Candy Cab Disassembly/Transport

Cantstandsya

Am hoping to take the plunge and pick up my first cabinet in the next few months.

I’d love a Sega Aero City but my concern is getting it up the stairs to where I want to keep it.

Am sure some of you guys have this cab so am wondering if you could let me know what it’s like to take apart and transport. Could one person do it alone or would it have to be a team effort?

o1s1n

Cantstandsya wrote: »

Am hoping to take the plunge and pick up my first cabinet in the next few months.

I’d love a Sega Aero City but my concern is getting it up the stairs to where I want to keep it.

Am sure some of you guys have this cab so am wondering if you could let me know what it’s like to take apart and transport. Could one person do it alone or would it have to be a team effort?

Main problem with an astro is the control panel is molded to the front of the cabinet, so you've to remove a big panel at the front.

If you took that panel off with the cp and take out the monitor you should be grand

Monitor is a two man job if you want to be safe.

geotrig

CP area can come off in an aero , I'd suggest it's a two man jobif going up stairs easily,2nd heaviest candy cab I've ever moved, made worse as it doesn't have front wheels... (I'm fairly sure it has back wheels)

o1s1n

geotrig wrote: »

CP area can come off in an aero , I'd suggest it's a two man jobif going up stairs easily,2nd heaviest candy cab I've ever moved, made worse as it doesn't have front wheels... (I'm fairly sure it has back wheels)

Ah I read it as astro and not aero! Apologies OP!

Jaysus the aero Is another beast altogether, I could barely get that in the front door :eek:

Edit - just to note that's a weight issue, it's slim enough to fit though door frames.

geotrig

Don't look at the black monitor surround bezel too long either, brittlest substance known to man

o1s1n

geotrig wrote: »

Don't look at the black monitor surround bezel too long either, brittlest substance known to man

Yeah it absolutely amazed me that the one on mine wasn't broken at all. The stuff would shatter if you said a bad word to it.

I wonder did the plastic brittle with age or was it always like that?

geotrig

o1s1n wrote: »

Yeah it absolutely amazed me that the one on mine wasn't broken at all. The stuff would shatter if you said a bad word to it.

I wonder did the plastic brittle with age or was it always like that?

as far as i know and can remember back to it was always a complaint from everyone , there was at one point in a few decent drop in replacements that were sturdier but they disappeared about 15 years ago , I know some people replaced them with these

Cantstandsya

Ah thanks for all the replies guys... seems like it would be a right pain for me to get it up to the room :-(

I love the look of the Aero City (and the SNK Candy 18) so it's a pity.

Would the Astro City be a handier option to take apart and move?

If you are anyway handy they will all come apart too small peices !
Are you going to buy from rnlok etc?
No harm stripping them down and cleaning them but if your first cab it might be a bit intimidating .
The monitor will be filty

Cantstandsya

BrownFinger wrote: »

If you are anyway handy they will all come apart too small peices !
Are you going to buy from rnlok etc?
No harm stripping them down and cleaning them but if your first cab it might be a bit intimidating .
The monitor will be filty

It would be my first cab but I am not handy at all... I am happy to learn though as it's a hobby I'm really keen to get into.

What would be a good entry point? I'd really like a candy of some sort.

geotrig

if you have 3-4 people it would be moveable up stair there are two holders at the back and 2 grips at the side ,2 people could grab under the front and it would be moveable ,the cp is bolted on and can come off ,the monitor surround (metal part i have never really taken notice if its metal or not ! lol )comes off as well as the speaker parts on top , Im fairly sure the rest is welded together so is a square lump per se
below gives you an idea on how far it can be disassembled hwich would be similar to many , astros can be split in 2 and net city/ naomi's are like lego
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4toHaR18gI
https://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?t=34443

geotrig

just get one into the house ,dont wory about getting it up any stairs yet !

o1s1n

The Aero is actually a better one for getting into the house due to the dimensions, it's an older machine and is a bit thinner as it has a 25 inch monitor.

My one was able to go through a standard house door frame without removing anything at all.

When you start getting to more modern ones like Astros, atomiswaves and things with 29 inch monitors, they're fat bastards and you need to take them apart. (usually removing the control panel works)

The flip side to the above is that the Aero is all metal, so although it's a bit smaller, it's really heavy. at 110kg.

The more modern 29 inch monitor machines are plastic, so are a bit lighter. Sega Astro is 93kg.

Have you seen any of the smaller candy cabs? (you mentioned liking a candy 18?)

I've an SNK Candy 25 and it's only 90kg. Much smaller footprint than an Aero and it has the same size monitor (and it's also full metal)

Cantstandsya

o1s1n wrote: »

The Aero is actually a better one for getting into the house due to the dimensions, it's an older machine and is a bit thinner as it has a 25 inch monitor.

My one was able to go through a standard house door frame without removing anything at all.

When you start getting to more modern ones like Astros, atomiswaves and things with 29 inch monitors, they're fat bastards and you need to take them apart. (usually removing the control panel works)

The flip side to the above is that the Aero is all metal, so although it's a bit smaller, it's really heavy. at 110kg.

