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How far do you hit your clubs?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Euphoriasean


    etxp wrote: »
    Driver 240 yards
    3 wood 215 yards
    3 hybrid 200 yards
    4 iron 185 yards
    5 iron 175 yards
    6 iron 165 yards
    7 iron 155 yards
    8 iron 145 yards
    9 iron 130 yards
    Pw 115 yards
    50 Gw 100 yards
    56 SW 85 yards
    60 LW 70 yards

    I’m pretty much the same as this Rikand with a few tweaks. Have gone up 5 yards on everything from this time last year due to some fitness improvements

    Would be bang on this also. Interesting graph from super speed golf.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CA_fqioh44b/


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭billy3sheets


    GreeBo wrote: »
    You are probably teeing the ball up too high, you want it no more than half an inch for your irons, arguably even less.

    No, I tee it low. I mainly find it with the longer irons. Sometimes the quality of the strike is not the best. Sometimes the strike is good but the ball flight is high and the wind catches it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭JCDUB


    Would be bang on this also. Interesting graph from super speed golf.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CA_fqioh44b/

    I don't get this. What do the numbers across the top mean?

    Need some context to work it out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    JCDUB wrote: »
    I don't get this. What do the numbers across the top mean?

    Need some context to work it out.

    Swing speed across the top


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    No, I tee it low. I mainly find it with the longer irons. Sometimes the quality of the strike is not the best. Sometimes the strike is good but the ball flight is high and the wind catches it.

    You might have too much weight on your back foot when backswinging and on your forward swing. That can also lead to a slice too but I’d lean towards that being it if you’re saying you tee it low.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 398 ✭✭Skyfloater


    Swing speed across the top

    FL is correct and just to be clear, it's Driver swing speed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,396 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I'm pretty much like Rikand, except double his handicap Not long not short, my strength is I'm straight. Nice to hear someone can get to 6 without being overly long, gives me hope. Go Rikand! I assume your short game is pretty strong?

    I'm definitely shorter than my low HC friends and there is no doubt that this is partly the reason why they're lower. Much easier to come in with a 7 or 8 instead of a 5. But to be honest its not just their length, they're just better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,774 ✭✭✭maddness


    I play off 12 and hit the ball a long way, probably further than most off similar handicaps. I’d swap it for a better short game though. It really doesn’t matter how far each club makes the ball go, only the amount of times you uses them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭MarcusP12


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Just thought I'd add these so people can take an honest look at themselves.
    These are Tigers average distances from end 2019.

    DRIVER: 297 YARDS
    3-WOOD: 265 YARDS
    5-WOOD: 245 YARDS
    3-IRON: 227 YARDS
    4-IRON: 215 YARDS
    5-IRON: 200 YARDS
    6-IRON: 186 YARDS
    7-IRON: 170 YARDS
    8-IRON: 157 YARDS
    9-IRON: 148 YARDS
    PITCHING WEDGE: 136 YARDS
    SAND WEDGE: 118 YARDS

    If you are hitting your 9i 160+ yards then you are likely delofting it and only fooling yourself imo.

    A few comments around the above....I don't think its beyond the reals of possibility that a good mid/low handicapper can hit as far as a pro down to maybe mid iron direction when you consider that a lot of pros hit clubs that are higher in loft than a game improvement iron of the same number.

    Here's my take based on my own experience. As i mentioned previously, i played ping zings as a decent junior and until very recently when i changed and got back into the game after a few years out. What i found was that down to maybe 6/7 i could hit the ball a mile compared to my friends and these numbers would compare favourably against pros for the loft reason in hindsight. But the main reason was probably that i was very confident with my short/mid irons so used to "hammer" them. Swing speed = distance to a point, right? But as you move down the clubs, i wasn't anywhere near as confident and rightly or wrongly, would swing slower thinking it was more controlled only to find that my gapping was all over the place once i went beyond 6 iron. Basically i was hitting a 6/7 iron as far as a 5 iron and probably more accurately.

