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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    youtube! wrote: »
    Do you not see the links like seriously? The art in that place these people are freaks at best , does it not make you even slightly question why these sickos would want murals of tortured and raped babies hanging on their walls of their houses ?

    No, art is subjective, one person's art is another person's sick.

    I dont understand why people keep stuffed animals (taxidermy) but hey if that's their thing then so be it.

    Some of the most famous artists in the world were considered controversial at some stage.

    Nothing in that video is proof of anything it's just supposition and wild claims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    No, art is subjective, one person's art is another person's sick.

    I dont understand why people keep stuffed animals (taxidermy) but hey if that's their thing then so be it.

    Some of the most famous artists in the world were considered controversial at some stage.

    Nothing in that video is proof of anything it's just supposition and wild claims.

    The last time this claim was made, it turned out to be a complete twisting of facts.
    The initial claim was a couple of people connected to the whole thing proudly displayed art that apparently showed "naked children". And according to the conspiracy theorist, they showed it to a reporter for some reason.

    However when this was superficially dug into, it crumbled away really fast.
    The "pictures of naked children" became "art from an artist who was famous for pictures of naked teenagers". And when that was dug into, we couldn't actually find any evidence or mention of the artist doing that kind of thing outside one internet comment by some rando.
    Then it became that the couple had other art from that artist that was "shocking."

    I'd bet money that's the case here, if it's not the exact same claims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,050 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    youtube! wrote: »
    I often wonder why people like you are mods on subjects that you clearly have no belief in, I mean why bother? You do not believe in a single CT from what I have seen, you are completely narrow minded and refuse to watch a 19 minute video which asks some really good questions. It is almost like you are here to debunk every CT instead of being open minded.
    You have really not answered my question.

    I’ve asked another mod to step in and address the bulk of this post. It’s not acceptable here. It has no bearing on my question, and no bearing on any meaningful answer. If I see continuance I will step in myself.

    I asked you to explain very basic synopses about a claim you wish to convince an audience of. In response you descended into a series of deflections by way of Argumentum ad hominem, accusing people (especially me) of being cognitively dissonant for wanting to understand what 3 hours of ‘rabbit hole’ video content was about. This is really counterproductive to your agenda, here, of convincing an audience that your understanding of PizzaGate is the correct one. You are turning your audience, some of whom are critical thinkers, and/or skeptics etc. into Opponents.

    We are only a little bit closer, now, to understanding that your theory brought forward is at least contextually driven upon, if not founded upon, heretofore unproven claims about eg. ‘Child rape art.’
    does it not make you even slightly question why these sickos would want murals of tortured and raped babies hanging on their walls of their houses ?

    Who had a mural of “tortured and raped babies?“


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    youtube! wrote: »
    I often wonder why people like you are mods on subjects that you clearly have no belief in, I mean why bother? You do not believe in a single CT from what I have seen, you are completely narrow minded and refuse to watch a 19 minute video which asks some really good questions. It is almost like you are here to debunk every CT instead of being open minded.

    Mod: please stay on topic and keep civil. Final warning.

    If you want to discuss the topic do so with respect to other posters and please *engage* instead of just reverting to old staple of ‘just watch the video’


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    youtube! wrote: »
    Discuss. I cannot for the life of me deny the links with sick pedophilia , from the emails to the so called artwork to the sick pedo bands that play there so much symbolism . This one has mountains of questions that need answering.

    Here's an interesting recent documentary OP
    The maker comes from a relatively objective position.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/sXz6hAqxe6hu/

    Remember the people rubbishing the narrative have only superficial information gleamed from 'debunking' articles and haven't actually looked at the information themselves and thus don't really know what they're talking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Remember the people rubbishing the narrative have only superficial information gleamed from 'debunking' articles and haven't actually looked at the information themselves and thus don't really know what they're talking about.
    I have looked at the information before the last time it was brought up.

