Why do travellers get away with stuff normal people wouldn't?

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!

It's not fair.

They drive top of the range cars when they are supposedly unemployed. If a normal person were to do that they'd be questioned by CAB.

They engage in blatant animal cruelty. They mistreat their horses, they've been known to rush a pregnant horse until the foals abort. The engage in dog fights and use small dogs and cats as bait. If I wanted a horse I'd have to guarantee an acre of land for the horse to live on.

They steal catalytic converters and raid plumbers' sheds for the metal within. They make cars unroadworthy by their theft forcing the car owners to park their car up for days on end until it's replaced. A normal person would be punished for driving an unroadworthy car but the travellers wouldn't.

They steal power tools from hard working men and sell them on the black market with impunity and brazenness. The hardworking men are probably funding their dole that they are probably drawing under several different aliases.

The wreck any property they are given, rip up the floorboards, pillage the copper and abandon the house. If you or I did that we'd have to pay for our damage.

They burgled houses within a certain radius of where they live and terrorise the elderly, disabled and vulnerable and extort money from them.

They have an exceedingly high rate of domestic violence and assault.

They don't care who their targets are.I'm a victim of their crime myself so anyone who criticises me can shut the fūck up. I hate them.

They are NOT a different ethnicity. Simple as. Just because they call themselves one or they are recognised doesn't make it so. They are just as Irish as the next person, if not more. I believe they started to digress as a cultural group in the mid 1840's although I'm open to being corrected.

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unhappys10

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Culture boss

They’re protected by the state.

Better Than Christ

Yes - all or mostly all negative

Why do racist trolls never manage to get away with re-regging for very long?

corner of hells

Eight "they's" in your post , must be some sorta record.Sorry I meant 15.

Larbre34

The most original thread ever. Inevitably to descend into abuse and unsubstantiated allegations.

unhappys10

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Better Than Christ wrote: »

Why do racist trolls never manage to get away with re-regging for very long?

Travellers aren't a race.

Better Than Christ

Yes - all or mostly all negative

Larbre34 wrote: »

The most original thread ever. Inevitably to descend into abuse and unsubstantiated allegations.

Nah, it'll get locked before that happens. And then the thread starter will get banned, hopefully.

dartboardio

Very simple answer.

Because they would terrorise the police and their families if they tried to get them to stop.

I know lots of bouncers around town who have to let travellers into nightclubs even if they're making trouble as otherwise travellers would turn against them.

They're dangerous fckers sure.

Please don't start with the racist card. This is very very very different.

Yes in the eyes of the law travellers are seen as a race but most people disagree.

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!

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Better Than Christ wrote: »

Why do racist trolls never manage to get away with re-regging for very long?

You know where the report button is if you (wrongly) believe I'm a rereg.

Pkiernan

Who is buying all the stolen property?

If there were no dirtbags buying stolen tools, there be no dirtbags stealing them.

Better Than Christ

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Why do racist trolls never manage to get away with re-regging for very long?

They deserve everything said about them. It’s not one bit racist, even if it is the flavour of the week right now.

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!

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Better Than Christ wrote: »

Why do racist trolls never manage to get away with re-regging for very long?

How is it racist to point out facts about a different race? They're not a different race btw.

Better Than Christ

Yes - all or mostly all negative

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

They deserve everything said about them.

All of them? Seriously?

Better Than Christ

Better Than Christ wrote: »

All of them? Seriously?

They say culture.

What they do (outlined in a lot of the OP) is the culture.

LuasSimon

They have destroyed Rural Ireland between burglaries , drug dealing, intimidation etc but the PC brigade will ensure nothing happens them . Its amazing none of them ever do a days work and get welfare from cradle to grave, We should all become travelers.
New Sinn Fein are the biggest apologists for Traveler crime .

pgj2015

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They do get away with a lot of things but so does everyone else, in fairness CAB do frequent raids on their houses and take cars and other property off them. I wouldn't agree with the person who said the guards are afraid of them and wont stop them because they would go after them, the biggest mistake criminals can make is to go after a guard like that, as the scum who tried to burn a guards house down this week will realize soon enough. also the prisons are full of them so its not like they are never punished for their crimes.

corner of hells

I'd say they're big into their statues too , statue enthusiasts if you like.

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!

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Rural Ireland is not a nice place to live.

Lambs are taken and used as bait in dog fights.

Tractors and farm machinery are stolen.

Gates are removed which results in further loss of livestock due to wandering.

Houses are burgled.

Oil tanks are empited.

unhappys10

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Better Than Christ wrote: »

All of them? Seriously?

