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Golf digest top 100 2020

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  • #52
    DuckSlice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭DuckSlice


    doublecross wrote: »
    Lahinch still €240 :( no deal for GUI members

    Yes which is a shame. I have rang them and they are considering it this year apparently. Told to ring back in a few weeks.


  • #53
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,000 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    It seems what people were suggesting wasn't miles off the mark. Just need a couple more to have a rethink.

    Americans will not be coming over anyway - a decent GUI rate (all be it, at a fair price 80 to 100) euro. Would be great for everyone. Looks like 120 is price point - near 1/2 price.

    This idea that the places would be packed to the rafters - full of the local pub societies was not what people wanted. A price point that will have dedicated lovers of golf and supports of the game - who in reality have a fairly admirable ambition, to play every great course in Ireland.

    A few notable exceptions yet.

    The Island
    Portmarnock
    Royal Dublin
    Lahinch

    Any others ?

    But fair play to the course who have considered it.


  • #54
    PARlance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,343 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    FixdePitchmark wrote: »
    It seems what people were suggesting wasn't miles off the mark. Just need a couple more to have a rethink.

    Americans will not be coming over anyway - a decent GUI rate (all be it, at a fair price 80 to 100) euro. Would be great for everyone. Looks like 120 is price point - near 1/2 price.

    This idea that the places would be packed to the rafters - full of the local pub societies was not what people wanted. A price point that will have dedicated lovers of golf and supports of the game - who in reality have a fairly admirable ambition, to play every great course in Ireland.

    A few notable exceptions yet.

    The Island
    Portmarnock
    Royal Dublin
    Lahinch

    Any others ?

    But fair play to the course who have considered it.

    I'm not exactly sure the courses that are having these re-thinks are as noble as you may suggest Fix. If Ballyliffin was in Dublin, with a strong membership base, then I suspect they could be on the same list as above.

    If Clubs are doing it now, it's more likely to be because they have the space on the timesheet and need the money, rather than it being some altruistic change in attitude to local golfers.


  • #55
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    FixdePitchmark wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Ballyliffin/status/1270391336357724160/photo/1

    Sorry - not sure if above will work - but fair play to Ballyliffin offering a GUI rate of €80 - as offered here.
    etxp wrote: »
    Friend of mine has been In contact with a few.

    Tralee 120
    Old head 130
    Waterville 130

    not sure if this is normal GUI rates or special offers. Not sure what dates he enquired about exactly but it was July/August time
    Deporhostia wrote: »
    Ballybunion €125 for Old, €50 for Cashen, €155 for both in the same day.
    GUI rate

    All normal GUI rates, no offers there, Ballyliffin actually gone up a tenner and I'm pretty sure I was quoted way less for Waterville last time I checked, deffo just double figures!
    Not sure on Old Head though


  • #56
    DuckSlice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭DuckSlice


    FixdePitchmark wrote: »
    It seems what people were suggesting wasn't miles off the mark. Just need a couple more to have a rethink.

    Americans will not be coming over anyway - a decent GUI rate (all be it, at a fair price 80 to 100) euro. Would be great for everyone. Looks like 120 is price point - near 1/2 price.

    This idea that the places would be packed to the rafters - full of the local pub societies was not what people wanted. A price point that will have dedicated lovers of golf and supports of the game - who in reality have a fairly admirable ambition, to play every great course in Ireland.

    A few notable exceptions yet.

    The Island
    Portmarnock
    Royal Dublin
    Lahinch

    Any others ?

    But fair play to the course who have considered it.

    Yea they wont want hackers coming in.

    Adare are not doing any deals, stuck with the €395 plus €75 for the a caddy.

    I used always say that I wouldn't pay over 100 for a round of golf but I might stretch it to 120/130 now.


  • #57
    Raisins
    Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Raisins


    slave1 wrote: »
    All normal GUI rates, no offers there, Ballyliffin actually gone up a tenner and I'm pretty sure I was quoted way less for Waterville last time I checked, deffo just double figures!
    Not sure on Old Head though

    I checked Ballybunion and Tralee last summer and there was no GUI rate in either. They don’t care what accent you have in the summer as long as you produce 250 quid, there was no 125 GUI rate (according to what I was told).


  • #58
    blue note
    Registered Users Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭blue note


    Raisins wrote: »
    I checked Ballybunion and Tralee last summer and there was no GUI rate in either. They don’t care what accent you have in the summer as long as you produce 250 quid, there was no 125 GUI rate (according to what I was told).

    I'd assume with those courses that the majority playing then are on package tours. And the reality is that the tour company would be paying a heavily discounted green fee rate to the clubs. I very much when you divide the revenue from visitors by the number that played you'd be at all close to their green fee rate.


  • #59
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Raisins wrote: »
    I checked Ballybunion and Tralee last summer and there was no GUI rate in either. They don’t care what accent you have in the summer as long as you produce 250 quid, there was no 125 GUI rate (according to what I was told).

