Eamon Ryan and that word

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1271056823714545664

I don't see anything particularly wrong here and why the rest of the veg are in such a twist this evening. He was arguing against racism.

If there is anyone in the Dáil who would not have a racist bone in their body it has to be Eamon Ryan.

What you think?

Jim Root

**** in his party quick to jump on the virtue signalling bandwagon. All allied to the contending leadership candidate, of course. Grubby politics, disappointing from the Greens

Rodney Bathgate

Is he looking to lose the GP party leadership election so he doesn’t have to lead the party into government?

I have no time for eamonn ryan and feel he is out of his depth,and completly out of touch


But that was harmless and not worth raising controversy over,i v.much doubt eamonn ryan is a bigot

McMurphy

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

What you think?

Catherine Martin at 7/4 to be the leader in 2021 is almost free cash as far as I can see.

thebaz

What I find annoying is he was trying to highlight a case of racism , not the other way round, probably thought using the word would give the issue more emphasis - he made a mistake - he apologised - move on - but the easily offended are up in arms -
Maybe I've been de-sensitised by listening to all that West coast Hip-Hop - and having actually lived in multi-cultural environment abroad and socialising and being actual friends of people from all different backgrounds.

Kermit.de.frog

McMurphy wrote: »

Catherine Martin at 7/4 to be the leader in 2021 is almost free cash as far as I can see.

Who?

Zeek12

There is clearly a vocal, and seemingly quite sizable cohort in that party who didn't want him as leader long before this.

Tweeting like mad with their "disgust" this evening.
Shameless political opportunism in action imo.

His speech may have been misguided. But to suggest the man is a bigot is a misrepresentation.

Theres something inherently sanctimonious and dare I say smug about many in that party.
I look forward to seeing their next adventure in coalition end as abruptly as their last.

James Brown

He wasn't being racist. It's context. He was an idiot to use it though. Did he think people wouldn't know what the 'N' stood for?
I think Catherine Martin's chances just improved.

coinop

Don't see the problem with saying n!gger in a quote context but I'm quite happy to play along with the outrage mob to watch the Greens tear themselves apart.

gifted

I detest the green party and have no time for that fruitcake ryan....but I don't like seeing a man being punished for that.

biko

The Irish are the blacks of Europe.
And Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland.
And the Northside Dubliners are the blacks of Dublin.
So say it once and say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud.

RandomViewer

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ne38vIELzNI

He's happy to defend the indefensible

emo72

He could have made his point as eloquently without using the N word.

Can he not afford advisors?

NIMAN

This really is a can of worms.

I think in context it is fine to actually say the word.

I find it strange to see a black teenager on the tv trying to make a point and seeing them say "a guy in the street called me the N word".

Surely if anyone is allowed to actually utter the word it would be such a person trying to show how they are racially abused. The fact that even they are afraid to say it shows how silly it has all become.

patsman07

Was it bravery or stupidity? Surely he knew the reaction this would provoke?

If he thinks it's a bit ridiculous/racist that white people can't use the word but black people can, then fair play.
If he was ignorant of this then he's even more incompetent than I thought.

It's not bigoted, racist or offensive to quote somebody, in my humble opinion.

CageWager

Sometimes you see people not just shoot themselves in the foot but blow their entire leg off. Maria Bailey springs to mind, now this Eamon Ryan N-Word business. Do these people not have an iota of sense in their head or have they lost all touch with reality?

double jobbing

JK Rowling

Graham Linehan

Eamon Ryan


Always satisfying to see some eejit be the wokest of the woke for years, then not read PC Quarterly and blurt out something outdated or inappropriate and proceed to be cannibalized by their own movement.

ChikiChiki

A browse of Twitter shows it is full of the usual virtue signalling **** this evening.

Always the same geebags.

TheRiverman

Some of his bizzare rantings on climate change and environmental issues are a lot worse.

RandomViewer

Green party imploding?

Mad_maxx

that tosser cllr peter kavanagh was on radio this evening , expressing his disgust towards ryan

its now become a competition to see who is the most virtuous , even where absolutely no malice exists ( like here ) , the PC puritans call for their own salem witch trials

the WOKE ayatollahs want even the meekest of the meek hung drawn and quartered

hotmail.com

Eamon is a loose cannon and an idiot. He isn't fit for government.

He was useless around the time of the bank guarantee as well.

JRant

Ryan has many faults, his main one being his love of dipping his hand into workers salaries to fund stupid ideas. That said, his speech was heartfelt and genuine.

Rodney Bathgate

biko wrote: »

The Irish are the blacks of Europe.
And Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland.
And the Northside Dubliners are the blacks of Dublin.
So say it once and say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud.

What about the actual Blacks of Northside Dublin?

gifted

hotmail.com wrote: »

Eamon is a loose cannon and an idiot. He isn't fit for government.

He was useless around the time of the bank guarantee as well.

He was downright irresponsible and should be held to account, as well as a lot of others.

Spanish Eyes

I really wonder if any of the critics actually heard the speech? Far too quick to focus on the N word out of context. But that’s the way now... be the first out of the starting blocks to get WOKE likes.

I’m heartily sick of all this woke stuff now. But it’s fashionable I suppose.and there is not a MSM here that will point out the reality of what was said.

I woul never vote Green BTW.

NIMAN

I suppose 7% reduction in emissions is the least of his worries now.

walshb

No different than people on radio or tv using the f word (if describing something or someone that said it) when they don’t need to. Simple f word description will suffice. They deliberately try to be edgy and a bit controversial..

