Do you believe Reverse Racism exists?

Nozebleed

With all the anti-white sentiment on social media right now..is it time for people to acknowledge there is a real problem with Reverse Racism..

the level of anti-white hatred has never been so evident.

Beechwoodspark

I’ve witnessed racism (verbal comments) against “white Irish” on a number of occasions by persons who appeared to be African origin so damn right yes it does exist in Ireland

kowloon

It's not reverse racism though, is it? It's just racism.

MontgomeryClift

Yes and No.

What we call racism is simple in-group preference, which is natural, and exists in all people.

The fact that it seems only to apply to whites betrays modern use of the word "racism" as an essentially anti-white pejorative.

And yes, the anti-white hatred is becoming clear now. Demographics are close to making whites a minority in formerly white countries like the US and Britain, and other groups are emboldened by the prospect. They can smell blood.

Nozebleed

kowloon wrote: »

It's not reverse racism though, is it? It's just racism.

well there are those who believe black people cant be racist to a white person. its only a one way street.

biko

It exists (although the "reverse" label is wrong, it's just plain racism), and it's much more blatant than racism against Asians or Africans.

punisher5112

I work in transportation of human beings and as a whole most get along or keep to themselves.

I've only ever come across racism 3 times in 14 years so it ain't as bad as they're making out.

I've had much more incidents where the racism was aimed at me and my skin colour as I'm white and Irish.

I fully appreciate there is racism and sure there is all sorts of loonies out there but what's going on now is out of control and we are been all made out to be racist....

It's the same argument some women have that men are rapists and kiddy fiddler's and so on.....


Very small % and I really am not happy with leo and his comments against whites and too many in the civil service.....

Eh hello we are a tiny island where the indigenous people are white.... We didn't wake up one day and throw the black people out.


I find the whole thing bizarre and how 2faced these thugs are doing the looting etc.

Danzy

Reverse racism only came in to use in response to the utterly ridiculous idea from some that racism is prejudice + power.

That has gained traction across the modern left.

It's a ridiculous term but it is a response to a ridiculous definition.

Eric Cartman

absolutely exists and unlike racism against other groups , its openly tolerated and applauded in our universities, on social media and politically.

its not even 'reverse racism' calling it that implies that white people are the source of all racism which is very much not true.

El_Duderino 09

Nozebleed wrote: »

With all the anti-white sentiment on social media right now..is it time for people to acknowledge there is a real problem with Reverse Racism..

the level of anti-white hatred has never been so evident.

I've no idea what reverse racism is. It sounds like an excess of equality.

If there's anyi-white racism, then it's racism.

Where do you see it, OP? You should be sure to point it out.

Danzy

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I've no idea what reverse racism is. It sounds like an excess of equality.

It's often an excess of boots to the head.

Nozebleed

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I've no idea what reverse racism is. It sounds like an excess of equality.

If there's anyi-white racism, then it's racism.

Where do you see it, OP? You should be sure to point it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPB8-6_fopg

El_Duderino 09

Danzy wrote: »

It's often an excess of boots to the head.

That sounds like assault too. So where do you see it?

completedit

All Lives Matter. Saying anything else just perpetuates and pronounces the divide. All Lives Matter is about unity and togetherness. We are all one of the same. Bringing up arbitrary differences between us like skin colour only exuberates the divide.

And probably it does happen. But in our American/western narrative, ''we''(Bosnians massacred in the wars, Irish discriminated against in the North of Ireland) rule the roost. Can you be racist against the oppressor? I suppose connotations of racism come with the idea of feeling inferior.

Of course racism against whites exist. We are humans, capable of great kindness but equal brutality towards the other.

kowloon

Nozebleed wrote: »

well there are those who believe black people cant be racist to a white person. its only a one way street.

That's a pretty racist line of thinking. Racism goes both ways, and I'm sure most of the people protesting would agree. Of course, that doesn't mean black and white people experience the same forms of racism. All other things being equal, I think I'm probably less likely to get hassled by the police in the average American city than an African-American guy.

rossie1977

No and using social media to gauge society as a whole is stupid.

joseywhales

Racism exists in every country between all races. It's a bit of bad human nature we are trying to overcome.

Danzy

completedit wrote: »

Can you be racist against the oppressor? r.

Just wow.

completedit

I mean in the sense that the narrative is driven by a white European culture which now, in the form of Americanisation, dominates our cultural landscape and ways of framing the world. In the way the current narrative is framed, all whites represent the oppressors and 'people of colour' are the ones subjugated to systemic racism laid down by us. So my view is that racism comes from power. When you feel in control, you don't care about it to the same degree as you would if you have been made to feel inferior. Someone in Dublin will probably not give af about someone in London ribbing on his/her Irishness, but someone from Derry, might take a very different view.

walshb

With hundreds and hundreds of millions of people all now having a voice and all thinking they know it all, it stands to reason that racism will be blown way out of proportion. It exists. Has always. Will always exist. There are many tools and resources and legal aids in society to tackle it and deal with it......cant we just stfu and get on with life?

People are now searching and digging likel lunatics to actually make out that "their people" are more affected than your people and so on.....