    I don't think I've ever read any "debunking" article on it.:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Nevermind cooking pizzas (could well be somehing in it, but very difficult to establish),

    What about Hilary/Podesta & Co at the voodo-esq 'spirit-cooking'.
    It was there in black n' white in emails of 2015.

    Sure maybe it's just a new way to fry pineapples bits to finish off their pizzas?

    Sicko Marina Abramović seems to googlebots #1 result for this stuff, linked to Podesta.
    But don't google any of her repulsive 'artwork' if you're after having a heavy pizza lunch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Here's an interesting recent documentary OP
    The maker comes from a relatively objective position.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/sXz6hAqxe6hu/

    I like the evil music!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,050 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Nevermind cooking pizzas (could well be somehing in it, but very difficult to establish),

    What about Hilary/Podesta & Co at the voodo-esq 'spirit-cooking'.
    It was there in black n' white in emails of 2015.

    Sure maybe it's just a new way to fry pineapples bits to finish off their pizzas?

    Sicko Marina Abramović seems to googlebots #1 result for this stuff, linked to Podesta.
    But don't google any of her repulsive 'artwork' if you're after having a heavy pizza lunch.

    Can you name any of her pieces of work you find objectionable? She titles her artwork.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Overheal wrote: »
    Can you name any of her pieces of work you find objectionable? She titles her artwork.
    Pretty much all of it, the entire body of her work is either a bore, or aesthetically repulsive.

    The essence of bringing in the participation of observers, to focusing on pain, blood, and physical limits of the body... most folks can do without.

    All sounds much like her 'spiritcooking' with Podesta/Hilary & Co.
    Did she frequent the pizza joint too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Pretty much all of it, the entire body of her work is either a bore, or aesthetically repulsive.

    The essence of bringing in the participation of observers, to focusing on pain, blood, and physical limits of the body... most folks can do without.

    All sounds much like her 'spiritcooking' with Podesta/Hilary & Co.
    Did she frequent the pizza joint too?

    So because these people like an artist you don't like, they're all involved in a big conspiracy? :confused:

    Also, why do you keep bringing up "spiritcooking"? How does that tie into the conspiracy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,050 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Pretty much all of it, the entire body of her work is aesthetically repulsive.

    The essence of bringing in the participation of observers, to focusing on pain, blood, and physical limits of the body... most folks can do without.

    All sounds much like her 'spiritcooking' with Podesta/Hilary & Co.
    Did she frequent the pizza joint too?

    How does The Communicator convey aesthetic repulsion? What’s morally objectionable about the work?

    https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/the-communicator/yAEqhFAoFJlXyw?hl=en&avm=2

    What about Black Dragon? Is the pink brick too sexually suggestive?

    https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/black-dragon/HgFiKfwK8EAAlA?hl=en&avm=2

    Shoes for Departure?

    https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/shoes-for-departure/ugFXmdCZ70Qn_Q?hl=en&avm=2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Here's a nice example of her more typical 'pretty performance artwork', (discussed over on reditt).
    Just loverrrly: Before you puke the aul ring, don't worry it was mostly molasses they're poking at.

    Edit: NSFW

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyGaga/comments/5bjb4l/lady_gaga_cooking_spirits_together_with_marina/

    Is there no connection between her and Podesta (spiritcooking), and thus the Podesta pizzagate thing.
    Maybe it's all just a bad dream, or performance art itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,050 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Here's a nice example of her more typical 'pretty performance artwork', (discussed over on reditt).
    Just loverrrly: Before you puke the aul ring, don't worry it was mostly molasses they're poking at.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyGaga/comments/5bjb4l/lady_gaga_cooking_spirits_together_with_marina/

    Is there no connection between her and Podesta (spiritcooking), and thus the Podesta pizzagate thing.
    Maybe it's all just a bad dream, or performance art itself.

