms and backyard breeders. Designer breeds should be outlawed unless they have a specific working dog purpose, in which case they should be held to the same high standard as purebred dogs.

Say my name wrote:

A farrier told me leisure horses have gone up in value since the lockdown. Even unbroken horses gone up as people were looking for something to occupy their time with. It'll be a different story of course when people get back to work or no work in cases and the economic situation bites hard.

Horses are completely unattainable right now. You're looking at 3k for something that would have cost 300 a few months ago. Anything that is capable of doing anything, you're talking 5k or more.

shaveAbullock

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

I have absolutely no problem with spending money on a well bred, health tested reputable sourced dog. In fact, I would prefer that to rescue, and I despise the whole "adopt, don't shop" notion.

Is it because most dog rescues require you to have a secure area for the dog?
That's the issue most people I know seem to have when they consider adopting and why they feel a breeder for donedeal the better option because of this.