Christopher fooking Columbus, who is almost 600 years old can't even RIP today...

The world is a cesspool of crazy ass combative sh1t. People are obsessed with fighting and giving out....

MontgomeryClift

MontgomeryClift wrote: »

Demographics are close to making whites a minority in formerly white countries like the US and Britain, and other groups are emboldened by the prospect. They can smell blood.

How are whites close to becoming a minority when 13% of Americans are black and about 3% of Brits are black...

rossie1977

This idea online that somehow white men in America are the ones being held down and prejudiced against is beyond hilarious.

El_Duderino 09

Nozebleed wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPB8-6_fopg

Yeah, what that woman said is racist. Just racist. Fair enough if you want a special term for taco against your race. Stranhe way of going about the issue though.

Eric Cartman

rossie1977 wrote: »

This idea online that somehow white men in America are the ones being held down and prejudiced against is beyond hilarious.

it depends, out on the street - absolutely not , in the working classes - absolutely not, in the boardroom, higher executive positions and promotions , the media, on social media - absolutely yes.

olestoepoke

Nozebleed wrote: »

With all the anti-white sentiment on social media right now..is it time for people to acknowledge there is a real problem with Reverse Racism..

the level of anti-white hatred has never been so evident.

I have personally experienced racism from African Americans. I lived in NYC for over 15 years. Also why do you call it "reverse racism"? It's just racism.

El_Duderino 09

Danzy wrote: »

Just wow.

That poster was being doing irony.

Eric Cartman

Deleted User wrote: »

How are whites close to becoming a minority when 13% of Americans are black and about 3% of Brits are black...

yeah the replacement stuff is pretty far fetched, the only slight bit of realistic truth to it is the reproduction rate among white people is below other races and is falling while its growing among immigrants and improved healthcare is lowering infant mortality rates among poorer non white populations.

the US will remain a predominantly white country till long after I'm dead , but white babies being the minority on maternity wards across the country is a medium term likelihood.

EmmetSpiceland

MontgomeryClift wrote: »

Demographics are close to making whites a minority in formerly white countries like the US and Britain, and other groups are emboldened by the prospect. They can smell blood.

Where did you get that one?

Isn’t the black population of the US 12 or 13%? Whereas the white population is in the 70s.

In the UK the gap is even bigger.

You’re talking tarmac there, son. Absolute “tosh”.

completedit

This isn't like some oh wow they're racist too revelation. It just is, humans can be pricks and unkind, why does it horrify people that people will use race as one stick to beat people with? We use everything to feel superior to others, intelligence, accent, looks, where you went to school, what you own etc. etc. Pricks will be pricks.

MontgomeryClift

Deleted User wrote: »

How are whites close to becoming a minority when 13% of Americans are black and about 3% of Brits are black...

Whites in the US are down from over 90% 60 years ago to 65% today, and project to be a minority before 2050. Whites in the UK are projected to be a minority by 2060, even without further immigration.

There are other non-white groups apart from black/African. I shouldn't have to explain this to adults.

Danzy

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

That sounds like assault too. So where do you see it?

Seen it in Ireland, saw it loads while J1ing in New York.

The visceral hatred for oriental from black Anericans,often physical, the return though never saw physical, and on and on.

rossie1977

Eric Cartman wrote: »

it depends, out on the street - absolutely not , in the working classes - absolutely not, in the boardroom, higher executive positions and promotions , the media, on social media - absolutely yes.

In 2017 72% of those in top management positions of Fortune 500 companies were white men https://fortune.com/2017/06/09/white-men-senior-executives-fortune-500-companies-diversity-data/

The richest businessmen on Earth are majority white men.

El_Duderino 09

MontgomeryClift wrote: »

Whites in the US are down from over 90% 60 years ago to 65% today. Whites in the UK are projected to be a minority by 2060, even without further immigration.

By minority, you mean lower than a simple majority but obviously still the largest racial group, right?

screamer

There’s no reverse about it, there is racism against white people. Difference is we are supposed to accept it, it’s our comeuppance, but don’t dare show racism towards people of colour. Well we’re all people of colour, whether white, black, whatever and the current wave of BLM will just make racism worse, and split society even further than it ever has been. If it’s equality they espouse, then they need to stop the decisive tactics because it’s only as equals, and acting as equals that we can move forward. The current behaviour from BLM is never going to support the change needed.

utyh2ikcq9z76b

Check what's happening to whites in South Africa

Danzy

Eric Cartman wrote: »

it depends, out on the street - absolutely not , in the working classes - absolutely not, in the boardroom, higher executive positions and promotions , the media, on social media - absolutely yes.

Class divide informing different opinions. Modern left wing activists are usually far removed from the working class and that has accelerated over the last 5 years.

That wasn't always the case .

Eric Cartman

rossie1977 wrote: »

In 2017 72% of those in top management positions of Fortune 500 companies were white men https://fortune.com/2017/06/09/white-men-senior-executives-fortune-500-companies-diversity-data/

The richest businessmen on Earth are majority white men.

correct, but id imagine if you went 20 years before that, it was likely 90% , not saying they need all the positions but there is a concerted PR and investor led agenda to diversify boardrooms, even at the expense of the best candidate being promoted, and the message is very clear 'no more white men'

osarusan

Racism exists. There is both casual and systemic racism.