    Do you in fact believe she is covered in “blood, breast milk, and semen” as the redditor suggests?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Here's a nice example of her more typical 'pretty performance artwork', (discussed over on reditt).
    Just loverrrly: Before you puke the aul ring, don't worry it was mostly molasses they're poking at.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LadyGaga/comments/5bjb4l/lady_gaga_cooking_spirits_together_with_marina/

    Is there no connection between her and Podesta (spiritcooking), and thus the Podesta pizzagate thing.
    Maybe it's all just a bad dream, or performance art itself.
    Ok...?
    What's the objection to this and how does it indicate a conspiracy?

    Is it just "I think it's weird, therefore these people are obviously up to something"?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Overheal wrote: »
    Do you in fact believe she is covered in “blood, breast milk, and semen” as the redditor suggests?
    Did anyone here claim such?
    However, do you believe she is not using molasses as a visual indicator blood, death and decomposition?

    Do you take inspiration or approval of such artworks, and the dipping of spoons in such (like the gaga lady participated in), joyfull stuff is it? Slightly beyond 'a bit weird'.

    Sure there are many twisted folks, but would you not prefer a nice Claude Monet, reckon 99.9% of folks would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,050 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Overheal wrote: »
    It was molasses, by the way
    As you were told it was, already.

    By the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,050 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Did anyone here claim such?
    However, do you believe she is not using molasses as a visual indicator blood, death and decomposition?

    Do you take inspiration or approval of such artworks, and the dipping of spoons in such (like the gaga lady participated in), joyfull stuff is it? Slightly beyond 'a bit weird'.

    Sure there are many twisted folks, but would you not prefer a nice Claude Monet, reckon 99.9% of folks would.

    Well you chose this link in particular and right in the OP and the majority of the comments is the clear belief it is blood, breast milk and semen. If you didn’t ascribe to that you certainly should say so, rather than trolling the suggestion.

    People hire naked dudes and chicks alike to get plated up with sushi I don’t see this being far removed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Overheal wrote: »
    Well you chose this link in particular and right in the OP and the majority of the comments is the clear belief it is blood, breast milk and semen. If you didn’t ascribe to that you certainly should say so, rather than trolling the suggestion.


    Many others (on a random image search on google), clarified it was molasses, as did I.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    and i thought this was about man utd & arsenal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,050 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    In Japan they call this sort of thing Nyotaimori. I don’t see the satanism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyotaimori


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    youtube! wrote: »
    Believe me after 2 minutes you will want to watch the rest

    Why not directly address the issue of the non existent basement that you were asked?

    No need for a link to a CT youtube video or anything, just a direct answer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Buddhas belly


    youtube! wrote: »
    Ok It is all explained very well in this video, but be prepared it has undeniable truths not just about Pizzagate but many other disturbing truths about the elite and their penchant for murdering and abusing children. It is long but it is well worth watching, I will say that the dutch Narrator has an awfully annoying voice and her love of Trump does nothing for me but if you can get past that and just pick out the parts that are frankly way too coincidental to be anything other that what it is then you will get a lot from it .


    thanks for the link to the vid. I've been following this global child trafficking business for a number of years now, since I saw a few talks by ted gunderson on the matter. This ties it all together very well. Just out of curiosity,does anyone know if mark zukerburgs tweet about little saint James was real or from a parody account?


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Why not directly address the issue of the non existent basement that you were asked?

    James Alefantis speaking about Comet Ping Pong in Metro Weekly April 16, 2015

    "we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in"

    http://web.archive.org/web/20161202160644/http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    youtube! wrote: »
    Look at the video . Look at the video . Look at the video.

    Absolutely not. I am happy to read a transcript but I work for a living and my time has value ( I appreciate that posting on boards argues against that).

    I do not get my information from videos. I am literate and I get it from print.

    I will read a transcript.
    I will not watch a video.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Nevermind cooking pizzas (could well be somehing in it, but very difficult to establish),

    What about Hilary/Podesta & Co at the voodo-esq 'spirit-cooking'.
    It was there in black n' white in emails of 2015.