    Also, with regards the woods, i think its probably the same story with irons and woods. Good amature golfer can keep pace with pro down to maybe mid irons but then from long irons to drivers, pros obviously come into their own with distance....i'm wondering if amatures just can't get the club head speed necessary to generate the distances but might be more confident hammering shorter irons. I would also say, without being able to provide any references, that pros tend to swing within themselves for their irons for distance and shape control but when it comes to the longer clubs, they use their full potential as swing speed and distance is king rather than accuracy that maybe a slower more controlled swing might give instead......

    So in summary, i don't think its unreasonable for a decent amature to have stock yardages comparable to a pro down to mid iron but beyond that, pros on average will pull away......

    The delofting thing might be true but if that person hitting 160+ with a 9 iron has consistent gapping from short to say mid iron, who cares? if it works for them, then all power to them....i don't think any amature every has said they are as good as a pro just because they might be able to hit as far for certain clubs...its just a mildly interesting thing that amatures like to grasp at that they might have something in common with the players they see on the TV....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭MarcusP12


    maddness wrote: »
    I play off 12 and hit the ball a long way, probably further than most off similar handicaps. I’d swap it for a better short game though. It really doesn’t matter how far each club makes the ball go, only the amount of times you uses them.

    Same....when i was decent, i hit a lot of greens and didn't need a good short game, just to be solid with the putts....different now and would give anything for a decent short game....the amount of shots i lose through duffed/bladded chips is a joke...ironically, with the lockdown and unusually good weather, i've been able to practice chipping in the back garden so i'm looking forward to seeing if it makes a decent.....for the number of times i need to chip in a round, if i converted even a quarter of them to up and downs, i'd instantly take 3/4 shots off my typical gross compared to what usually happens.....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭mighty magpie


    In the last week i've hit two perfect 4 irons. One went 266 and the other went 174.

    I work off 125 carry for PW and take it from there usually.

    Edit: Looking at the table above, it's pretty spot on for me. I'm around 105-108 driver swing. The only difference is that i've an RBZ stage 2 hybrid that goes a mile, it'll be the next club out though as it is too close to my 3 wood. Will change for a ping g410 hybrid that fits in well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 346 ✭✭frink


    I'd probably be longer than some of similar handicap but I'd happily sacrifice length to have a better chipping technique. I'd rarely hit a full PW and below but these would be fair estimates

    Measured in Yards
    Dr 270
    3W 250
    2Hybrid 240
    4I 230
    5I 215
    6I 200
    7I 185
    8I 170
    9I 155
    PW 140
    GW 125
    SW 110


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭Golf is my Game


    frink wrote: »
    I'd probably be longer than some of similar handicap but I'd happily sacrifice length to have a better chipping technique. I'd rarely hit a full PW and below but these would be fair estimates

    Measured in Yards
    Dr 270
    3W 250
    2Hybrid 240
    4I 230
    5I 215
    6I 200
    7I 185
    8I 170
    9I 155
    PW 140
    GW 125
    SW 110

    Still category 1 though presumably, which is a good level. Theres also more than just chipping which could be holding you back. Putting, general strategy to playing it cute or just going for the big shot kinda stuff, then theres how you handle yourself under pressure when a big score is on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭BigChap1759


    RoadRunner wrote: »
    Summertime estimates
    carry
    58 84m (sometimes 150m :mad:)
    54 97m
    50 110m
    pw 128m (46degree)
    9i 137m
    8i 146m
    7i 154m
    6i 161m
    5i 169m
    4i 178m
    below is carry PLUS roll avg off a tee
    2i 210ish
    3w 240ish
    1w 270ish

    (My problems only really begin at 5 metres and in)


    Meters...........:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭BigChap1759


    Carry Distances


    Dr 250/260
    3W 230
    3 Hybrid 215
    4I 205
    5I 188
    6I 172
    7I 160
    8I 150
    9I 140
    PW 130
    52 115
    SW 105
    60 90


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,430 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    I think there are a lot of amateurs who get caught up in longest hit vs typical/average hit. I'm not long, but enough to get by

    10 handicap (distance in yrds, typical hit, from GameGolf):

