Fixing bolts / what size ? 3x2 timber

2012paddy2012

Hi I want to cover over the side entrance with Perspex

I’m going to fix lengths of 3x2 to the house wall and to the concrete wall at the side entrance .

The fixing bolts I am wondering what exact type bolts I should use. The timber is 3 x2 I want to fix the lengths securely .

If possible to add “ link” as I want to call to Woodies and just pick up exactly what I need ..

Regards

Paddy

mickdw

Whats perplex?

Fann Linn

mickdw wrote: »

Whats perplex?

Perspex??

T-Maxx

I'm sorry OP - not being a wise ass here - but if you ask something like this I don't know whether you should attempt this.

Pataman

3x2 is very big for perspex.
I have 2x1 rough treated timber on mine.
Use frame fixers to fit the batons to the wall

Pataman

T-Maxx wrote: »

I'm sorry OP - not being a wise ass here - but if you ask something like this I don't know whether you should attempt this.

Probably a typo and everyone has to learn and start somewhere

2012paddy2012

Pataman wrote: »

3x2 is very big for perspex.
I have 2x1 rough treated timber on mine.
Use frame fixers to fit the batons to the wall

Ok cool , that’s grand will do. Frame fixers I have on list ! Thanks for helpful reply.

Probably any regular wall bolts will do the trick .

I just want to get the 2x1 onto house wall and side wall , level and secure first. I’ll be back !

Just a simple cover over to keep few things in it is what I’m doing , thks

2012paddy2012

mickdw wrote: »

Whats perplex?

Perspex is a form of acrylic plastic that starts out as a liquid and is then formed into a strong plastic. ... Initially used to make windows for submarines and cars, acrylic sheets now have a variety of alternative uses (including construction, engineering and even photography).

2012paddy2012

Fann Linn wrote: »

Perspex??

What’s that !? Thanks for taking time to read post and answer with helpful reply.

2012paddy2012

T-Maxx wrote: »

I'm sorry OP - not being a wise ass here - but if you ask something like this I don't know whether you should attempt this.

It’s only a few pieces of timber on two walls , few bolts and a level , not rocket science , but helpful tips are most welcome , should you have anything , it would be appreciated , thank you

Fann Linn

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

What’s that !? Thanks for taking time to read post and answer with helpful reply.

If you read the thread you'd see that I was replying to Mickd who asked 'perplex'.

2012paddy2012

Pataman wrote: »

Probably a typo and everyone has to learn and start somewhere

Great to see common sense , this type of trolling is new to me and a little sad , anyhow , lot of free time at mo !!!!

2012paddy2012

Fann Linn wrote: »

If you read the thread you'd see that I was replying to Mickd who asked 'perplex'.

Well if you can’t guess what it is , in the context of the tread , I wonder ... thanks

Class MayDresser

This thread is perplexing. It's a running thing in DIY, youre not the first, and won't be the last/

Paddy, Frame fixers more than adequate. 3*2's plenty enough to carry the perspex.

2012paddy2012

Class MayDresser wrote: »

This thread is perplexing.

Paddy, Frame fixers more than adequate. 3*2's plenty enough to carry the perspex.

Tis. That’s the type of advice I’m after.
Really appreciate it.
I’ll be back for a few thought , when I’ve that done
...next issue will be just cutting the slight off angle of timber to go across ....
for another day !!!!

wizardman

Would you not get the guy back who did your lean to?

2012paddy2012

wizardman wrote: »

Would you not get the guy back who did your lean to?

Lol I was up on it , today putting more bolts on and added three new timber barons .... he was a joke ...

I’ll manage meself , thanks ðŸ™Builders pretending to be builders too many of them around ... we need trading standards here like in uk ... round up the cowboys ....

wizardman

Wasn't a tradesman that did that.. A handyman or DIY Dave

mickdw

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

Lol I was up on it , today putting more bolts on and added three new timber barons .... he was a joke ...

I’ll manage meself , thanks ðŸ™Builders pretending to be builders too many of them around ... we need trading standards here like in uk ... round up the cowboys ....

Ya there are no cowboys at all in uk.

