Another Lamb violently butchered to death by mysterious killer

Computer Science Student

Another lamb was barbarically murdered in cold blood last night in Wicklow near the Newcastle area. This is the second fatal killing of a lamb in as many weeks. Locals in the area are terrified and there is a real sense that there may be a very dangerous predator in their ranks as clearly this is the act of a deranged lunatic.

Such a crime in isolation is hideous by all accounts, but to see it reoccur within a short period of time is a pattern that is worryingly in line with the development of a maniac killer. If the bloody exploits of this delinquent continue to go unpunished, there is no telling where the trajectory of his murderous rampaging may take him. This needs to be nipped in the bud right away as there is too much evidence and hindsight to not jump to a horrifying conclusion for this case. Hopefully the person at large can be brought to justice speedily.

https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2020/0609/1146363-wicklow-lambs/

JoeFritzl

This is absolutely awful. My aunt lives in the area and said they're all very distraught over this. It's been happening a few times now, more than what's been reported, and the MO appears the be consistent. They're primarily worried these people are going to move onto bigger animals or perhaps people. I don't think there's any evidence they've been consuming the animals, it seems to be a crime of pleasure which is worrying to me. I'm really concerned about this.

We should keep in mind that the families in this area are pretty traumatized over these events. Out of respect we shouldn't name anyone and perhaps be a little careful with how we discuss the events in this thread. Take this as a warning because I don't want to have to repeat myself later in the thread.

Mantis Toboggan

Absolutely tragic, this really is baad.

Wonder what Hud Hastings will have to say about all of this.

MickyPearse

Can't understand the lack of coverage on this. This was a rotten act committed by a deranged individual who is only getting started.

There is a real sense of fear in Wicklow at the moment. Locals are afraid to leave their homes at night. They have a shocking history of producing serial killers and it looks like they may have a new one.

David “Jesus” Lawler still living in that area? Wasn't he released not long ago. Cousins with Larry too. I hope its just a coincidence.

MickyPearse

https://wicklownews.net/2014/04/baltinglass-killer-set-to-be-free/

Caledonia

It was on 9 o’clock news earlier v long segment.
Any chance killed for meat?!

Computer Science Student

MickyPearse wrote: »

https://wicklownews.net/2014/04/baltinglass-killer-set-to-be-free/

Interesting. Although in my opinion the maniac is likely a novice offender mustering up the courage to go after a human. Jesus Lawler is more of a seasoned criminal.

JoeFritzl

Caledonia wrote: »

It was on 9 o’clock news earlier v long segment.
Any chance killed for meat?!

No, the animal was on medication so it wouldn't be suitable to eat. Also the particular sheep in question wouldn't have had much meat, it could hardly be worth their while doing that. Apparently it was a complete mess everywhere so they mustn't have known what they were doing.

MickyPearse

Computer Science Student wrote: »

Interesting. Although in my opinion the maniac is likely a novice offender mustering up the courage to go after a human. Jesus Lawler is more of a seasoned criminal.

I've done more digging. Another relation returned from Oz during the lockdown. Right before these deranged acts were committed.

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wicklowpeople/news/murphys-cousin-jailed-after-oral-sex-assault-27853129.html

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5524250/gardai-wicklow-investigate-lamb-stolen-butchered/

Still waters

Probably just for meat if there was nothing only head and skin left behind, it happened around here years ago, it turned out it was a man living on his own used go out and grab a couple of lambs every so often for the dinner

JoeFritzl

Still waters wrote: »

Probably just for meat if there was nothing only head and skin left behind, it happened around here years ago, it turned out it was a man living on his own used go out and grab a couple of lambs every so often for the dinner

I can't see how an old man would be accessing this farm? If that were the case he'd be killing ones nearby. This was in the middle of acres of land owned by the family in question, and it wasn't exactly 'easily accessible'. This is the work of a dangerous individual who is progressing through the ranks of psychopathy until he inevitably harms a little child and he won't stop killing until he is caught.

