Garda traffic on Twitter 3

Kewreeuss

Seized means you lose the car?
And impounded means you pay to get it out of the pound but you don’t lose it.

Witcher

Kewreeuss wrote: »

Seized means you lose the car?
And impounded means you pay to get it out of the pound but you don’t lose it.

It's the same thing

fullstop

How many ****ing disqualified drivers are there on our roads?! It’s mind boggling.

Damien360

fullstop wrote: »

How many ****ing disqualified drivers are there on our roads?! It’s mind boggling.

I would imagine it’s not too difficult to get disqualified. Get caught 4 times speeding in 3 years and you get put off the road for 6 months. And if you are an N plate then it’s 7 points or 2 speeding plus a another.

Sam Russell

A friend of mine was disqualified in the UK. He said that the local police check up on their 'drunks' to make sure they are not driving. Perhaps a bit of that here might clear up things a bit.

Plus people found to be driving disqualified need special attention by the courts, and repeat offenders (caught a second time disqualified) deserve immediate detention, and perhaps a custodial sentence.

In rural areas, surely the local Gardai know the score with disqualified drivers.

Darc19

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

Why wasn't this vehicle seized, they always seem to state that any unaccompanied learner driver has their car seized so it's omission above implies it wasn't.
No mention of car being seized from the unqualified and thus uninsured 16 year old driver with parents in the car either but proceedings have commenced so maybe seizure is part of that.

They don't give all the details all the time. The Twitter feed is effectively a tabloid front page giving salacious headlines.

fullstop

Damien360 wrote: »

I would imagine it’s not too difficult to get disqualified. Get caught 4 times speeding in 3 years and you get put off the road for 6 months. And if you are an N plate then it’s 7 points or 2 speeding plus a another.

Right, well if you are disqualified you’re not supposed to be driving, but seemingly loads are. And while it may not be difficult per-se to get disqualified you’d want to be fairly dim to keep speeding after being caught the first 2-3 times.

GNWoodd

fullstop wrote: »

Right, well if you are disqualified you’re not supposed to be driving, but seemingly loads are. And while it may not be difficult per-se to get disqualified you’d want to be fairly dim to keep speeding after being caught the first 2-3 times.

The reality of it is that too many are being disqualified for issues that have little impact on road safety . I have no sympathy for anyone clocking up sufficient points over a period of time . That is just chronically ignoring the law .
But what has happened in recent years is that a significant number of motorists are being put off the road for very little by way of offence .For example someone found to have a residue of a spliff smoked so long ago as to no longer be relevant .Or someone caught the morning after by failing a urine / alcohol test .
It is now possible to be disqualified without actually being impaired.
What benefit is that to society ?

joujoujou

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1386327889575124992

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1386346764018413572

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1386359326848212992

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1386401794616487937

Thinkingaboutit

GNWoodd wrote: »

The reality of it is that too many are being disqualified for issues that have little impact on road safety . I have no sympathy for anyone clocking up sufficient points over a period of time . That is just chronically ignoring the law .
But what has happened in recent years is that a significant number of motorists are being put off the road for very little by way of offence .For example someone found to have a residue of a spliff smoked so long ago as to no longer be relevant .Or someone caught the morning after by failing a urine / alcohol test .
It is now possible to be disqualified without actually being impaired.
What benefit is that to society ?

I recall being in Wicklow county courthouse, and a judge seemed to be handing out two year driving bans for anything motoring related, although he threw out the matter concerning me.

drunkmonkey

Northern Ireland man refused bail after car rammed through Garda checkpoint following 15 mile police pursuit.

it's behind a paywall in the Belfast Telegraph even though it's a southern story I can't see it reported on.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/northern-ireland-man-refused-bail-after-car-rammed-through-garda-checkpoint-following-15-mile-police-pursuit-40354406.html

BronsonTB

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Northern Ireland man refused bail after car rammed through Garda checkpoint following 15 mile police pursuit.

it's behind a paywall in the Belfast Telegraph even though it's a southern story I can't see it reported on.

Reported Locally in Donegal

https://www.donegaldaily.com/2021/04/25/bail-denied-for-man-involved-in-dramatic-crash-after-inishowen-pursuit/

POBox19

GNWoodd wrote: »

The reality of it is that too many are being disqualified for issues that have little impact on road safety . I have no sympathy for anyone clocking up sufficient points over a period of time . That is just chronically ignoring the law .
But what has happened in recent years is that a significant number of motorists are being put off the road for very little by way of offence .For example someone found to have a residue of a spliff smoked so long ago as to no longer be relevant .Or someone caught the morning after by failing a urine / alcohol test .
It is now possible to be disqualified without actually being impaired.
What benefit is that to society ?

The benefits to society are that people are not getting injured, maimed or killed by those who have proven themselves incapable of respecting the rights and safety of others.
The laws have been enacted to protect the citizens and the penalties for failing to observe them vary from cautions, fines, points, disqualification and jail.

