44 year old . 18 stone . Learner Bike

SteveAdti

As above. . Dipping my toe in . Looking for a 2000 - 3000 bike .
Relaxed riding position .
I know I can start on driving school bikes.
I would like a bike if my own for Sunday riding .
Was thinking of something around 600 cc .
Would value any advice greatly .
TIA

Wonda-Boy

First bike being your size I would get a V Strom 650. See how you go then maybe 1000cc version, CBF600 also and same path to the 1000cc.

Also a cruiser might suit you.....

The QuietMan

As Wonda says, try a V-Strom 650 or the 1000 if you can get insurance on it, I own a V-Strom, great riding position and very economical.

I was in my early 30’s on a learner permit when I bought it, couldn’t get insured on the 1000 or I’d have bought one.

A guy doing the IBT with me bought our instructors Kawasaki Versys 1000, he was 45 years old, the premium was with Principal insurance and less than €500, this was in 2018.

Just to compare, I’m give or take a cm or two 6’ 2” and was just shy of 20 stone buying my V-Strom, not a fat bloke just broad.

tobottherobot

I'd second a cruiser for sunday spins... Comfortable and relaxed riding position. There should be plenty of options on done deal... I'd be inclined to spend the €3k. You wont really lose anything on depreciation at the end of the scale as long as you keep it in good nick and serviced.. in my experience it's usually on sh!tbox bikes that fall below 3k

SteveAdti

They look very nice . Also look comfortable

The QuietMan wrote: »

As Wonda says, try a V-Strom 650 or the 1000 if you can get insurance on it, I own a V-Strom, great riding position and very economical.

I was in my early 30’s on a learner permit when I bought it, couldn’t get insured on the 1000 or I’d have bought one.

A guy doing the IBT with me bought our instructors Kawasaki Versys 1000, he was 45 years old, the premium was with Principal insurance and less than €500, this was in 2018.

Just to compare, I’m give or take a cm or two 6’ 2” and was just shy of 20 stone buying my V-Strom, not a fat bloke just broad.

Wonda-Boy

Also stick your vital statistics in this website and choose your bike and you will get a rough idea how it fits you....

That link is how a 6ft 1 male with a 34inch inseam would look for example.

https://cycle-ergo.com/

The QuietMan

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Also stick your vital statistics in this website and choose your bike and you will get a rough idea how it fits you....

That link is how a 6ft 1 male with a 34inch inseam would look for example.

https://cycle-ergo.com/

+1

This is how i am on the DL more or less

https://cycle-ergo.com/

I'll have to dig out the photo of me actually on it (Again :pac:)

fr.jack09

I have a TDM for sale, great for Irish roads https://www.donedeal.ie/motorbikes-for-sale/yamaha-tdm-850/24787985,

The QuietMan

Here’s the photo I was on about. Taken in October 2019. A DL650 V-Strom and I was near 20 stone then

arybvtcw0eolkf

I had a 2008 DL650 Vstrom and loved it, and I'm a portly gent too

It was a fantastic bike which I stupidly traded off a Kawasaki Z1000. I should have kept the Vstrom, I really can't fault it. I didn't take it outside of Ireland but it took me all over the country without ever missing a beat, and runs on a wiff of juice too.

Easy on tires, sprockets and chains top. A really fantastic bike.

Actually I will fault it, if you're over 6' you'll get a lot of wind blast but you can get a screen spoiler from Aliexpress for twenty Euro.

boredatwork82

6'3" and 22 stone here. I find my Honda Deauville very comfortable. Easy to ride , and low maintenance and cheap insurance and fairly cheap to buy. Definitely worth a consideration.

jim salter

My first bike was a Kawasaki ER6-N ...I'm 6'1" and 13 stone.

Found teh ER6 a good starter bike.