Doctors room ghost

JoeFritzl wrote: »

No, the animal was on medication so it wouldn't be suitable to eat. Also the particular sheep in question wouldn't have had much meat, it could hardly be worth their while doing that. Apparently it was a complete mess everywhere so they mustn't have known what they were doing.

It literally says in the news article that all that was left was the head and the hide.
The lamb was definitely killed and butchered for its meat.its an act of poaching the same as what happens with deer every other night of the year.

FintanMcluskey

While it is inhumane and illegal whats happened its not murder and rather likely a couple of dudes pilfering meat.

If we had another psycho on our hands they would torture it and not leave only head and skin.

Happened before, more regularly in the UK.

FintanMcluskey

JoeFritzl wrote: »

No, the animal was on medication so it wouldn't be suitable to eat. Also the particular sheep in question wouldn't have had much meat, it could hardly be worth their while doing that. Apparently it was a complete mess everywhere so they mustn't have known what they were doing.

Under no circumstances would that be evident to anyone only the herdowner

Still waters

JoeFritzl wrote: »

I can't see how an old man would be accessing this farm? If that were the case he'd be killing ones nearby. This was in the middle of acres of land owned by the family in question, and it wasn't exactly 'easily accessible'. This is the work of a dangerous individual who is progressing through the ranks of psychopathy until he inevitably harms a little child and he won't stop killing until he is caught.

You seem to know more than you're letting on, do tell us more

MickyPearse

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

It literally says in the news article that all that was left was the head and the hide.
The lamb was definitely killed and butchered for its meat.its an act of poaching the same as what happens with deer every other night of the year.

It was a disgusting act and to brand it as basic poacher case is an insult. I hope if he is caught the judge sees it as more than just that. Whoever did this is a sick psychopath and needs to be locked up.

Doctors room ghost

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Under no circumstances would that be evident to anyone only the herdowner

Exactly.they were probably clicked for maggots. The poacher would have no idea about this.40 day withdrawl on that.any luck it will sicken the poachers after a feed and put a halt to them

Doctors room ghost

MickyPearse wrote: »

It was a disgusting act and to brand it as basic poacher case is an insult. I hope if he is caught the judge sees it as more than just that. Whoever did this is a sick psychopath and needs to be locked up.

Yes it’s wrong of the person to do it and the lamb should be slaughtered in an approved abattoir in a humane manner but the theory that it’s a psychotic killer on the loose is nonsense.
It’s someone out killing lambs for food for either themselves or to sell on and I’d guess they have experience as a butcher and hunter.
It happens with deer all the time

Figel Narage

Christ, as pretty much a Wicklow native, why are there so many weird people here?

Serial killers, rapists, whatever else

JoeFritzl

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Under no circumstances would that be evident to anyone only the herdowner

You don't just happen upon a private farm with sheep and opportunistically decide to kill one. This was clearly planned, it's a difficult field to access, I know farm, no idea where the field is, it's a large farm and difficult to access, lots of briars and the likes.

Computer Science Student

Some of the rhetoric on this thread would be the very reason we are seeing the act being repeated. Authorities didn't clamp down on this savage the first time, of course he would seek out his thrill again with no consequences.

JoeFritzl

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Yes it’s wrong of the person to do it and the lamb should be slaughtered in an approved abattoir in a humane manner but the theory that it’s a psychotic killer on the loose is nonsense.
It’s someone out killing lambs for food for either themselves or to sell on and I’d guess they have experience as a butcher and hunter.
It happens with deer all the time

With the mess they left behind I can't see that being a butcher. It wasn't as clean cut as the news perhaps made it out to be. There was blood, guts and pieces of meat all over the field from what I've heard.

BorneTobyWilde

JoeFritzl wrote: »

No, the animal was on medication so it wouldn't be suitable to eat.