Rodney Bathgate

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I really wonder if any of the critics actually heard the speech? Far too quick to focus on the N word out of context. But that’s the way now... be the first out of the starting blocks to get WOKE likes.

I’m heartily sick of all this woke stuff now. But it’s fashionable I suppose.and there is not a MSM here that will point out the reality of what was said.

I woul never vote Green BTW.

As someone said earlier, the most vocal politician are the ones who are backing Murphy for the party leadership. Purely coincidental of course.

hotmail.com

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I really wonder if any of the critics actually heard the speech? Far too quick to focus on the N word out of context. But that’s the way now... be the first out of the starting blocks to get WOKE likes.

I’m heartily sick of all this woke stuff now. But it’s fashionable I suppose.and there is not a MSM here that will point out the reality of what was said.

I woul never vote Green BTW.

The question now is that clearly Eamon is a liability and keeps putting his foot in his mouth. It's embarrassing for the party.

Catherine Martin doesn't really have to do much. Her chances of becoming leader are much better now.

JL555

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1271056823714545664

I don't see anything particularly wrong here and why the rest of the veg are in such a twist this evening. He was arguing against racism.

If there is anyone in the Dáil who would not have a racist bone in their body it has to be Eamon Ryan.

What you think?

I think his use of the term 'othered' is cringeworthy and offensive to my ears. When he said the N word he said it like the word was going to slap him if he said with any sort of conviction. This clown is going to part of the next government.

StackSteevens

patsman07 wrote: »

Was it bravery or stupidity? Surely he knew the reaction this would provoke?

If he thinks it's a bit ridiculous/racist that white people can't use the word but black people can, then fair play.
If he was ignorant of this then he's even more incompetent than I thought.

It's not bigoted, racist or offensive to quote somebody, in my humble opinion.

So would you share my view that he should have stood over what he had said, rather than yielding to the predictable avalanch of faux outrage from the usual suspects and apologising?

hotmail.com

StackSteevens wrote: »

So would you share my view that he should have stood over what he had said, rather than yielding to the predictable avalanch of faux outrage from the usual suspects and apologising?

The outrage on this occasion is coming from his own supporters it seems. I'm not sure anyone else cares.

Rodney Bathgate

NIMAN wrote: »

I suppose 7% reduction in emissions is the least of his worries now.

Keeping his mouth shut would probably contribute half of that reduction.

kippy

I feel dirty providing this with more coverage it deserves but this is just a whole pile of nonsense when the state is in the depths of a major financial meltdown and not a government formed in the past four months to sort it out, as well as the multitude of other issues this country has going on anyway

StackSteevens

hotmail.com wrote: »

The outrage on this occasion is coming from his own supporters it seems. I'm not sure anyone else cares.

And, seeing as they won't accept his apology, issuing it didn't make any difference. He should have stuck to his guns and shown a bit of bottle.

Spanish Eyes

Ryan obviously cannot afford “advisers”. You know, to tell him what to say and write his Woke, right on speeches.

But he will not be leader of the Greens for long I reckon. And I hope the Greens head off into the sunset very soon.

Their policies are only useful for the rich, and those who do not fear lots of punitive tax measures, oh and cyclists of course. Lol

Sono Topolino

The norm for years now is that there is no context in which using the n-word is ok for a non-black person. That’s the norm and the fact that Ryan didn’t seem to know this while giving a speech about racism is pathetic.

There was no malice intended and no feelings of anger warranted. I just wonder what other things he talks about with such conviction despite being completely ignorant of them.

He's standing in Dail Eireann making a fine anti-racism speech and he still ends up considered a racist. Madness.

The response to his apology was as bad - "This is a good first step but now you need to do x, y and z." and other such cobblers.

KaneToad

...double....

KaneToad

... another error...

KaneToad

Foot in mouth is a common thing for politicians

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fg-leader-storm-after-******-joke-26243837.html

James Brown

StackSteevens wrote: »

So would you share my view that he should have stood over what he had said, rather than yielding to the predictable avalanch of faux outrage from the usual suspects and apologising?

He was right to apologise. Simply because the word is offensive and even though he used it out of stupidity, it's still offensive.
It's not about appeasing the 'permanently outraged' or what ever term the bigots of the new age are using, it's about holding his hand up.

Finty Lemon

hotmail.com wrote: »

The question now is that clearly Eamon is a liability and keeps putting his foot in his mouth. It's embarrassing for the party.

Catherine Martin doesn't really have to do much. Her chances of becoming leader are much better now.

She needs to drop the insistence on appointing her brother AG in any new government for a start. Its a sticking point for FG. I thought the GP were above nepotism but sure there you go

Dyr

Sono Topolino wrote: »

The norm for years now is that there is no context in which using the n-word is ok for a non-black person. That’s the norm and the fact that Ryan didn’t seem to know this while giving a speech about racism is pathetic.

I think we've had enough of that Voldemort bollixology at this stage.

Rodney Bathgate

KaneToad wrote: »

Foot in mouth is a common thing for politicians

Is the issue that she implied her staff were lazy?

abff

Storm in a teacup. Absolutely ridiculous over the top reaction. Primarily by the permanently outraged and those with a political agenda.

bfa1509

What I want to know is, who in the Dail said it 16 years ago?

Do they have a flip chart in the Dail bar "It's been X days since the last n-bomb"

Spanish Eyes

Jaysus soon those masks will ensure we say NOTHING anymore for fear of offending anyone..

It has gone too far now. The vast majority of people are not racist, they live and let live. I don’t get all this hype at all.

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/LornaBogue/status/1271092560413540352

This Green Party councillor has the same "privilege" as Eamon which I guess means being white.