    DR 230
    5W 200 (new club, only a handful of hits in winter conditions
    4H 192
    5I 176
    6I 163
    7I 155
    8I 133 (rarely hit this as a full club, more a controlled approach, so skews down a bit)
    9I 132
    PW 119 (similar to 8I, would rather hit my PW 110 than my AW 110, even though I can hit both that distance)
    AW 111
    SW 69 (almost never full)
    LW 54 (as above)

    If I go longest on each my numbers look close to some of you lot on here maybe :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,003 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Current carry distances (i.e summer, winter would take 1-2 clubs off)


    DRIVER: 240 M
    3-WOOD: 210 M
    19* H: 200 M

    4-IRON: 185 M
    5-IRON: 175 M
    6-IRON: 165 M
    7-IRON: 150 M
    8-IRON: 140 M
    9-IRON: 125 M
    PW: 110 M
    52*: 90 M
    56*: 80 M
    60* : 65 M


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,336 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Rikand wrote: »
    6 handicap

    Driver 240 yards
    3 wood 215 yards
    3 iron 200 yards
    4 iron 190 yards
    5 iron 175 yards
    6 iron 165 yards
    7 iron 155 yards
    8 iron 145 yards
    9 iron 130 yards
    Pw 115 yards
    50 Gw 100 yards
    54 Gw 85 yards
    58 gw 70 yards

    I'm not super long but I'm not super short either. I'm right in the middle of most I'd say and straight as an arrow. I rarely miss fairways

    I hit a drive 295 yards on the 16th in athlone on sunday. The run on the ball is feckin great!

    Oh and a 9 iron from 140 yards(landed it 10 yards short and let it run on) afterwards into 25 feet, lipped out for birdie


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,003 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Rikand wrote: »
    I hit a drive 295 yards on the 16th in athlone on sunday. The run on the ball is feckin great!

    Oh and a 9 iron from 140 yards(landed it 10 yards short and let it run on) afterwards into 25 feet, lipped out for birdie

    Its unreal, such a change from when we left golf back in March.

    Yesterday I hit a drive and wedge to our 410M par 5 14th, back in March it was a Drive, 3 Wood at best.

    One thing that hasnt changed is that I still missed the green with my second... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Whiplash85


    I hit my driver 350 yards the other day. It was playing downwind roughly 10miles an hour. typically I would hit it 300 -320 Yards.
    5 Iron would be lowest club I would use and I can hit that probably 230.
    7 Iron around 205
    PW 145 - 150.

    Pity I cant chip or putt for ****.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭blue note


    The run and hot air is bonkers at the moment. I hit 4 drives in corballis last time i played. On the third hole in winter time it's basically a par 5 that's generally reachable in 2. That day my drive went 290m. If it had been a metre to the right it would have caught a downslope and run another 10-20m and left me a 30m chip to the green. Unfortunately it was heavy links rough that stopped it and I had to hack at it to get it out and it went into other rough. Ended up making a good 5.

    On 16, 2nd longest hole on the course I hit a 295m drive. Stopped less than a foot before the green side bunker.

    It wasn't even a windy day, but the ball just doesn't stop running now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Whiplash85


    blue note wrote: »
    The run and hot air is bonkers at the moment. I hit 4 drives in corballis last time i played. On the third hole in winter time it's basically a par 5 that's generally reachable in 2. That day my drive went 290m. If it had been a metre to the right it would have caught a downslope and run another 10-20m and left me a 30m chip to the green. Unfortunately it was heavy links rough that stopped it and I had to hack at it to get it out and it went into other rough. Ended up making a good 5.

    On 16, 2nd longest hole on the course I hit a 295m drive. Stopped less than a foot before the green side bunker.

    It wasn't even a windy day, but the ball just doesn't stop running now.



    Yeah for a couple of weeks with dried out fairways and hot humid weather we had conditions that wouldn't be out of place on PGA tour where the commentators marvel on Sky about length of drives of some of top professionals. The hot weather changes air density meaning less drag and more lift.

    In the US a researcher said if you carry a ball 250 yards at 22 degrees Celsius it will carry 254 at 32 degrees celsius. In Ireland in Winter and Spring you could be playing in cold conditions anywhere from 4 or 5 degrees celsius to 12 or 13 in the spring. Obviously playing at 20s and much higher in last few weeks means much longer drives.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭DuckSlice


    I have been to the range the last couple of days, I try not to pay any heed to distances on the range as this particular range is always into the wind so I try to just focus on strike.