They added that bit in, as farmers do


'' this land is poisoned''


'' on of these Strawberries is poisoned''

''the animal was on medication''

'' Bull in field ''




All to scare off people from doing it again.

Computer Science Student

What is the agenda of the media to play this down and not even mention that it may be the act of a sordid sadist.

Computer Science Student

Some more media picking up on it now at least https://www.thesun.ie/news/5524250/gardai-wicklow-investigate-lamb-stolen-butchered/
Although they are implementing their own Spin, as they typically do.

JoeFritzl

Computer Science Student wrote: »

Some more media picking up on it now at least https://www.thesun.ie/news/5524250/gardai-wicklow-investigate-lamb-stolen-butchered/
Although they are implementing their own Spin, as they typically do.

Ah yes, the media spinning a web of illusions. The fact is there's a sad and twisted individual out there who is eyeing up his next target. We need to push this out and make sure Wicklow town is locked down. He's probably a serial killer around the Wicklow mountains who couldn't get his fix due to this lockdown, and is now acting out against sheep.

Computer Science Student

"Installed cctv"

If you ask me, the Gardai should be down there patrolling the area during the nights.

archer22

You would want to be extremely fit to catch a lamb in a large field on your own.

Either there were several people involved or the lamb was shot...which does point to a poacher.

The countryside in Ireland is alive with those bastards every night and sweet bugger all is being done about it.

Computer Science Student

archer22 wrote: »

You would want to be extremely fit to catch a lamb in a large field on your own.

Either there were several people involved or the lamb was shot...which does point to a poacher.

The countryside in Ireland is alive with those bastards every night and sweet bugger all is being done about it.

I think that indicated that the culprit was someone familiar to the lambs - perhaps the son of one of the local farmers.

davo2001

JoeFritzl wrote: »

I can't see how an old man would be accessing this farm? If that were the case he'd be killing ones nearby. This was in the middle of acres of land owned by the family in question, and it wasn't exactly 'easily accessible'. This is the work of a dangerous individual who is progressing through the ranks of psychopathy until he inevitably harms a little child and he won't stop killing until he is caught.

You've been watching too much Dexter.

bb12

eh a few people sound just a tad hysterical here. definitely butchered for meat. same thing happened a few years ago in north co dublin except it was with cows. only head and hides left. think they killed them with crossbows if i remember rightly

MickyPearse

JoeFritzl wrote: »

Ah yes, the media spinning a web of illusions. The fact is there's a sad and twisted individual out there who is eyeing up his next target. We need to push this out and make sure Wicklow town is locked down. He's probably a serial killer around the Wicklow mountains who couldn't get his fix due to this lockdown, and is now acting out against sheep.

It does feel like the media are trying to play it down. Was the head not found burnt at the other end of the field? The local radio reporter appeared to suggest that some sort of satanic ritual took place

Dank Janniels

Probably one of them bush men/ survivalist type people honing their skills perhaps?

Computer Science Student

To butcher a great big cow for meat is one thing, but a tiny innocent lamb would hardly be worth the while of a professional meat pilfering crime network. What we're looking at here is certainly someone who enjoys going under the cover of darkness and carrying out the heinous act. They probably are getting a thrill from the coverage and the terrorising of their locality.

Mantis Toboggan

Can't beat a bit of roast lamb, delicious.

ZX7R

Computer Science Student wrote: »

To butcher a great big cow for meat is one thing, but a tiny innocent lamb would hardly be worth the while of a professional meat pilfering crime network. What we're looking at here is certainly someone who enjoys going under the cover of darkness and carrying out the heinous act. They probably are getting a thrill from the coverage and the terrorising of their locality.