The more modern 29 inch monitor machines are plastic, so are a bit lighter. Sega Astro is 93kg.

Have you seen any of the smaller candy cabs? (you mentioned liking a candy 18?)

I've an SNK Candy 25 and it's only 90kg. Much smaller footprint than an Aero and it has the same size monitor (and it's also full metal)

Thanks for the info.

Yeah I love the SNK cabs but I would imagine they are fairly hard to come by? I get the Rklok notifications and they seem to get a fair few Aero and Astro Cities in.

o1s1n

Aeros and Astros come up most regularly alright, but Ronnie does goes through phases of finding SNK cabs.

Best to get in touch with him directly rather than waiting for the emails. He can actually stick you on a list. I've always bought mine by just getting in touch with him and seeing what he has due in.

Just to give you a bit of a size comparison, here's my Aero along with my other two before I sold it.

Aero's CRT is 26 inches, other two are 25. Rather amazing the size difference though. An Astro is bigger than the Aero again.

The Pony and the SNK25 both have flat backs too so you can roll them up against the wall. The Aero has this weird back which juts out, you can see how much further this makes the control panel and base come out.

Jack burton

Take a ton of pictures of everything if your disassembling. It's daunting but not too bad once you get going.

Have to take my cyber lead apart in a few weeks for some paint and a good cleaning

Cantstandsya

Oh wow, never realised there was such a size difference!

Will definitely email him directly. Thanks for the tip.

Colonel Panic

Just measured my front door and side passage and there's no way a cab is getting through the house to my man cave without some effort.

And this is after I convinced the wife that now's the time to buy one!

o1s1n

What are your dimensions?

I have an L shaped bend in a corridor before getting to my front door (which makes the likes of couches a nightmare), door frames are 74cm - both cabs breezed in.

It's more about trying to find a bit of a smaller machine than one of the larger 29 inch ones.

Colonel Panic

My front door will open fully and give me plenty of room for an Astrocity at 79cm.

Likewise my back door and shed door all good.

The internal door is 73cm though so that's a problem, but I think I could coerce a 29" through.

I think I'll drop this guy in the Netherlands an email and put myself on a list before I talk myself out of it!

Inviere

Colonel Panic wrote: »

before I talk myself out of it!

Definitely do it before that happens. It'll only be a matter of part-disassembly to get it through, and then you're laughing.

80s Synth Pop

or consider getting yourself an electrocoin xenon wooden cab.

take the monitor out, slide out the control panel then finally take out the bolts holding the top half and bottom together to separate the cab in two. Easy to bring upstairs by yourself this way.

Colonel Panic

It’s got to be a candy cab for me. I’ve emailed Ronnie about an Aero City. That’ll fit into my house no bother.

Jack burton

Taking the doors off the hinges really helped me when I had to get cabs into the house.

Got a blast city into my house with not much bother apart from that

The_B_Man

I got a 2 player driving cab through my house.
Only advice I'd give is to get a ramp of some kind because you're not going to lift it up the steps!

eddhorse

I had issues with my Astro City,

Got it in the front door but would not fit through the internal doors.

So brought it around the back to the sliding doors for kitchen and it wouldn't fit through, had to take the sliding door off.

I could take one apart now in minutes though Its all a learning curve.

There is a buy thread on Aeros on UKVAC at the moment too.
http://www.ukvac.com/forum/topic377509&OB=ASC.html

£1350 Fully Restored
£850 as-is untouched, working, ~60% condition

o1s1n

Seems a little pricey to me although I haven't really been following arcade machine prices for a while.

My Aero was €1000 all in from Ronnie, including postage (The cab itself was 750 if I remember correctly) - but that was 5-6 years ago.

Would definitely be worth shooting him an email. He's open to haggling too.

Colonel Panic

As mentioned up thread, I emailed Ronnie about an Aero City and I now have one on the way. A bit more than €1000 delivered but given the condition I’m very happy.

A JPac arrived today, step down on the way and Puzzle Bobble too.

Was trying to get Ghouls and Ghosts but even bootlegs seems pricey, and it turns out MiSTer supports that game so yay.

eddhorse

Colonel Panic wrote: »

As mentioned up thread, I emailed Ronnie about an Aero City and I now have one on the way. A bit more than €1000 delivered but given the condition I’m very happy.

A JPac arrived today, step down on the way and Puzzle Bobble too.

Was trying to get Ghouls and Ghosts but even bootlegs seems pricey, and it turns out MiSTer supports that game so yay.

Yep I've seen Owlnonymous playing Ghouls N Ghosts on Twitch on his Mister, looks great.
Good work, look forward to a nice "get it into the house and clean up thread"

o1s1n

Colonel Panic wrote: »

As mentioned up thread, I emailed Ronnie about an Aero City and I now have one on the way. A bit more than €1000 delivered but given the condition I’m very happy.

A JPac arrived today, step down on the way and Puzzle Bobble too.