Fairly safe to say the vast majority. I used to work as a postman, one estate in particular was full of them.

EVERY SINGLE ONE of them were getting social welfare cheques each week. Several used to meet me on the road at the beginning of my route hours before I'd reach their houses, in brand new cars to get the post from me.
One in particular thanked me for his "wages" while laughing each week.
As long as there is the likes of you standing up for them they'll never have to change.
Guaranteed you haven't had any dealings with them.

bucketybuck

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I happened upon a radio interview with a guy from the IFA talking about things in North County Dublin, talking about the struggles people in rural parts of Dublin face combating crime and some of the measures they were trying to put in place to help. Talking about the burglaries, the intimidation, the fly tipping, the assaults etc etc. He spoke well and it was interesting.

What also was interesting was the lengths he went to in making sure he did not say the words that everybody would have been thinking. "Certain gangs". "Known individuals". "Crime families".

He clearly had been coached not to say the word "Travellers". The implications of that should be worrying in a civilised society.

williestroker1

unhappys10 wrote: »

Fairly safe to say the vast majority. I used to work as a postman, one estate in particular was full of them.

EVERY SINGLE ONE of them were getting social welfare cheques each week. Several used to meet me on the road at the beginning of my route hours before I'd reach their houses, in brand new cars to get the post from me.
One in particular thanked me for his "wages" while laughing each week.
As long as there is the likes of you standing up for them they'll never have to change.
Guaranteed you haven't had any dealings with them.

I didn't know anyone got social welfare cheques posted to them. As long as I can remember you went to the social welfare office or post office. Some were paid into accounts. Cheques in the post!!

unhappys10

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williestroker1 wrote: »

I didn't know anyone got social welfare cheques posted to them. As long as I can remember you went to the social welfare office or post office. Some were paid into accounts. Cheques in the post!!

They used to ask for their cheques, I never opened one so I don't know what was inside, small white envelope with a window and yellow form inside, this was about 15-20 years ago.
Point is they were all getting them, one house was getting 5 or 6 of them weekly.

Cork Trucker

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williestroker1 wrote: »

I didn't know anyone got social welfare cheques posted to them. As long as I can remember you went to the social welfare office or post office. Some were paid into accounts. Cheques in the post!!

I got welfare cheques in the post while on the sick years ago.

Uncle Mclovin

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Was out for a run some day last week. Passed some fat little pavee on a bike. No more than twelve I'd say. All on his own and he still had the cheek to make a smart comment to me. All I could do was laugh.

Unfortunately they're dragged up by their parents so there is no hope for them.

Pkiernan

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

Rural Ireland is not a nice place to live.

Lambs are taken and used as bait in dog fights.

Tractors and farm machinery are stolen.

Gates are removed which results in further loss of livestock due to wandering.

Houses are burgled.

Oil tanks are empited.

Who is buying the stolen property? It's not other Travellers.

Better Than Christ

Yes - all or mostly all negative

unhappys10 wrote: »

Fairly safe to say the vast majority. I used to work as a postman, one estate in particular was full of them.

EVERY SINGLE ONE of them were getting social welfare cheques each week. Several used to meet me on the road at the beginning of my route hours before I'd reach their houses, in brand new cars to get the post from me.
One in particular thanked me for his "wages" while laughing each week.
As long as there is the likes of you standing up for them they'll never have to change.
Guaranteed you haven't had any dealings with them.

It's not fair to say the vast majority. Nor is it accurate to say that the majority drive new cars either. Plenty of them use public transport.

And I've had loads of dealings with Travellers. Lived around the corner from some for years and never experienced any problems. I encounter them almost every day through my job and have yet to have any negative experiences.

I'm not trying to suggest for one second that they're all good, or that there aren't massive problems within the Travelling community, regarding crime, drink/drug abuse, poverty and health problems. Just that the kind of ignorant generalisations made by idiots on here aren't fair on the decent ones.

Pkiernan

Pkiernan wrote: »

Who is buying the stolen property? It's not other Travellers.

Someone would probably buy my next door neighbours car, motorbike, and dog off me. Doesn’t mean I have any right to take them.

unhappys10

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I also worked in a social office one Summer while a student, they'd be in the signing queue and then back again the day the community welfare officer was there getting emergency money for this that and the other, they were probably pocketing near 400 a week, sames ones all the time.
Getting baby equipment and household equipment paid for them.
I remember one came in one week and was after moving house, got money to furnish the house, wouldn't have believed it only the officer told me themselves.
If people knew the half of what goes on...

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A "cultural" blindspot of the State. Flaunting it here boss.

Ten of Swords

Oh yay, another traveller bashing thread

Closed, op banned