    Sure maybe it's just a new way to fry pineapples bits to finish off their pizzas?

    Sicko Marina Abramović seems to googlebots #1 result for this stuff, linked to Podesta.
    But don't google any of her repulsive 'artwork' if you're after having a heavy pizza lunch.

    Who are your three favorite performance artists?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,050 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    James Alefantis speaking about Comet Ping Pong in Metro Weekly April 16, 2015

    "we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in"

    http://web.archive.org/web/20161202160644/http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/



    He mentions the canning but not the basement? Doesn't mention a harvest party.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Why hasn't Bill Wyman been dealt with? He should die in prison.


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Overheal wrote: »


    He mentions the canning but not the basement? Doesn't mention a harvest party.

    Its from an interview in a newspaper, not the tv show.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in.
    http://web.archive.org/web/20161202160644/http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/

    He also says they have two reaturants


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Absolutely not. I am happy to read a transcript but I work for a living and my time has value ( I appreciate that posting on boards argues against that).

    I do not get my information from videos. I am literate and I get it from print.

    I will read a transcript.
    I will not watch a video.

    Thats a strange answer, I take it you don't watch RTE news then? BBC? Primetime? documentaries? Tv?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Thats a strange answer, I take it you don't watch RTE news then? BBC? Primetime? documentaries? Tv?

    I don't watch any of these and I don't think that would be unusual in 2020.


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    MadYaker wrote: »
    I don't watch any of these and I don't think that would be unusual in 2020.

    The point is you don't get any information or news at all from visual media? I find that very hard to believe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Thats a strange answer, I take it you don't watch RTE news then? BBC? Primetime? documentaries? Tv?

    I don't watch much of that to be honest but I can't be expected to equate a random youtube video with RTE news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    The point is you don't get any information or news at all from visual media? I find that very hard to believe.

    Well now you've moved the goalposts. I don't get my news from any of the sources you previously listed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    I'm watching the video as we speak. The BH kids thing 12 to 18 minutes is obvious mental illness.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    I watched the video -- waste of time.
    Except that Bill Clinton was a friend of Epstein.
    But the Pizza Restaurant , No smoking sign, In and Out Burger, all obvious mental illness,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,050 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Its from an interview in a newspaper, not the tv show.

    And it’s about the show. The question he is answering. Even about the same thing he told the tv show, while on camera.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Overheal wrote: »
    And it’s about the show. The question he is answering. Even about the same thing he told the tv show, while on camera.

    They're discussing Comet Ping Pong, which is the restaurant in question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    They're discussing Comet Ping Pong, which is the restaurant in question.

    Thanks for the waste of time re: the video.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Thanks for the waste of time re: the video.

    Watch this video. A sizeable crowd of rich white men in the forest watching a child/human/sacrifice play. A giant owl and men in hoods walking around :pac:

    Bohemian grove.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Watch this video. A sizeable crowd of rich white men in the forest watching a child/human/sacrifice play. A giant owl and men in hoods walking around :pac:

    Bohemian grove.

    Here's a better documentary on the topic.
    It's better cause it's not from Alex Jones:


    Tldr: Alex Jones tries to inflitrate an eveil satanic cult.
    In reality it's just a boozey weekend get away for rich people were you can kinda just wander in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,050 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    They're discussing Comet Ping Pong, which is the restaurant in question.

    And specifically talking about something he shared with the crew about his canning etc. notice how the article claims to mention the basement and the video doesn’t. Both mention the tomatoes and the canning though.

    Every news outlet in the Press Corps frogmarched to comet pizza to verify whether it had a basement or not after the shooting. It doesn’t. It simply doesn’t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    I prefer it by it's more common name - Battle of the Buffet.

    lol that's what I always think when my GF talking crap about pizzagate. that united arsenal rivalry was great


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