    My 7 iron distance in play is 155ish, but I cant get it past the 125 yard marker on the range. every other club is about a club down on distance on the range. I presume due to the balls and the wind.
    It's very frustrating, cant get my head around the 7 iron.

    Does anyone know anywhere that will do gap testing in galway?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭kieran.


    Row Labels Average of Ball Speed (mph) Min of Ball Speed (mph) Max of Ball Speed (mph) Min of Carry (yards) Max of Carry (yards) Average of Carry (yards) Average of Back Spin (rpm) Average of Peak Height (yards) Average of Descent Angle (degrees)
    60 73 70 76.0 76 85 80 7224 25.7 54.30
    56 80 79 81.0 95 97 96 5957 26.6 51.20
    52 87 79 93.0 96 117 108 7311 26.5 49.60
    Pw 95 91 97.0 116 127 122 6676 29.3 49.40
    IRON9 102 101 103.0 133 136 134 6931 30.8 49.35
    IRON8 106 103 109.0 142 149 145 5678 27.6 45.68
    IRON7 111 108 115.0 151 162 155 5137 27.8 44.70
    IRON5 115 110 118.0 161 179 172 3704 30.1 43.73
    IRON6 118 117 120.0 172 179 175 3791 29.9 44.47
    IRON4 132 129 134.0 198 208 203 3383 30.5 42.05
    7 wood 136 131 141.0 191 210 202 4545 39.5 48.43
    3 wood 145 143 147.0 202 236 224 2734 22.6 32.95
    Driver 143 136 152.0 211 262 234 2228 28.3 35.74


    Went for a gapping session around 2 years ago. Stuck the results into a pivot table here my distances ! Cahngd my 5 iron to a 5 hybrid because of the numbers !


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Whiplash85 wrote: »
    I hit my driver 350 yards the other day. It was playing downwind roughly 10miles an hour. typically I would hit it 300 -320 Yards.
    5 Iron would be lowest club I would use and I can hit that probably 230.
    7 Iron around 205
    PW 145 - 150.

    Pity I cant chip or putt for ****.

    I presume you're preparing for the Charles Schwab tomorrow?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    It's more appropriate for me to list how far I hit them offline:

    Driver: 80-100 yards

    Irons: 50-80 yards

    Wedges: 20-50 yards

    Putter: 6 inches - 10 feet (depending)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭RoadRunner


    NDWC wrote: »
    It's more appropriate for me to list how far I hit them offline

    ^ lol. This.

    There isn't a simple linear relationship between mis-hits with a lower versus higher swingspeed equating to distance offline.

    A sliced 200y drive misses the centerline by 20 yards, well common knowledge (and simple maths) would suggest the 300 yard drive equivalent with the same mis-hit will be just be 30 yards off the centerline. It's not like that. It's exponential. Doesn't help that's the same spot where the course tightens up on most modern courses. Alright enough with the dechambeau-ing no one likes that guy.

    Please go to the following link to support the lost golf ball replacement fund....


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,248 ✭✭✭slingerz


    I did a gapping session with the pro and track man and to be honest I found that the distances recorded on that were considerably longer than I would play regularly on my home course. For example I might hit a 9i 135M at home but according to track man it was going 147M on average.

    Anyone find track man to overstate your distances


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭BigChap1759


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Its unreal, such a change from when we left golf back in March.

    Yesterday I hit a drive and wedge to our 410M par 5 14th, back in March it was a Drive, 3 Wood at best.

    One thing that hasnt changed is that I still missed the green with my second... :rolleyes:


    Sounds like a long par 4?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Avg Yards Carry

    Driver: 210
    3 Wood: 190
    4 Hy: 180
    5 Hy: 170
    6 Hy: 155
    6 I 27 deg: 145
    7 I 31 deg: 135
    8 I 35 deg: 125
    9 I 39 deg: 115
    PW 43 deg: 105
    47 deg: 95
    52 deg: 80
    58 deg: Don't really hit full shots

    Putter: 1 inch short of the hole.


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