It's two lambs , definitely an over exaggeration of a professional meat pilfering crime network.
Definitely just someone poaching for some meat.
They left the head and hide behind classic skining of a kill ,guts and entrails left behind normal as these would cause the meat to foul , remains spread around the field of course it would be.
Fox's , grey crows would be in like a shot to feed on the remains and scatter them.
Personally I would saw young pochers as they left the remains in the field rather than remove it and butcher elsewhere in a tree line or bramble ditch so wild life would cover up the evidence.
Also definitely person's that know the lay of the land , just because the famer says the field is hard to access , that is exactly what a poucher would look for.
Hate to have to tell you this happens every year it doesn't make the news why , because it's not news worthy.
Must have been a Quite day for rte news to report about it, but at least it's different news to the 24/7 virus reporting.

TheBoyConor

This talk of serial killers in the making and a prelude to some sort of imminent Wicklow Moors Murders is sensationalist drivel the likes that the Daily Mail would put out.

This is definitely just some opportunistic poaching for meat, as other posters have said. leaving the head and hide and entrails behind is textbook hunting. The carcass was taken away for the meat. Wildlife then scatters the entrails.
My guess is that it is a neighbour who knows the lay of the land up there or perhaps foreigners who are into hunting.

Why would a serial killer butcher the animal (butcher as in for purposes of meat) and then take away the carcass? It would make no sense.
Sure by that logic perhaps it is not only a serial killer but a serial killing cannibal we have in the making in Wicklow.

MickyPearse

TheBoyConor wrote: »

This talk of serial killers in the making and a prelude to some sort of imminent Wicklow Moors Murders is sensationalist drivel the likes that the Daily Mail would put out.

This is definitely just some opportunistic poaching for meat, as other posters have said. leaving the head and hide and entrails behind is textbook hunting. The carcass was taken away for the meat. Wildlife then scatters the entrails.
My guess is that it is a neighbour who knows the lay of the land up there or perhaps foreigners who are into hunting.

Why would a serial killer butcher the animal (butcher as in for purposes of meat) and then take away the carcass? It would make no sense.
Sure by that logic perhaps it is not only a serial killer but a serial killing cannibal we have in the making in Wicklow.

I'm not going to entertain the idea of a serial killing cannibal but its not impossible.

Hopefully the guards catch the predator before it happens again. Charge them and get their DNA in the system. We've had plenty of missing women over the years and its very easy to blame them all on Larry without evidence. Plenty of other sickos around and we need to monitor them too.

ZX7R

MickyPearse wrote: »

I'm not going to entertain the idea of a serial killing cannibal but its not impossible.

Hopefully the guards catch the predator before it happens again. Charge them and get their DNA in the system. We've had plenty of missing women over the years and its very easy to blame them all on Larry without evidence. Plenty of other sickos around and we need to monitor them too.

That's sum jump serial killing cannibal.
But I guess it's possible another sheep has mastered how to use a knife and butcher and eat it's fellow young.
Evolution is a funny thing ha

JoeFritzl

ZX7R wrote: »

That's sum jump serial killing cannibal.
But I guess it's possible another sheep has mastered how to use a knife and butcher and eat it's fellow young.
Evolution is a funny thing ha

He's not wrong. A lot of the locals are saying it's probably a young person due to the inexperienced fashion in which the sheep was butchered. Imagine a young adolescent doing this now? It's not unrealistic to imagine that they will move onto a human, and if they're eating this sheep now, then what would stop them from eating their human victims?

Dial Hard

Some of you really need to calm down.

Tabnabs

Same thing happens in Britain https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/sheep-lambs-decapitated-bodies-stolen-16762571 stolen for the meat.

I remember reading about a crowd from Romania being arrested for this type of thing in Yorkshire.

ZX7R

JoeFritzl wrote: »

He's not wrong. A lot of the locals are saying it's probably a young person due to the inexperienced fashion in which the sheep was butchered. Imagine a young adolescent doing this now? It's not unrealistic to imagine that they will move onto a human, and if they're eating this sheep now, then what would stop them from eating their human victims?

I have an avid interest in serial killers in general and an amateur interest in the behavioural psychology of them.
If you want to think along those lines the excitement for the person would be in the hunt not the actual killing the butchering and supposed eating would be a ritual act of consuming the kill to aquire the strength or soul of the kill.