Was trying to get Ghouls and Ghosts but even bootlegs seems pricey, and it turns out MiSTer supports that game so yay.

Fantastic news! Always love to hear of another candy making its way here.

Loads of photos when it arrives

Colonel Panic

Cheers guys, will definitely post pics. Might arrive tomorrow, but my current 100W stepdown won’t cut it and the replacement is enroute.

If you have a yellow builders transformer you can use that.

o1s1n

Go the whole hog, get an airlink

https://airlinktransformers.com/category/japan-uk-voltage-converters

Parcel motel makes them a lot more affordable with cheaper postage.

DaveyDave

I struggled to get a 60kg super king size mattress up my U shaped stairs the other day, I can only imagine the sweat and swearing involved with taking doors off or needing ramps!

Feck that

o1s1n

DaveyDave wrote: »

I struggled to get a 60kg super king size mattress up my U shaped stairs the other day, I can only imagine the sweat and swearing involved with taking doors off or needing ramps!

Feck that

It's totally worth it once it's finally in

geotrig

the mattress or the cab :P

good to see another aero enter these shores

Jack burton

I have a spare stepdown if you need one. It's not an airline but it's the black one a few people here have used the same one.

I got it with my cyber lead hassle, with 110/220 and not being told it was converted

Colonel Panic

Cheers for that, I bit the bullet and ordered an Airline stepdown - I've got a good few Japanese systems and only one stepdown so having one in the game shed will suffice for other stuff too!

Cabinet should be here on Monday!

eddhorse

Colonel Panic wrote: »

Cheers for that, I bit the bullet and ordered an Airline stepdown - I've got a good few Japanese systems and only one stepdown so having one in the game shed will suffice for other stuff too!

Cabinet should be here on Monday!

Is it here yet?

Colonel Panic

eddhorse wrote: »

Is it here yet?

Oh yes. Turns on, but the game I ordered to test is still enroute.

Getting it through the door wasn't so bad



Not it's final home, need to drag it to the shed in the garden. My wife won't be able to help there!



It's filthy inside.



Wired for Neo Geo

o1s1n

Wow, that's absolutely gorgeous. The externals look to be in great condition - nice to see you got an original marquee holder for the top too.

eddhorse

Great job, looks in super condition. What game are you waiting for?

geotrig

Colonel Panic wrote: »

It's filthy inside.


Wired for Neo Geo

Am i the only one who thinks its clean inside !:pac: looks in great condiotion and you even got the manual !

looks to be just wired as std 4 buttons ,just in case you get confused on neo /Jamma wiring !

Colonel Panic

Cheers all! Just realised I should've made my own thread instead of continuing to hijack this one!

o1s1n, the plastic marquee came as a surprise alright! Up close, you can see the wear and tear, but I'm going to play the long game when it comes to restoring any issues.

eddhorse, I bought Puzzle Bobble and a 1-slot MVS as a tester, I love the game and the missus will enjoy it. My wish list is LONG, but I think most of the time I'll have a MiSTer in there connected to a JPAC.

geotrig, Ah, I thought MVS wiring was just the 4th button into an unused pin on the Jamma harness?

eddhorse

geotrig wrote: »

Am i the only one who thinks its clean inside !:pac: looks in great condiotion and you even got the manual !

looks to be just wired as std 4 buttons ,just in case you get confused on neo /Jamma wiring !

Absolutely agree, nice and clean compared to some things I've seen and I've only seen a few cabinets.

Orebro

Do you mind me asking where you sourced this machine Colonel Panic - was it from RKLOK? I'll be looking for something along similar lines myself in a couple of months.

Colonel Panic

Yeah I got it from RKLOK.

To answer your original post. Lifting it is a 2 man job.

You can take the panel off if needed, but the Aero City is probably narrow enough so you won’t need to disassemble anything.

Do some measurement!

geotrig

Colonel Panic wrote: »

geotrig, Ah, I thought MVS wiring was just the 4th button into an unused pin on the Jamma harness?

technically that is still just jamma as it can support up to 5 buttons , a few other games utilise 4 buttons so its not unique to n/g hence the extra options ,most use an additional harness , ng mvs std is wired slightly different for 2-6 slots and 1 maybe 2 variations of the 1 slot but they have a switch iirc to work with jamma wiring ,its mainly the sound output that different. Most 1 slots are Jamma

Colonel Panic

Yeah, been doing a lot of reading and spending of money over the past few days.

The 4th buttons aren’t wired up all the way to the harness anyway, so I think I’ll do something modular so I can connect to button 4 for Neo Geo stuff, and 6 button games.

Andrew76

eddhorse wrote: »

Absolutely agree, nice and clean compared to some things I've seen and I've only seen a few cabinets.

Jayzus not sure what yokes you've seen so! :pac:

@Colonel - congrats on the lovely get!! Brings back fond memories that does.

Half tempted to see what an Egret 2 sells for these days...

Inviere

Andrew76 wrote: »

Half tempted to see what an Egret 2 sells for these days...

CiDeRdrew76 is born...