    If you phone the Pro shop you'll get a rate, they do not advertise it.
    Thinking back on Waterville I am pretty certain it was €60 for a round after 4.30 in the afternoon which is well doable at summer sunsets


  • #60
    doublecross
    Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭doublecross


    Raisins wrote: »
    I checked Ballybunion and Tralee last summer and there was no GUI rate in either. They don’t care what accent you have in the summer as long as you produce 250 quid, there was no 125 GUI rate (according to what I was told).

    They have opens every year. Tralee was around €50 Last year


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  • #61
    Ally McIntosh
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭Ally McIntosh


    PARlance wrote: »
    I'm not exactly sure the courses that are having these re-thinks are as noble as you may suggest Fix. If Ballyliffin was in Dublin, with a strong membership base, then I suspect they could be on the same list as above.

    If Clubs are doing it now, it's more likely to be because they have the space on the timesheet and need the money, rather than it being some altruistic change in attitude to local golfers.

    This - of course - is the answer.

    Clubs choose the model they want. Most wish to maximise revenue. Some wish to limit outside play in order to maintain the experience for their members.

    I’d be very surprised if clubs deliberately reduce their income to “help” the GUI or GUI affiliated golfers. I think it would be more worthy if some high end clubs gave a few tee-times to the local community for a day or two a year, as acknowledgement of their place in the locality. Doonbeg used to do this, maybe because it helped them gain support at permitting stage though.


  • #62
    woodyg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭woodyg


    etxp wrote: »
    Yes which is a shame. I have rang them and they are considering it this year apparently. Told to ring back in a few weeks.

    cause the yanks can't come this year
    all the courses listed here aren't doing this out of some goodness of heart\gui deal, it's economics of having a majorly reduced tourist industry for this season especially with no american's coming.

    some of the deals mentioned are good no doubt but it won't be a thing going forward which is a shame


  • #63
    Raisins
    Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Raisins


    doublecross wrote: »
    They have opens every year. Tralee was around €50 Last year

    I know I played in one. I just didn’t think they had a Gui rate the pro shop told me they didn’t but I might have spoken to wrong person.


  • #64
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,000 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    PARlance wrote: »
    I'm not exactly sure the courses that are having these re-thinks are as noble as you may suggest Fix. If Ballyliffin was in Dublin, with a strong membership base, then I suspect they could be on the same list as above.

    If Clubs are doing it now, it's more likely to be because they have the space on the timesheet and need the money, rather than it being some altruistic change in attitude to local golfers.

    Behind the facade of my rhetoric - I know this is true.


  • #65
    Deporhostia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Deporhostia


    slave1 wrote: »
    If you phone the Pro shop you'll get a rate, they do not advertise it.
    Thinking back on Waterville I am pretty certain it was €60 for a round after 4.30 in the afternoon which is well doable at summer sunsets



    Surprised at this. The only time I played Waterville, in 2017, was in a scratch competition, I was playing with with 3 members, they said the members guest fee had recently gone up to €120, so I can’t see how a GUI rate would be any cheaper.

    I hope you’re right and I’m wrong!


  • #66
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Oh I am right, was in person in the Pro shop, a walk in enquiry


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  • #67
    rooney30
    Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭rooney30


    slave1 wrote: »
    All normal GUI rates, no offers there, Ballyliffin actually gone up a tenner and I'm pretty sure I was quoted way less for Waterville last time I checked, deffo just double figures!
    Not sure on Old Head though

    You are wrong . These rates were not available to gui members pre pandemic . In fact there was no such thing as a gui rate in most of these clubs These are basically pandemic prices !


  • #68
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,443 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    slave1 wrote: »
    Oh I am right, was in person in the Pro shop, a walk in enquiry

    I rang both Waterville and Ballybunion last summer and there was no GUI rate in either and I kicked up a bit of a stink to no avail. So your experience is defo the exception.


  • #69
    tax_tutor1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭tax_tutor1


    slave1 wrote: »
    If you phone the Pro shop you'll get a rate, they do not advertise it.
    Thinking back on Waterville I am pretty certain it was €60 for a round after 4.30 in the afternoon which is well doable at summer sunsets

    Waterville member/guest rate is €120 at present. Just checked it with a member.


  • #70
    Ally McIntosh
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭Ally McIntosh


    tax_tutor1 wrote: »
    Waterville member/guest rate is €120 at present. Just checked it with a member.

    That’s a huge amount for a member’s guest. Surely that must be the highest in the country? Maybe Adare is more.


  • #71
    Miley Byrne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭Miley Byrne


    Ally McIntosh wrote: »
    That’s a huge amount for a member’s guest. Surely that must be the highest in the country? Maybe Adare is more.

    Adare's member guest rate is €200, no caddy required though


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  • #72
    morrga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭morrga


    doublecross wrote: »
    Lahinch still €240 :( no deal for GUI members

    Lahinch now going €150 for visitors. Got an e mail back from them last week.


  • #73
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,000 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    morrga wrote: »
    Lahinch now going €150 for visitors. Got an e mail back from them last week.

    Still a bit rich ?


  • #74
    Golf is my Game
    Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭Golf is my Game


    It is, but Id say there a bit of not wanting to devalue the magic and image too much with some of these courses even if they could actually get more cash in by reducing the fees. They just dont have a need some have so much in the bank anyway, its better to just ride this year out and keep the high faluting exclusivity thing.


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