I am originally from near the area and lived most of my childhood and early adult live there.
I'm more in case to believe the rumor that dogs were used in the kill targeting Pacific sheep and then we're butchered and fed to the dogs

JCDUB

JoeFritzl wrote: »

We should keep in mind that the families in this area are pretty traumatized over these events. Out of respect we shouldn't name anyone and perhaps be a little careful with how we discuss the events in this thread. Take this as a warning because I don't want to have to repeat myself later in the thread.

JoeFritzl wrote: »

This is the work of a dangerous individual who is progressing through the ranks of psychopathy until he inevitably harms a little child and he won't stop killing until he is caught.

JoeFritzl wrote: »

There was blood, guts and pieces of meat all over the field from what I've heard.

JoeFritzl wrote: »

The fact is there's a sad and twisted individual out there who is eyeing up his next target. We need to push this out and make sure Wicklow town is locked down. He's probably a serial killer around the Wicklow mountains who couldn't get his fix due to this lockdown, and is now acting out against sheep.

JoeFritzl wrote: »

Imagine a young adolescent doing this now? It's not unrealistic to imagine that they will move onto a human, and if they're eating this sheep now, then what would stop them from eating their human victims?

Wow, wow and wow.

Who needs red tops when we have our very own Poirot solving the case of the cannibal, child-killing, blood-thirsty dangerous individual who is "progressing through the ranks of psychopathy?"

You need to get your head out of the fantasy genre you live in and come back to the real world before it's too late.

It's clear you enjoy sensationalism.

To be honest, you come across as stranger than the person committing these acts to me.

gizabeer

JoeFritzl wrote: »

He's not wrong. A lot of the locals are saying it's probably a young person due to the inexperienced fashion in which the sheep was butchered. Imagine a young adolescent doing this now? It's not unrealistic to imagine that they will move onto a human, and if they're eating this sheep now, then what would stop them from eating their human victims?

LOL , Get a grip

JoeFritzl

ZX7R wrote: »

I have an avid interest in serial killers in general and an amateur interest in the behavioural psychology of them.
If you want to think along those lines the excitement for the person would be in the hunt not the actual killing the butchering and supposed eating would be a ritual act of consuming the kill to aquire the strength or soul of the kill.

I am originally from near the area and lived most of my childhood and early adult live there.
I'm more in case to believe the rumor that dogs were used in the kill targeting Pacific sheep and then we're butchered and fed to the dogs

The serial killer could be motivated by the act of butchering? We really have no idea who this person is, and they are doing it again and again. The fact it is geographically located near the last known locations of several missing people has to be a worrying factor.

ZX7R

JoeFritzl wrote: »

The serial killer could be motivated by the act of butchering? We really have no idea who this person is, and they are doing it again and again. The fact it is geographically located near the last known locations of several missing people has to be a worrying factor.

No not worrying at all ,I wait until more factual evidence is produced to move in that direction of thinking

JoeFritzl

ZX7R wrote: »

No not worrying at all ,I wait until more factual evidence is produced to move in that direction of thinking

You think it made RTE news because some random lamb got slaughtered? Mate, get a grip! This is like the 6th time it's happened in this area over the lockdown, the person doing it has a serious problem.

TheBoyConor

I bet it's......FARGO BOYLE!

fúckin' hell!

ZX7R

JoeFritzl wrote: »

You think it made RTE news because some random lamb got slaughtered? Mate, get a grip! This is like the 6th time it's happened in this area over the lockdown, the person doing it has a serious problem.

It made rte news because they had nothing better to air.
2nd time for the famer in question
I do have a grip it's called reality
All the evidence points to poachers taking some meat for the pot.

MickyPearse

TheBoyConor wrote: »

I bet it's......FARGO BOYLE!

fúckin' hell!

The satanic ritual of bruning the head would rule him out. This was a young up and coming serial killer.