I'm not a fan at all of the recent argument that the only kind of racism is systemic racism, and thus, the minority can never be racist against the majority who have all/more control of the system. Maybe they can't be systemically racist against them, but they can certainly be casually racist.

Reverse racism, as I understand it, is the idea that attempts to improve the lot of a particular minority (affirmative action in the USA, for example), constitute a form of systemic racism against members of the majority, as these policies will result in discrimination at individual level (such as when a quota means a member of a minority gets a college place/job ahead of a member of the majority). It's hard to disagree that these things will happen at individual level. Whether it amounts to systemic discrimination is another question though.

Where 'reverse racism' is used to simply mean racist acts by members of a minority towards members of a majority, it's just racism in my eyes, no need for the word 'reverse'.

screamer

Zain Loud Speckle wrote: »

Check what's happening to whites in South Africa

Coming soon to a country near you if we keep going as we are

Danzy

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

That poster was being doing irony.

I let the missus do the ironing, so I wasn't familiar enough with it.

I'll try harder

sabat

olestoepoke wrote: »

I have personally experienced racism from African Americans. I lived in NYC for over 15 years. Also why do you call it "reverse racism"? It's just racism.

On my very first day in New York in 1999 I got called a "white f*ggot" by some Nation of Islam guys in Union Square.

Figel Narage

I mean the definition of it is "a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another." Anyone can do that, white, black, brown, whatever. I know why they say reverse racism as it's a power thing but it's racist to paint all white people as such. Ireland had been occupied for hundreds of years, what did we avail of

MontgomeryClift

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

By minority, you mean lower than a simple majority but obviously still the largest racial group, right?

Yes, but other groups tend to band together while they have a common rival in the larger white group. If the whites could be eliminated they would proceed to fight amongst themselves.

rossie1977

Zain Loud Speckle wrote: »

Check what's happening to whites in South Africa

What is happening in South Africa is the vast majority of farm workers killed are black..

Except right wing media and far right propaganda youtube channels don't report that. They also don't report white farm owners killing other white farm owners surprisingly enough either.

South Africa is a violent place

olestoepoke

rossie1977 wrote: »

In 2017 72% of those in top management positions of Fortune 500 companies were white men https://fortune.com/2017/06/09/white-men-senior-executives-fortune-500-companies-diversity-data/

The richest businessmen on Earth are majority white men.

Ive read a lot in recent weeks about statistics and yeah I agree there is definitely systemic racism in certain countries. That said statistics can be very misleading, to say that a you are x times more likely to be killed or x times more likely to be searched if you are a black male in the US is evidently true but is it 100% the result of systemic racism? Or does the way certain elements of the black community behave influence these statistics? Statistically an black person is way more likely to be killed by another black person in the USA. The point you are making about the top companies executives being mostly white is a valid one but not entirely due to racism. I think the real issue is education or lack of it when it comes to minorities in the US.

rossie1977

sabat wrote: »

On my very first day in New York in 1999 I got called a "white f*ggot" by some Nation of Islam guys in Union Square.

I was in New York in paddy's day parade in 2004 and guy behind me said 'fu*king Irish' so what does that say..

utyh2ikcq9z76b

I'd see reverse racism as when someone gains from it. Like a person getting a job because they are black. Quota systems for diversity are reverse racism.

screamer

rossie1977 wrote: »

What is happening in South Africa is the vast majority of farm workers killed are black..

Except right wing media and far right propaganda youtube channels don't report that. They also don't report white farm owners killing other white farm owners surprisingly enough either.

South Africa is a violent place

Go read a bit more, there’s far more to it than farmers and farm workers. If you’re white in South Africa now, you won’t even get a job, there are rules about hiring black people which flavour them over whites. We need to be careful setting all sorts of gender or diversity quotas in Ireland because it’s not the way to go.

biko

rossie1977 wrote: »

What is happening in South Africa is the vast majority of farm workers killed are black..

Except right wing media and far right propaganda youtube channels don't report that. They also don't report white farm owners killing other white farm owners surprisingly enough either.

That's mad, can you add some source for me to read about this?

olestoepoke

rossie1977 wrote: »

I was in New York in paddy's day parade in 2004 and guy behind me said 'fu*king Irish' so what does that say..

I lived in Yonkers for almost 16 years. I could write an essay about the racism I experienced from black people. Ranged from blatant abuse to subtle changes in the persons attitude when they spoke to you. Looking me up and down and spitting on the ground calling me "Honky" Don't even mention the Mexicans and the racism they are subjected to. It amazes me that that community aren't out marching and complaining more.

walshb

Oh, and can people please quit with the effing nonsense that because there are people in all walks of life that are racist, that there is systemic racism in all walks of life...it's BS.

Systemic racism is a whole corrupted body......

The KKK have systemic racism....I get this

Some cops who are racist, or some teachers that are racist, or some doctors that are racist, or some lawyers that are racist does not mean that those bodies are systemically racist,