SteveAdti

THanks for all the replies . To Update . Theory Test Booked and managed to visit Bray Honda Centre . Was concerned about height of bikes as i have a slighly dodgy hip. They kindly let me sit on a new V Strom . No issue getting on bike . So im on my way to learning .
Thanks

Japcati2020

Old Fazer 600 or the 1000.....if you can find 1.
Great bike that will go forever

glenfieldman

I have a mint 600 Hornet for sale

https://www.adverts.ie/car/motorbikes/honda/2006-honda-price-drop/18723732

Zascar

Bassy Infracted for personal abuse - won't be tolerated here.

Hotblack Desiato

Yizzer don't know how good yiz have it :pac: I was 23 starting off on bikes and was restricted to 125cc.. got a 100 as it was cheaper to insure and as a two-stroke it had a bit more pep. Insurance, third party only, with the monopoly, Norwich Screwnion, in 1995, was just over IR£1000...! :eek:

Hotblack Desiato

Mak (and Japacati) I have an SV1000S, but tbh I'm thinking an SV650S might have done me.

I used to have a CBR600F - I loved whacking open the throttle and waiting for tne engine to catch up. It felt sometimes like there was a thick rubber band at the end of the throttle cable and feeling it hit very distinct power levels at 6000, 8000, 10000 rpm was fun

Litre bikes are kinda a bit much. Maybe I'm too old now, but I never actually gave my previous Triumph 955 fully wide open throttle, and the SV100S neither... so far... and I was only 34 when I bought the Triumph!

I love the feel of the SV twin but the Triumph triple engine can't be beat, imho, low down grunt like a twin while still having a top end kick like a four, and smooth too, and makes a nice noise

SteveAdti

Zascar wrote: »

Bassy Infracted for personal abuse - won't be tolerated here.

what did i miss ?

Wonda-Boy

Zascar still alive.....!!?!???!?

The QuietMan

jim salter wrote: »

My first bike was a Kawasaki ER6-N ...I'm 6'1" and 13 stone.

Found teh ER6 a good starter bike.

I envy your figure :pac:

Hotblack Desiato

Covid kilos really are a thing :eek:

Zascar

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Zascar still alive.....!!?!???!?

Hahah yes I am - Living overseas now but I still keep an eye out to make sure you're not all misbehaving without me! :pac:

galwaytt

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Yizzer don't know how good yiz have it :pac: I was 23 starting off on bikes and was restricted to 125cc.. got a 100 as it was cheaper to insure and as a two-stroke it had a bit more pep. Insurance, third party only, with the monopoly, Norwich Screwnion, in 1995, was just over IR£1000...! :eek:

ah heeyor, this beginning to sound like....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE

but sure seeing as you started it :P - when I started biking, I had saved up £800. Like you, a lot of my friends were on 100cc two-strokes: GP100, H100S, RXS100,and the better heeled had RD80LC, DT80/DT80LC. Back then, all those bikes would go for about £600, and with insurance at £186, fell nicely into place.

I otoh saw an ad in the Galway Advertiser for a 200cc Suzuki - I thought it was an X5 200, but it turned out to be the poor relation, an SB200, and I bought it. The maths sum was the same, but the components different: the bike was £400 (€1,004 in today's money) and insurance was £436 (€1,092 in today's money).

So, £36 over budget, at £1.50/hr.............

Hotblack Desiato

You must have got in before the 125 law so - when did that come in here?

My first bike was indeed a nine year old GP100, with snazzy alloy wheels and a disc brake!

I got it nudging 70mph once on the M4 (I was on a provisional :P ) just before it burned a hole through the piston! Had to push it back up the hard shoulder for about 3 miles to get off the motorway and to a phone box (remember those?) so the brother in law could rescue me. New piston and a bit of effort clearing melted alloy bits out of the crankcase, and it was fine - but I knew not to hold wide open throttle on it for too long after that.

First bike was a 2 stroke Yamaha RXS 100. Great yoke. 50 mph going downhill with a tailwind. Kind of hard to kill yourself on - best way to learn. I was about 15 stone then - lost weight since - and regularly carried a pillion on it.