GNWoodd

POBox19 wrote: »

The benefits to society are that people are not getting injured, maimed or killed by those who have proven themselves incapable of respecting the rights and safety of others.
The laws have been enacted to protect the citizens and the penalties for failing to observe them vary from cautions, fines, points, disqualification and jail.

Why not use cautions , fines and points firstly then
Rather than dishing out disqualifications ?
If the number of motorists getting disqualified for relatively minor first offences continues as is , a point will be quickly reached where no one obeys the disqualification .

frozenfrozen

GNWoodd wrote: »

Why not use cautions , fines and points firstly then
Rather than dishing out disqualifications ?
If the number of motorists getting disqualified for relatively minor first offences continues as is , a point will be quickly reached where no one obeys the disqualification .

no do drug

Witcher

frozenfrozen wrote: »

What country are you allowed to drive in while testing positive for cocaine etc?

Or you just think there should be a first time is points and another time is a ban?

This topic is a bit of a hobby horse for GNWoodd, he's desperate for there to be extra chances for drug drivers before they're disqualified. Probably 75% of his posts relate to whinging about road traffic offenders being banned.

Possibly caught on the bag himself while driving and he's now on a bicycle, I put it to him before but never got a reply strangely.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116651398&postcount=1268

frozenfrozen

ah yes thanks that could have been quite the waste of time for me

joujoujou

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1386575316315934721

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1386605200144732161

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1386664967965970432

GNWoodd

Witcher wrote: »

This topic is a bit of a hobby horse for GNWoodd, he's desperate for there to be extra chances for drug drivers before they're disqualified. Probably 75% of his posts relate to whinging about road traffic offenders being banned.

Possibly caught on the bag himself while driving and he's now on a bicycle, I put it to him before but never got a reply strangely.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116651398&postcount=1268

You can try to discredit me any way you wish but I can assure you that everything that I have posted here I can stand over .
You believe in the integrity of the system whereas I do not .That doesn’t make what I post any less valid

Witcher

People caught by the system are usually the ones who find fault with it.

joujoujou

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1386747687723278340

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1386781983112585222

POBox19

GNWoodd wrote: »

Why not use cautions , fines and points firstly then
Rather than dishing out disqualifications ?
If the number of motorists getting disqualified for relatively minor first offences continues as is , a point will be quickly reached where no one obeys the disqualification .

Well, when you've had the cautions, fines and points and you are still using narcotics and/or alcohol and driving at speeds in excess of the set limits you have a very good chance of being disqualified for a while, or even sent to jail, because you've proved that your incapable of driving safely and the only person that you are fooling is yourself.

Bhail

GNWoodd wrote: »

Why not use cautions , fines and points firstly then
Rather than dishing out disqualifications ?
If the number of motorists getting disqualified for relatively minor first offences continues as is , a point will be quickly reached where no one obeys the disqualification .

You're right. Being done for trace amounts 24 hrs later where you actually are not under the influence of anything. It's flawed. No one would argue with being under at that moment, it's the trace amount that doesn't reflect reality.

GNWoodd

POBox19 wrote: »

Well, when you've had the cautions, fines and points and you are still using narcotics and/or alcohol and driving at speeds in excess of the set limits you have a very good chance of being disqualified for a while, or even sent to jail, because you've proved that your incapable of driving safely and the only person that you are fooling is yourself.

There are no cautions fines or points when it comes to narcotics or alcohol .

ohnonotgmail

GNWoodd wrote: »

There are no cautions fines or points when it comes to narcotics or alcohol .

and yet people still drive with drugs and/or alcohol in their system. Almost as if the real problem is that people are idiots.

joujoujou

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1386953350084808705

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1386968345455562753

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1386998507517751297

Miscreant

joujoujou wrote: »

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1386968345455562753

Blimey! 176kph and a tyre about to blow out... Some people really just want to watch the world burn!

GNWoodd

GNWoodd wrote: »

The reality of it is that too many are being disqualified for issues that have little impact on road safety . I have no sympathy for anyone clocking up sufficient points over a period of time . That is just chronically ignoring the law .
But what has happened in recent years is that a significant number of motorists are being put off the road for very little by way of offence .For example someone found to have a residue of a spliff smoked so long ago as to no longer be relevant .Or someone caught the morning after by failing a urine / alcohol test .
It is now possible to be disqualified without actually being impaired.
What benefit is that to society ?

What a hugely ignorant statement.

If there's sufficient alcohol STILL in your system that you fail the exam then there's still enough to impair your driving. That's how it works. It's a test that's tailored to each individual and their ability to absorb alcohol.

The marijuana test works the same way. It's not a drug test like workplaces. It's the amount still in your system at the time of testing. If it's detectable, it's effecting you.

frozenfrozen

what sort of punishment will defective tyre 180km/h driver get?

h3000

frozenfrozen wrote: »

what sort of punishment will defective tyre 180km/h driver get?

Hopefully a hefty fine and at least 10 points. 5 for speeding and 5 for driving dangerously defective vehicle. Will probably get away with it on a technicality though.