2012paddy2012

wizardman wrote: »

Wasn't a tradesman that did that.. A handyman or DIY Dave

Well he has a big sign writing on his van. He describes himself as a builder . That’s a fact .

I might stick” PADDYS BUILDERS” on my yoke and do a few botch jobs , chances of me being brought to book / NILL ... you live and learn , indeed

2012paddy2012

mickdw wrote: »

Ya there are no cowboys at all in uk.

I wouldn’t agree. At least some are prosecuted. Respect your opinion tho

wizardman

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

Well he has a big sign writing on his van. He describes himself as a builder . That’s a fact .

I might stick” PADDYS BUILDERS” on my yoke and do a few botch jobs , chances of me being brought to book / NILL ... you live and learn , indeed

I think Paddy did do it

2012paddy2012

wizardman wrote: »

I think Paddy did do it

He should have !

Calahonda52

I would use express nails, 10 or 12mm at 300-400 centres, length will depend on wall/wall finish, you need to have 40mm grip in the block.
pre drill the timber with a slightly bigger drill, so 11 mm for the 10 mm, much easier to drive them home

2012paddy2012

Calahonda52 wrote: »

I would use express nails, 10 or 12mm at 300-400 centres, length will depend on wall/wall finish, you need to have 40mm grip in the block.
pre drill the timber with a slightly bigger drill, so 11 mm for the 10 mm, much easier to drive them home

Ok sounds good , thanks for that

GinSoaked

Calahonda52 wrote: »

I would use express nails, 10 or 12mm at 300-400 centres, length will depend on wall/wall finish, you need to have 40mm grip in the block.
pre drill the timber with a slightly bigger drill, so 11 mm for the 10 mm, much easier to drive them home

This arrangement sounds a bit temporary. The perspex will have a limited life span anyway so I'd use fixings that would be easier to remove than express nails and that didn't leave any metal in the wall if they did have to be removed. So I'd consider frame fixers with screw bolts and washers and leave the bolt heads exposed. Just to make sure they come out later I'd even put a smear of grease on the threads. Probably M8 x 100 or 120mm depending on which face of the 3x2 was against the wall.

2012paddy2012

GinSoaked wrote: »

This arrangement sounds a bit temporary. The perspex will have a limited life span anyway so I'd use fixings that would be easier to remove than express nails and that didn't leave any metal in the wall if they did have to be removed. So I'd consider frame fixers with screw bolts and washers and leave the bolt heads exposed. Just to make sure they come out later I'd even put a smear of grease on the threads. Probably M8 x 100 or 120mm depending on which face of the 3x2 was against the wall.

Thank you , I’m really looking for a cover that is handy enough to fit onto batons that will keep the rain out ... Perspex seems the job , is there any handy alternative

Leftyflip

This is what you want, drill a 6mm pilot hole through the wood and wall, and drive these home. They'll fix the wood solidly and can be easily removed if needs be.

GinSoaked

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

Thank you , I’m really looking for a cover that is handy enough to fit onto batons that will keep the rain out ... Perspex seems the job , is there any handy alternative

Not really. Perspex will be fine for ten years but it does scratch, eventually discolours and gets brittle. What I'd do is find out what brand you can buy locally and then check up on the specs. I suspect there are some brands that have better quality sheets that aren't affected by UV as quickly.

Twin Wall Polycarbonate Sheets might be another option but they are primarily used for roofing and don't look right when used for walls. Twin wall suffers from other issues as you can get mold in the sections.

Link to compare Polycarbonate Sheet and Perspex https://industrialplastics.com.au/perspex-sheet-vs-polycarbonate/

2012paddy2012

I was going to just timber from between each concrete pillar to avoid any awkwardness.


ideally if i could run beyond the one near side entrance gate that would look better , i don't fancy it , as it is simple enough i think to secure timber to house wall and under lip of diving house walls , as its quite high , as a matter of interest is it handy enough to cut a a sheet to go around a pillar ? onto a made up piece i could secure to pillar?!

photo seems sideways after compressing it to attach !!sorry

GinSoaked

Is this for a wall or a roof?