Pinoy adventure

A bandit 600s is a good bullet proof bike too start out on.

galwaytt

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First bike was a 2 stroke Yamaha RXS 100. Great yoke. 50 mph going downhill with a tailwind. Kind of hard to kill yourself on - best way to learn. I was about 15 stone then - lost weight since - and regularly carried a pillion on it.

In a land of 957cc Fiestas and Mk3 Cortinas, grand. You were as fast as anything on the road.

Now that every young lad has a 2.0Tdi, a 125 is a mobile roadblock- they're lethal.

My young lad has a modern 125 and the sooner he's off it and on to a bigger bike, the better.

SteveAdti

So a Deauville it is . Permit gotten . Bike sorted and I know lessons should have come first but the bike popped up.
Thanks for all the advice

boredatwork82

SteveAdti wrote: »

So a Deauville it is . Permit gotten . Bike sorted and I know lessons should have come first but the bike popped up.
Thanks for all the advice

Best of luck. Great bike for starting out on.

Join the user groups on Facebook. Fantastically helpful and informative groups.
Here is a really useful page too:

http://robdavistelford.co.uk/webspace/deauville/

Fabio

SteveAdti wrote: »

So a Deauville it is . Permit gotten . Bike sorted and I know lessons should have come first but the bike popped up.
Thanks for all the advice

Deauville's are great, super practical albeit not terribly fast but they do handle far better than their weight should allow them to.

Sonics2k

Had a Deauville for a year or two. Fantastic thing, not super fast off the mark but more than enough in my experience.

Like most Honda's it's bullet proof too. It's not a sexy bike, but it's a damn good bike.

Much love for CB400s? I have one and would consider them a perfect bike for a beginner, and it's more than fast enough.

Hotblack Desiato

Good bike but you can't do the A test on it obviously.

myclist

Cant do the A test on a Deauville either.

Hotblack Desiato

I'd forgotten that, even the 700 falls just short of the 50kW. It's a poor output for the size.

myclist

Great little bike though.

Jimmy Bottlehead

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Much love for CB400s? I have one and would consider them a perfect bike for a beginner, and it's more than fast enough.

Yep. I literally looked for the most recommended bike for beginners and the 400 Super Four came up top again and again. Cracking bike to learn on, and it never bothered me that you have to use the school bike for the test.

SteveAdti

Just to update . Bought a 99 Deauville, got the lessons and today, 6 months and 9 days after getting the permit i passed the test.
Thanks for your suggestions and Im a happy man. Used a CBF600 for the test.

Jimmy Bottlehead

SteveAdti wrote: »

Just to update . Bought a 99 Deauville, got the lessons and today, 6 months and 9 days after getting the permit i passed the test.
Thanks for your suggestions and Im a happy man. Used a CBF600 for the test.

Ah lovely! Congrats!

What was it like on the rest when ya drove a motorbike for the first time? :P (I kid)

LollipopJimmy

SteveAdti wrote: »

Just to update . Bought a 99 Deauville, got the lessons and today, 6 months and 9 days after getting the permit i passed the test.
Thanks for your suggestions and Im a happy man. Used a CBF600 for the test.

Congratulations! However how the feck did you get a test so quickly? I'm still waiting for a date and applied months ago

Zascar

Congrats!! You'll never look back. Try to meet up with a few people for a rideout, there is a thread. Enjoy!

zubair

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

Ah lovely! Congrats!

What was it like on the rest when ya drove a motorbike for the first time? :P (I kid)

Fabio

SteveAdti wrote: »

Just to update . Bought a 99 Deauville, got the lessons and today, 6 months and 9 days after getting the permit i passed the test.
Thanks for your suggestions and Im a happy man. Used a CBF600 for the test.

Ah well done! Enjoy miles of smiles ahead .

Jimmy Bottlehead

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Congratulations! However how the feck did you get a test so quickly? I'm still waiting for a date and applied months ago

It's clearly based on skill, Other Jimmy

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